Guardiola in Bayern for 3 years

[Garbarsardar]

You know what? Russian oligarchs are not all that anymore. Pep Guardiola, the most coveted man in football, was today announced as the coach of Bayern Munich, after snubbing Chelsea, the other finalist of last years Champions League.

More than half of Germany hates Bayern so I guess he will feel at home after Barcelona. More seriously, he got a super deal from Bayern's sponsor Adidas and he also seems to appreciate the mentality of the club (academy, young players and everything).

Next stop? If Pep insists that half the nation should hate his team, well, Manchester United would be my guess, provided that Fergie descends from the throne.

Jokes aside, he's a brilliant coach and I think he'll get one or two European Cups with Bayern...

[Petrucci]

WTf! I just checked 10 internet sites in order to get confirmations. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK still can't believe he chose Germans, not even Germans , Bavarians!
P.S. I'm CHELSEA fan!

[Søren]

Very good move for him IMO, didn't really see this coming, but it's the ideal next step.

[Mausolos of Caria]

not even Germans , Bavarians!

Well said

Indeed a big deal and success for Bayern. I suppose Uli Hoeneß worked his magic again.

[Cold_Mac]

Well said

Indeed a big deal and success for Bayern. I suppose Uli Hoeneß worked his magic again.

It has been pretty obvious since late november when there where reports about him learning basic german (c'mon, who does this voluntarily?) during his sabbatical year in New York & other places and that there were talks between Rummenigge and Guardiola.

There are hardly many pish Bayern-rumours that does not suffocate within days without substance.

Not that der Kicker or other magazines would have less boulevardic antics or more quality, guess thats down how well connected & utterly professionell the club operates, both internally & externally. And you know how much I detest them.
Named reports about him, wanting to manage a club in the EPL, are proven to be nothing but shots in the fog.
Bayern is - in principle - a better club to run for him compared to, lets say, Chelsea.

We don't have to dig deep and go into football culture or the like.
Firstly, Chelsea needs a major squad overhaul (for whom Rafa is seemingly the dummy), a wage-cut and the whole process of Pep's indoctrination. Not to speak of getting the right players.
Secondly, its a bedlam place. Fans & owners with very low levels of patience, low job security and a press environment that makes the Tribunal de la Inquisición appear merciful.

Bayern has no such problems and is probably the most composed environment a world-class coach could operate on nowadays.

With the given structure & player material at Bayern, they could be back to actually winning trophies again. Sad day for all those Gunners & Scousers eh?

[Petrucci]

I would like to know more details about his contract. Because I heard rumor Abramovich planed to give him 4 y contract, 20 millions per session + another 20 for wining tittle,cup or champion league.

[grinder]

Well, I guess it is safe to say he will not earn nearly as much in Munich, as officials have denied the 17.5 millions the Bild came up with.

Anyway, Hoeneß himself has hinted that they pretty much will sack Heynckes (who is said to be a personal friend of his), despite his (so far) very impressive season, to make room for Guardiola. Which has a bit of a nasty aftertaste, if it really is the case.
So far people thought Heynckes would end his job at Bayern willingly, and wrap up his long career at the moment of his choice (and quite possibly a high note), but seems it is not so.

Now don't get me wrong. I still think it is awesome that a coach of Guardiola's caliber comes to the Bundesliga, and I am interested what he does with Bayern, but in my book Heynckes recent success, simply does not warrant a replacement.
At this point of the season, there is not much room for improvement, and the last star coach clashed with the Bayern management constantly.

[Petrucci]

Coaches need time to get familiar with the club and players, that may be the reason why Pep came this winter, instead at the end of the session. I've just checked Bundesliga ranking, looks like Borussia won't make it triple

[Pinarius]

Anything that annoys EPL-fans is okay for me.

So far people thought Heynckes would end his job at Bayern willingly, and wrap up his long career at the moment of his choice (and quite possibly a high note), but seems it is not so.

pft, wishful thinking.

[grinder]

Coaches need time to get familiar with the club and players, that may be the reason why Pep came this winter, instead at the end of the session. I've just checked Bundesliga ranking, looks like Borussia won't make it triple

I think he does not come in winter, actually, but for next season.
And no, in all likelihood Dortmund will not make it a hattrick. Too many blunders against weak teams this season, and Bayern was just really good. No big talk, just action (and quite a bit of money thrown at the transfer market). Shows how frustrated they were with the past two seasons.
Anyway, the only one who can defeat Bayern now, is themselves.
And I am not saying there is a big chance for that to happen, but creating a possibly tense situation is perhaps not the wisest thing if you want to keep team spirit in working-condition.

@ Pinarius I think you misunderstood me. I do not think it is unlikely Bayern will win 1, 2 or even 3 titles this season. What I meant by saying "seems it is not so", was Heynckes willingness to quit.
If you doubt that just read what Hoeneß said.
Even if everything is dandy, he made it sound like there might be trouble with phrases like "there is no reason to grieve".

[grinder]

delete please.

[nemgod]

Anything that annoys EPL-fans is okay for me.

Heh doesn't annoy most EPL games. Most of us are laughing at Chelsea now thinking how many "transitional" managers they will go through till Peps contract is up.

[Petrucci]

I still think Mourinho is the best coach in the world, and I would like to see him again in Chelsea. @nemog EPL fan can't be annoyed if I post them something on Chinese

[Facupay]

I think Guardiola is superb but he still has to prove himself outside of Barcelona, I mean, I don't want to take credit from him but I think most coaches in the world can win with Barcelona and the near god-mode players it has. You can see that with Vilanova, he's a guy who's been years on the institution, granted, but he's ELEVEN POINTS over Atlético and it's his very first season.

Let's see how Guardiola does with Bayern, but for now I'll keep Mou as my number one.

[grinder]

Thing is, Bayern are also 9 points ahead of the closest competitor, after halftime. As I said, there is not really all that much room for improvement there.
And honestly, I don't know Guardiola as a person very well, but if he does not like the club management to intervene with his business, he will surely clash with Hoeneß sooner or later.

[Adar]

I think Guardiola is superb but he still has to prove himself outside of Barcelona, I mean, I don't want to take credit from him but I think most coaches in the world can win with Barcelona and the near god-mode players it has. You can see that with Vilanova, he's a guy who's been years on the institution, granted, but he's ELEVEN POINTS over Atlético and it's his very first season.

Let's see how Guardiola does with Bayern, but for now I'll keep Mou as my number one.

But it was Guardiola who created the team that makes them god-mode players. When he took over the teams he had stars like Ronaldinho, Eto’o och Deco.

[Cold_Mac]

I think he does not come in winter, actually, but for next season.
And no, in all likelihood Dortmund will not make it a hattrick. Too many blunders against weak teams this season, and Bayern was just really good. No big talk, just action (and quite a bit of money thrown at the transfer market). Shows how frustrated they were with the past two seasons.
Anyway, the only one who can defeat Bayern now, is themselves.
And I am not saying there is a big chance for that to happen, but creating a possibly tense situation is perhaps not the wisest thing if you want to keep team spirit in working-condition.

@ Pinarius I think you misunderstood me. I do not think it is unlikely Bayern will win 1, 2 or even 3 titles this season. What I meant by saying "seems it is not so", was Heynckes willingness to quit.
If you doubt that just read what Hoeneß said.
Even if everything is dandy, he made it sound like there might be trouble with phrases like "there is no reason to grieve".

Bayern failed to win the ultimate goal of Hoeness reign - to win the CL at the Allianz-Arena.
This foremost, as well as failing to get any title that season, sealed the end for Heynckes.

Nothing, ever, not even his Weißwürste, gets in the way of Hoeness determination. He crouched into the wild after the air crash, nearly fatally wounded, with his legs temporary paralyzed. What does that friendship matter in his great-scaled consequentialistic ambition? He aint a sunny-boy.
You can't argue that he is not competent enough as he has proven, over 30 years, to be a most capable chairman/managing director/godfather/dictator...whatever you call it.

Besides the fact that he was/is involved with choosing his successor, Heynckes failed at numerous clubs, said himself that he had retired, if it would not be for Hoeness. His figure is one of footballs past, not of footballs future. Guardiola seemingly is.

You are right, hate to say it but we should not underestimate the effects.
If Guardiola does his job as half as good as he made Barcelonas team, with the greatest club sides - Barcelona & Real Madrid - facing economically troubled times with all italian sides and add to that the lack of quality/cohesion among all EPL-clubs - and you have a recipe to get back to the domination of the 70's. No eastern european club has so far successfully attacked the top numbers of the CL despite their spending capabilities.

The monetary resources of Bayern are immense, with zero debt. Hoeness was never going to let Heynckes built a team.

Guess its up to Celtic to stop them!

[Pinarius]

Nothing, ever, not even his Weißwürste, gets in the way of Hoeness determination

Nürnberger Rostbratwürste

[Cold_Mac]

Nürnberger Rostbratwürste

Taste better as well. Still no patch on the Thüringer Bratwürst