Connections between England and Westeros

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

I think you're confusing them with Churches.

[Mount Suribachi]

Well, with all the hoopla over the discovery of Richard III's body, there's been lots about the War of the Roses on TV. The servant who allegedly killed the boys in the tower was a Tyrell, the treacherous lord who switched sides halfway through the Battle of Bosworth was none other than......Lord Bolton! Make of that what you will

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

Well, with all the hoopla over the discovery of Richard III's body, there's been lots about the War of the Roses on TV. The servant who allegedly killed the boys in the tower was a Tyrell, the treacherous lord who switched sides halfway through the Battle of Bosworth was none other than......Lord Bolton! Make of that what you will

And Lord Stanley Bolton went from the Yorks/Starks to the Lancasters/Lannisters, and changed the course of the battle.

[Mount Suribachi]

Then I realised Richard III was a cross between Stannis and Tyrion. Deformed man with strong sense of justice who was always the loyal younger brother declares his elder brothers children illegitimate and seizes throne.

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

Then I realised Richard III was a cross between Stannis and Tyrion. Deformed man with strong sense of justice who was always the loyal younger brother declares his elder brothers children illegitimate and seizes throne.

We only get the deformed parts from Shakespeare.

[Mount Suribachi]

No, they've found him, and he really did have a bent spine and undersized arms

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21063882

Don't know if this is viewable outside the UK, but it was on last night and was very interesting showing the story of how they found and identified him. Only problem is its presented by one of the actors from Horrible Histories - I kept expecting him to break out into a verse of Stupid Deaths at the most inapropriate moment

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/r...e-car-park/4od

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

No, they've found him, and he really did have a bent spine and undersized arms

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21063882

Don't know if this is viewable outside the UK, but it was on last night and was very interesting showing the story of how they found and identified him. Only problem is its presented by one of the actors from Horrible Histories - I kept expecting him to break out into a verse of Stupid Deaths at the most inapropriate moment

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/r...e-car-park/4od

Well, the announcement in Greece lasted about.. 2 minutes. And possibly even less.

[Mount Suribachi]

Surprised it even got that much - I doubt UK news would feature an article on the body of a Greek king from 500 years ago being found

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

Surprised it even got that much - I doubt UK news would feature an article on the body of a Greek king from 500 years ago being found

We didn't have Kings then, so that's why there might have been no bodies found.

[Ciciro]

I thought Westeros was Europe.

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[Mikail Mengsk]

uhm, no.

[Heart of Madness]

uhm, no.

Seconded, I think that was a fail, Ser Cuddlesthecat.

[Starbuck123]

Sorry if anyone hasn't mentioned this already, but the story of the Reynes of Castamere is inspired by the Baron's War in England. Simon de Monfort (The Lord of Castamere) led a rebellion to overthrow the weak King Henry III ( Tytos Lannister.) The Kings son Prince Edward and the later King Edward I ( Tywin Lannister) crushed the rebellion at the Battle of Evesham.

[Starbuck123]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Barons%27_War Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_d...l_of_Leicester Simon De Monfort aka Lord Reyne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I_of_England Edward I aka Tywin Lannister

[Heart of Madness]

I see many of you saying that the Yorkists represent the Starks and that the Lancasters represent the Lannisters, but the only similarity I've drawn between them is the colors.

I think:
House of York = House Baratheon
House of Lancaster = House Targaryen

[Mount Suribachi]

Sorry if anyone hasn't mentioned this already, but the story of the Reynes of Castamere is inspired by the Baron's War in England. Simon de Monfort (The Lord of Castamere) led a rebellion to overthrow the weak King Henry III ( Tytos Lannister.) The Kings son Prince Edward and the later King Edward I ( Tywin Lannister) crushed the rebellion at the Battle of Evesham.

You know what, now you mention it, Tywin is a westerosi Longshanks isn't he? Scots may disagree but Edward I was a kick-ass king

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

You know what, now you mention it, Tywin is a westerosi Longshanks isn't he? Scots may disagree but Edward I was a kick-ass king

Very much so. Brutal, a complete Douche to his son (Edward the II,though he was right to be harsh, considering how things ended up), but still awesome.

[Fürst Frederic]

I see many of you saying that the Yorkists represent the Starks and that the Lancasters represent the Lannisters, but the only similarity I've drawn between them is the colors.

I think:
House of York = House Baratheon
House of Lancaster = House Targaryen

I think so as well. But the real question is, who is Henry Tudor?

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

I think so as well. But the real question is, who is Henry Tudor?

Robert Baratheon? He has the blood of both and after he wins the war he uses it to claim the throne legally.

[Heart of Madness]

I think so as well. But the real question is, who is Henry Tudor?

Heck no it's not Robert. Robert is supposed to be our Edward IV. Feanaro, I suggest you briefly Wikipedia The Wars of the Roses to understand how they played out. Don't worry, I had to do the same. :p

It's between our two Targaryen claimants. The story sets it up to be Dany, but Aegon landing in the Stormlands (what I picture as Wales) is so far very similar to the Bosworth campaign. The only problem is that our Richard III character (Stannis) is currently absent from Southron politics.