DHRR v0.9 Previews and Features

**HannibalExMachina** · August 04, 2010, 03:56 PM

well, you cant teach old dogs new tricks

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**konny** · August 05, 2010, 04:16 AM

Don't you have other things to do? In this case I have a long to-do list for you to go through

**Markgraf von Schellenberg** · August 05, 2010, 04:39 PM

sorry, sir. back to work, sir

**Laser101** · August 06, 2010, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by konny

Don't you have other things to do? In this case I have a long to-do list for you to go through

I thought flogging people was Hannibal's job?

**HannibalExMachina** · August 06, 2010, 09:38 AM

too busy atm

**Laser101** · August 06, 2010, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by HannibalExMachina

too busy atm

That's no excuse! The team need their floggings if dHRR is to continue!

**The Noble Lord** · August 12, 2010, 06:22 AM

Nice work!

**Laser101** · August 13, 2010, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by Colos1987

I suppose there will be some sort of a Culture system like in Britannia Expansion?

There are three problems with a culture system implemented like the vanilla religion system. The first is that cultural change usually occurs very slowly; far slower than the rate of religious conversion in M2TW. The second is that nationalism as we know it did not exist in dHRR's timeframe; people usually identified themselves by personal allegiance rather than ethnicity. The third is that there is a hardcoded religion limit, and even with the new map you'd need at least 8 cultures:
-Celtic (Gaelic/Brythonic)
-Nordic/Anglo-Saxon
-(Northern) French
-Occitan/Catalan
-Germanic
-Italian
-Slavic
-Semetic

**konny** · August 13, 2010, 11:12 AM

No, we will more use that as "population" simulating a colonization/migration of your own people. But the process will be terribly slow and mostly depend on neighbouring regions and faction builder.

**DaVinci** · August 16, 2010, 10:59 PM

Your upcoming mod-release attracts me to get into M2-Kgdms again, a sure download some day

...although i would prefer a HRE focused mod on about 880 to around 1050 AD, in example to reflect the Otto Dei gratia rex Francorum et Langobardorum and Otto magnus Dei gratia imperator augustus periods.

P.S. Couldn't wait, have just dl'ed 0.7 and 0.8a. Will give it soon a go.

**Markgraf von Schellenberg** · August 17, 2010, 09:46 PM

that would be a very interesting time period. perhaps in the future...

(200th post!)

**DaVinci** · August 18, 2010, 05:46 PM

Excellent stuff, HRR team

I was exactly wondering about the Italy reflection in 0.7/0.8a (just played into the last released version with Swabia), now i see you are covering it with 0.9 in a exceptionel way, very

Can't wait to play 0.9.

**DaVinci** · August 18, 2010, 05:54 PM

Wise step to get rid of the vanilla pope, and you created a very good replacement.

**Kjertesvein** · August 19, 2010, 06:08 PM

Interesting. I wounder how the AI will react to this.

~Wille

**konny** · August 24, 2010, 05:46 AM

I am pretty confident that this will seriously improve AI preformance, because it has no idea how to avoid excommunications and wastes a lot of ressources on monster armies going on cursades and being stuck far away from its homelands.

**DaVinci** · August 24, 2010, 01:33 PM

Right.

**Laser101** · August 25, 2010, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by konny

No, we will more use that as "population" simulating a colonization/migration of your own people. But the process will be terribly slow and mostly depend on neighbouring regions and faction builder.

Did this actually occur anywhere on the map during dHRR's timeframe? (Just out of interest.)

**konny** · August 25, 2010, 10:02 AM

Most notably SE-Elbia, that is the lands that did not participate in the Obotrite uprising a century before. Later in our timeframe (late 12th Century) a considerbale migration of Germans in the newly conquered northern parts of East-Elbia, i.e. the Obotrite starting provinces, took place. A further movement, even though already somewhat outside our timeframe, was the colonization of the lands across the Neisse (Pommernia and Prussia).

Others include, somewhat to a lesser degree, the movement of French-Norman nobility to England, and the movement of them and English to Wales and Ireland. Ireland, and also parts of Scotland, had also been targeted by Norse settlers for centuries - a movement that did not halt after the Viking periode was over.

Even though not a migration of population but an adoption of culture (what has the same effect for us) would be the Anglization of southern Scotland, the eastern Lowlands.

So yes, there was a considerable movement of people. In many cases not as much as to change the entire population set up, but enough to change the local population in a way that would effect recruitment of units; what would be the major effect in game.