A real world example: I can referee the same level game; in one game I can give 6 cautions and 1 red and in another game, I gave no cards. What is the difference? Both games were refereed on back to back weekends (so fatigue is not an issue). My interpretation and application would be about the same, but I have significantly different result in terms of behavior. The fact of the matter is it is the posters themselves that have to want change if you are going to see change. In the example above, the difference was the skill level of the players. There are many factors that can contribute, but you reduced it to a singular one with little or no regards to other factors. I have seen the threads in the "pit" and other places in D&D. Threads that have gone bad are numerous and more shockingly, not necessarily ToS violations.
Disclaimer: beware, ToS violating example ahead!
Moderation is the only thing we can directly affect? Wrong! You cannot affect moderation because this is not a democracy. Also, there is no free speech. But what everybody of us can affect is how and what we ourselves post. It's not like I am forced by some irresistible force of nature to post the example above. Every single member is responsible for what he is doing on this board and moderation acts as sort of a filter in case a user actively chooses to not abide by the rules. What you are conveniently neglecting is individual responsibility and accountability.
Concerning the manifesto, the debate forum rules existed since 04. They never said that the mudpit was supposed to be a place to fight dirty, in contrary. And in general concerning all your cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies, sorry I don't buy them.
With regards to fun and entertainment, we definitely have a different idea of what that is, but that's fine.
I find it amusing that "you staff" generalizations are thrown around whenever assertions fail. The only staff function I'm executing is one in Vault Staff and that has nothing to do with site policy or moderation.
Last edited by Aikanár; February 26, 2013 at 05:45 PM.
"I hate socialism" posts do not sound like actual responses to a "What's so bad about Socialism anyway?" question... in fact, many of them, can be labelled as disruptive posting.
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