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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    If we're going to get as detailed as having weapon descriptions and stats it might just be best to let individual players come up with their own unit list based on unit equipment
    That sounds overcomplicated.It will be a bit of a problem if everyone uses his own roster.And Trot, you forgot to send it to me.
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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    It won't be a problem, if a building gives say, 1000 spears, then the person can equip 1000 Spearmen

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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf. View Post
    It won't be a problem, if a building gives say, 1000 spears, then the person can equip 1000 Spearmen
    I was thinking about levies.If a player calls his levies, he receives a few companies of low-tier units, and some of his region's AOR.

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    Rhun

    Wain Workshop:Allows the recruitment of Wain units.Costs 5.000 Mirian

    Horse Tamer:+5% to Cavalry Attack. Costs 8.000 Mirian

    War Camp:+5% Decrease in Unit cost, +2 Field Strategist.Costs 12.000 Mirian

    Feasting Hall:+5% to morale,+1 Influence.Costs 8.000 Mirian

    Trade Camp:+2 to Trading.Costs 6.000 Mirian

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    Kingdom of Lothlorien

    Elven Fletcher:+5% Attack to Bowmen.Costs 5.000 Mirian

    Mallorn Tree:+2 to Farming.Costs 8.000 Mirian

    Forest Outpost:+1 to Siege Battles.Costs 4.000 Mirian

    Great Talan:+1 Management,2.000 extra levies in Sieges.Costs 10.000 Mirian

    Royal Talan:Allows the recruitment of ''Royal” units,+1 Influence.Costs 15.000 Mirian

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    Kingdom of Greenwood

    Sindar Barracks:Allows the recruitment of Sindar units.Costs 12.000 Mirian

    Memorial of Doriath:Allows the recruitment of Survivors of Menegroth, +1 Will.Costs 10.000 Mirian

    Cave System:+10 Morale Points in Sieges.Costs 5.000 Mirian

    Underground Halls:+2 Influence,+2.000 Mirian each week.Costs 6.000 Mirian

    King's Hall:Enables the recruitment of Oropher's Axemen,, Thranduil's Bowmen and Greenwood Kingsguard.Costs 8.000 Mirian

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    All buildings are finished except those for OotMM .If Trot sends their unit roster I'll work on them too.I will now work on the detail for the faction rosters.Hopefully it shan't take too much time.After that, we are good to go.

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    Generic Buildings

    Irrigation:+60% to Farming production.Costs 30.000 Mirian

    Training Camp:2.000 extra levies.Costs 5.000 Mirian

    Garrison Quarters:4.000 extra levies.Costs 10.000 Mirian

    Great Shipwright:Enables the Recruitment of High-Tier Ships.Costs 16.000 Mirian

    Siege Works:Enables the Recruitment of Siege Machines.Costs 10.000 Mirian

    Great Armoury:+5% Defense to units.Costs 12.000 Mirian

    Mines:Enable Mining for Minerals and Gems.Cost 10.000 Mirian

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    Since I want to get this proposal over with as soon as possible, I'll upload some more stuff.

    ''Special Powers" for various factions.

    War of Vengeance:If an enemy crosses the line, with a particularly great insult to the Dwarves (If it is great enough will be determined by a Moderator), the King of the Longbeards calls all Dwarves for vengeance against that enemy.The one who calls a War of Vengeance must pay 60.000 Mirian for it to take effect, and will receive units from the other Dwarven Houses.They will leave his army once vengeance is taken.

    Darkening of the Sky:Sauron can use this to darken the Sky during day, so his Trolls don't turn to stone.Orcs also receive a 5% bonus (Which is also valid during Night Battles).The Sauron player must pay 20.000 Mirian per use.

    Would you like to see more special faction powers?

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    Realm in Exile

    Numenorean Spear Levy:Spear,Kite Shield.Costs 500 Mirian.5 units are received when a player calls his levies.Unit size:200

    Numenorean Sword Levy:Longsword,Round Shield.Costs 550 Mirian.2 units are received when a player calls his levies.Unit size:190

    Numenorean Pike Levy: Pike.Costs 450 Mirian.3 units are received when a player calls his levies.Unit size:200

    Numenorean Men-at-Arms: (+5% Attack)Longsword,Spear,Kite Shield and Chainmail(+5%Defense).Costs 600 Mirian.Unit size: 180

    Numenorean Steelbowmen:Longsword,Steelbow and Chainmail(+5%Defense).Costs 620 Mirian.Unit size:180

    Native Light Cavalry:Longsword,Bow.Costs 650 Mirian.Unit size:100

    Numenorean Pikemen: (+4% Attack)Pike,Longsword and Chainmail(+5%Defense).Costs 600 Mirian.Unit size: 200

    Numenorean Knights: (+8 Attack).Longsword,,Kite Shield and Heavy Chainmail(+8%Defense)Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale points).Costs 750 Mirian.Unit size: 150

    Citadel Guard: (+9% Attack).Spear,Longsword,,Kite Shield and Heavy Chainmail(+8%Defense)Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale points).Costs 850 Mirian.Unit size: 145

    AOR

    Ithil Guard: (Only able to be recruited by Isildur and/or his sons, and there can only be 4 units in an army.+12% Attack)(+5 Attack).Longsword,,Kite Shield and Heavy Full Chainmail(+12%Defense)Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale points).Costs 2.000 Mirian.Unit size: 200

    Guards of the Dome of Stars: (Only able to be recruited by Anarion and/or his son, and there can only be 4 units in an army.+12% Attack)(+5 Attack).Axe and Heavy Full Chainmail(+12%Defense)Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale points).Costs 2.000 Mirian.Unit size: 200

    Palantiri Guardians: (Only able to be recruited by the Lord of a region with a Palantir. and there can only be 3 units in an army.+11 Attack)Spears, Greatswords and Heavy Full Chainmail(+12%Defense)Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale points).Costs 1.100 Mirian.Unit size: 180

    Knights of Belfalas: (+10% Attack)Greatswords,Heavy Full Chainmail(+12% Defense)Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale points).Cost 1.150 Mirian.Unit size:200

    Pelargir Marines(+4% Attack) Longswords, Round Shields,Javelins and Chainmail (+5% Defense)+5% Attack and Defense in Naval Battles.Cost 1.000 Mirian.Unit size:165

    Tharbad Bridge Wardens: (+6% Attack)Spears, Round Shields, Heavy Chainmail(+8% Defense).Cost 1.050 Mirian.Unit size:140

    Pikemen of Angrenost: (+6% Attack)Pikes, Longswords, Heavy Chainmail(+5% Defense).Cost 1.150 Mirian.Unit size:145

    Steelbowmen of Fornost: (+3% Attack) Steelbows,Round Shields,Longswords and Heavy Chainmail(+5% Defense).Cost 1.500 Mirian.Unit size:120

    Knights of Annuminas:{Only Three companies in the whole faction allowed.+12% Attack) Greatswords, Heavy Full Chainmail(+12% Defense).Cost 2.500 Mirian.Unit size:200

    I should note that Numenorean ''Knights” at this point are not horsemen, but professional warrior nobles.
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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    AOR Rules

    Some regions in the game have AOR units.They can be recruited only by the Lord of that region, and if the Lord of their region raises levies, he receives 2 units of them in addition to the standard ones.

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    Kingdom of the Noldor



    Eldar Swordsmen:Longswords,Round Shields,Chainmail(+5% Defense).Cost 800 Mirian.Unit size:180.The player receives 4 units when raising levies.


    Eldar Horse archers: (+1% Attack) Longswords, Bows and Chainmail(+5% Defense).Cost 900 Mirian.Unit size:125


    Bowmen of Lindon: (+6% Attack) Longbows,Longswords and Scale Armour (+6 Defense).Cost 1.000 Mirian.Unit size:160


    Spearmen of Lindon: (+2% Attack)Spears,Longswords,Kite Shields and Scale Armour(+6% Defense).Cost 950 Mirian.Unit size:160.The player receives 3 units when raising levies


    Eldar Lancers: (+5% Attack)Lances,Longswords,Kite Shields and Heavy Chainmail(+8% Defense).Costs 1.100 Mirian.Unit size: 120


    Noldor Swordsmen: (+5% Attack) Longswords,Kite Shields and Lamellar Armour (+10% Defense), Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale).Cost 1.200 Mirian.Unit size: 120


    Gwaith-I-Mirdain: (+6% Attack) Hammers and Heavy Full Chainmail (+12% Defense).Cost 1.300 Mirian.Unit size: 100


    Guards of the House of Fingolfin: (+12% Attack, only two units available at a time) Longswords,Tower Shields and Heavy Full Chainmail (+12% Defense), Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale).Cost 2.000.Unit size:100


    Kinslayers: (+12% Attack, only two units available at a time) Greatswords and Heavy Full Chainmail (+12% Defense), Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale).Cost 2.000.Unit size:80


    Spearguard of Gil Galad: (+12% Attack, only two units available at a time) Spears,Kite Shields and Heavy Full Chainmail (+12% Defense), Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale).Cost 2.000.Unit size:110


    AOR


    Horsemen of Harlond: (+5% Attack) Longswords, Longbows and Scale Armour(+6% Defense).Cost 1.100 Mirian.Unit size:120


    Guards of Elostirion: (+6% Attack) Pikes,Javelins and Lamellar Armour (+10% Defense).Cost 1.200 Mirian.Unit size: 120


    Lancers of Imladris: (+7% Attack)Lances,Longswords,Kite Shields and Lamellar Armour(+10% Defense).Cost 1.500 Mirian.Unit size: 115


    Mariners of the Grey Havens: (+6% Attack,+5% Attack and Defense at Naval Battles) Axes,Round Shields and Scale Mail (+6% Defense).Cost 1.300 Mirian.Unit size:150
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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    Sorry for not doing as much work as usual, but I have a lot of tests this week.If everything goes well, this will be ready to go up at March.

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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    Don't know if this has been mentioned and not edited due to difficulties there or overlooked but.....

    As Head of State starting with 500,000 I can build every single building in Mordor at the start of the game for 50,000 (or 93,000 with all generic buildings too) and equip anyone I please with top-tier equipment for a few thousand.

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    I would like to bring that into a wider general concern of mine:
    It appears to me that a lot of the numerical work here doesn't exactly match up - every section looks completely independent of the other sections, and use different number scales.
    In other words, has any balance testing been done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poach View Post
    Don't know if this has been mentioned and not edited due to difficulties there or overlooked but.....

    As Head of State starting with 500,000 I can build every single building in Mordor at the start of the game for 50,000 (or 93,000 with all generic buildings too) and equip anyone I please with top-tier equipment for a few thousand.
    So I should lower numbers?

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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bastard Feudalism View Post
    I would like to bring that into a wider general concern of mine:
    It appears to me that a lot of the numerical work here doesn't exactly match up - every section looks completely independent of the other sections, and use different number scales.
    In other words, has any balance testing been done?
    If you are talking about the armour, characters and units use two sets of armour which are mutually exclusive.Morale has always been taken into account, but as for weapons and racial bonuses, have you noticed why exactly do the Noldor have a lower Attack than some Numenoreans? It's because the Noldor units receive a +5% bonus in Field Battles.

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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    My comment was that buildings and armour are really cheap when compared to starting money and incomes.

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    Default Re: Proposal: War of the Last Alliance (Feedback Needed)

    It could be resolved by halving the starting money.I could add something which obligates players to maintain buildings.

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    Kingdom of Greenwood


    Nandorin Archers: Bows,Longswords.Cost 400 Mirian.Unit size:200.The player receives 3 units when raising levies


    Nandor Swordsmen:Longswords,Javelins,Round Shields.Cost 400 Mirian.Unit size:200.he player receives 3 units when raising levies


    Greenwood Spearmen: (+2% Attack)Spears,Round Shields.Cost 600 Mirian.Unit size:200.The player receives 3 units when raising levies


    Greenwood Hunters: (+5% Attack in Woods) Longbows.Cost 650 Mirian.Unit size:180


    Axemen of the Forest: (+2% Attack) Axes,Round Shields.Cost 700 Mirian.Unit size:150


    Guardians of the Caves: (+3% Attack)Spears,Towers Shields,Chaimail (+5% Defense).Cost 900 Mirian.Unit size:160


    Sindar Axemen: (+8% Attack) Axes,Heavy Chainmail (+8% Defense).Cost 950 Mirian.Unit size:120


    Sindar Marksmen: (+8% Attack) Longbows,Heavy Chainmail (+8% Defense).Cost 950 Mirian.Unit size:120


    Survivors of Menegroth: (+10% Attack) Axes,Towers Shields,Heavy Chainmail (+8% Defense) Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale).Cost 1.150 Mirian.Unit size: 100


    Marksmen of Thranduil: (Only three units available at a time,+11% Attack) Longbows, Longswords,Lamellar Armour (+10% Defense) Fearsome Unit (-5 Morale).Cost 1.400 Mirian.Unit size: 115


    Grenwood Kingsguard: (Only three units available at a time,+11% Attack) Spears,Tower Shields,Lamellar Armour (+10% Defense) Fearsome unit (5 Morale).Cost 1.500 Mirian.Unit size:110

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