Europa Universalis EU/US Multiplayer

[Ynen]

Short summary of the situation:
-Rickie can't host
-Rickie will drop halfway the session
-Pat isn't playing

So if we want to play we need a hamachi host and notpoach to sub pat.

[IZob]

Saddens me to do this, but I am resigning from this game.

Host is no longer reliable and we have no backup host.
Gotten the impression some people don't even want to play.
Game starts at a highly inconvenient time for me, I have no patience for mistakes like this.
Second time in a row.

[Ynen]

For some reason I also get this feeling some people don't even want to try anything else but rickie as host. Apple said he could host with hamachi but no one even wanted to try.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

Rickie will be back in uni by next session, he is a reliable host once that happens.

[High Chunker Greens]

Austria marches on happily.

[IZob]

For some reason I also get this feeling some people don't even want to try anything else but rickie as host. Apple said he could host with hamachi but no one even wanted to try.

As Poach left Steam chat without saying anything, Dan left a bit later and Rickie didn't reply to me, I decided to leave as well (I had lots of encouragement).

Apple must have made the offer later on, quite unfortunate.



Since Switzerland is the weakest/landlocked player nation in the game, Dan I want you to take over Burgundy first; But that's your choice. Send me a message if you want to know the deals/plans Burgundy had.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

I only left like half an hour after you joined the chat izob?

I've invested too much time in Switzerland to just leave it be, but I'll gladly take Burgundian lands

[Border Patrol]

I may have a replacement Burgundy.

[IZob]

I only left like half an hour after you joined the chat izob?

I've invested too much time in Switzerland to just leave it be, but I'll gladly take Burgundian lands

Maybe it was someone else, I'm sure I did see someone leave.

You are either taking Burgundy or not. I'm not about to let the Kingdom be "eaten up" like common AI.

I may have a replacement Burgundy.

Give me some contact details please.

If we dont find a new perm for Burgundy ... I might instead stay with them.

[Ynen]

But Austria wants to inherit all that precious land!

[IZob]

Didn't you hear? He is actually gona form the HRE and annex TO/Prussia.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

Yes, the TO/Prussia that ISN'T in the HRE..
You have to be a HRE state and accept the reform that vassalises all HRE states to be annexed.

[IZob]

Yes. By then Burgundy would have left the Empire Doesnt the hre get cores on all hre provinces, even if said provinces are controlled by a non-hre nations (aka TO )?

[Poach]

I did actually talk in that chat, just maybe not after you'd joined, IZob. I gave my opinions, said the relevant things, and went back to the forums.

Mighty Spain will happily collaborate with Mighty Austria and Up-And-Coming Prussia to divide Burgundy up if IZob is indeed dropping.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

Yes. By then Burgundy would have left the Empire Doesnt the hre get cores on all hre provinces, even if said provinces are controlled by a non-hre nations (aka TO )?

No, it gets cores on all HRE provinces of countries bordering it. that means no cores on the TO.

Poach, i will also be getting a slice, Austria allowed it to our nation

[Cryers-]

iZob should stay, at least for another session. Now that Rickie is back at college he should be able to host and everything will return to normality!

Italy will be formed next week, or else.

[IZob]

No, it gets cores on all HRE provinces of countries bordering it. that means no cores on the TO.

Poach, i will also be getting a slice, Austria allowed it to our nation

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Renovatio_Imperii
Checkmate, though I'm pretty sure the HRE still gets cores on HRE provinces.

Oh and who else is in the HRE? Hmmm maybe ... SWITZERLAND

I have nothing against Green forming the HRE, or Germany btw. Its just fun to poke at Dan's ignorance

[Border Patrol]

Effects

• -50 Imperial influence
• All countries with their capital in the HRE, except the Emperor, get the event Renovatio Imperii Romanorum, where they can choose between accepting to be annexed, or declaring war on the Empire.

Greens can allow them their independence it seems.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Renovatio_Imperii
Checkmate, though I'm pretty sure the HRE still gets cores on HRE provinces.

Oh and who else is in the HRE? Hmmm maybe ... SWITZERLAND

I have nothing against Green forming the HRE, or Germany btw. Its just fun to poke at Dan's ignorance

..What? that's EXACTLY what I said! he inherits all countries IN the HRE, but will only get cores on the HRE countries that border him. You can't call someone ignorant after you repeat what he said, it just doesn't work that way. It's you who is being ignorant if you had to go check the wiki to come to that conclusion.
Prussia's capital is not a HRE province, thus it doesn't get asked about passing reforms in HRE, thus it won't be asked to be vassalised, thus it won't be annexed. And since it can just remove provinces from HRE, as most of it's provinces are, it won't be cored either.
I can simply say no to the vassalisation reform and that removes me from HRE and I won't be annexed either.

EDIT: here's the damn decision if you still don't believe me:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

vote_on_renovatio = { potential = {
is_emperor = yes
NOT = { has_global_flag = Renovatio }
}
allow = {
has_global_flag = Privileges_Revoked
imperial_influence = 50
war = no
OR = {
NOT = { has_global_flag = Voting }
had_global_flag = {
flag = Voting
days = 30
}
}
}
effect = {
set_global_flag = Voting
add_imperial_influence = -50
any_country = {
limit = {
capital_scope = { hre = yes }
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
country_event = 9071
}
possible_province_event = 9072
}
ai_will_do = {
factor = 1
}
}

In other words you have to have your capital in HRE to get the annexation event.
And the core event which is triggered:

major = yes is_triggered_only = yes

option = {
name = "EVTOPTA9073"
change_tag = HRE
culture_group_union = germanic
add_country_modifier = {
name = "rome_reborn"
duration = -1
}
any_province = {
limit = {
hre = yes
OR = {
owned_by = THIS
owner = { neighbour = THIS }
}
}
add_core = emperor
}
any_country = {
limit = {
hre = yes
is_emperor = no
num_of_cities = 1
}
country_event = 9074
}
dismantle_hre = yes
}

In other words you have to either own or neighbour the country that owns the province to get a core there AND it has to be in the HRE.

[IZob]

Ok Dan calm down, you right.