Page 6 of 8 FirstFirst 12345678 LastLast
Results 101 to 120 of 155

Thread: Global warming is not that bad

  1. #101
    Border Patrol's Avatar Protector Domesticus
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Irvine, California
    Posts
    4,286

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Humans are part of nature, therefore everything we do is natural. If the ocean changes due to human action this is natural. Nihilism? Read again.
    Proud Nerdimus Maximus of the Trench Coat Mafia.

  2. #102

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Border Patrol View Post
    Humans are part of nature, therefore everything we do is natural. If the ocean changes due to human action this is natural. Nihilism? Read again.
    It actually isn't considered natural. Actions by humans are considered natural if we are unaware of what impacts we are having and artificial if we are aware of what we are manipulating (at least that is how it was discussed in environmental science). Regardless of that, he is implying that natural means it doesn't matter or isn't bad for us or can't be avoided. All of that is stupid and nihilistic. Like, why even build dykes to stop something natural in that case...
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  3. #103

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    The point is, nuclear power is extremely safe. There are 440 commercial reactors running around the clock. There are 250 government reactors and 180 military reactors.

    I live near a nuclear plant.
    So congratulations to your courage. I wouldn't ever live closer to a nuclear plant than 5-12.5 mi / 8-20 km (depends on the size of the reactors; without counting some smallest scientific reactors).

  4. #104
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by NRohirrim View Post
    So congratulations to your courage. I wouldn't ever live closer to a nuclear plant than 5-12.5 mi / 8-20 km (depends on the size of the reactors; without counting some smallest scientific reactors).
    I'm like halfway between the site and the evacuation line. Worst case scenario it cooks off, I don't evacuate, and I go sterile. Oh no... I don't have to wear condoms now.

    It's a silly thing to be afraid of.

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Ah, so you are a nihilist. Why are you on forums debating then? There isn't any point to try to convince anyone of anything, it is all natural, right? So please, by all means, just leave.
    I'm not nihilist. I'm a series of actions and reactions. If the human world is preserved good. If not, a shame. But whatever happens was bound to happen. I'm deterministic atheist/deist. It's a closed system. There's no miracles. Our splitting the atom or any other major human action was predicated on a long series of events we have no control of. In practice I'm going to try to do the smart thing, but I'm not omniscient or omnipotent. I'm not in control of human events.

    I'm just going to sit around and watch "The League" and try to decide if I'm more like Ruxin or Pete. I'm feeling Pete, but I respect how evil Ruxin is.
    Last edited by Col. Tartleton; January 04, 2013 at 05:39 AM.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  5. #105

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    I'm not nihilist. I'm a series of actions and reactions. If the human world is preserved good. If not, a shame. But whatever happens was bound to happen. I'm deterministic atheist/deist. It's a closed system. There's no miracles. Our splitting the atom or any other major human action was predicated on a long series of events we have no control of. In practice I'm going to try to do the smart thing, but I'm not omniscient or omnipotent. I'm not in control of human events.

    I'm just going to sit around and watch "The League" and try to decide if I'm more like Ruxin or Pete. I'm feeling Pete, but I respect how evil Ruxin is.
    But you have been implying that nothing should be done about it, as if there is no point. I don't really care that you choose to be passive on the matter and "observe", but you have been actively arguing against the evidence and now claim that your justification is that it is all natural/inevitable. It is like you are on the deck of a sinking ship, blocking the way to the life boats and saying "don't worry everybody, it is all inevitable."
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  6. #106
    Border Patrol's Avatar Protector Domesticus
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Irvine, California
    Posts
    4,286

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quite the alarmist comparison
    Proud Nerdimus Maximus of the Trench Coat Mafia.

  7. #107

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Border Patrol View Post
    Quite the alarmist comparison
    Fair comparison, imo. If you don't care, fine, don't care, but don't get in the way of people who do care and want to do something about it.
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  8. #108
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Then do something. My contributions are of no significance. Pull your oar. Im pulling my oar.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  9. #109

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    Then do something. My contributions are of no significance. Pull your oar. Im pulling my oar.
    You are arguing against the position.
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  10. #110
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    You are arguing against the position.
    I'm arguing that individual people can't hold the status quo if it's going in a certain direction.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  11. #111

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    I'm arguing that individual people can't hold the status quo if it's going in a certain direction.
    It sounded like you were saying people's behaviors can't be changed...
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  12. #112
    Dr Zoidberg's Avatar A Medical Corporation
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    5,155

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    I'll just leave this here.

    Australia's "dome of heat" has become so intense that the temperatures are rising off the charts – literally.
    Young lady, I am an expert on humans. Now pick a mouth, open it and say "brglgrglgrrr"!

  13. #113
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    It sounded like you were saying people's behaviors can't be changed...
    I don't know if they can. I want to ideally end electric coal use with nuclear. Coal generally has some undeniably bad emissions. However I think we need more time to look at carbon. When we get onto a 95% nuclear 5% "green" electric economy then we will be in a position to implement battery cars which aren't adding to the emissions problem. Right now as far as I know, an electric car on a coal grid is more of a pollutant than a gas guzzler. I'm not sure selling scores of new reactors is going to work near term.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zoidberg View Post
    I'll just leave this here.
    This is interesting, but not earth shattering. Don't bring weather events into a climate thread.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  14. #114
    Blau&Gruen's Avatar Civitate
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Wagadougou, Bourkina Faso
    Posts
    5,545

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    I am skeptical that 95% nuclear can be reached. Who can reach it? The infrastructure around the disposal would have to be extensive, not to forget that the costs of insurances are a factor that goes into the price. As it looks the ideal environment, consumer and industry friendly solution seems long time coming, unfortunately.
    Last edited by Blau&Gruen; January 08, 2013 at 03:58 AM.
    Patronized by Ozymandias
    Je bâtis ma demeure
    Le livre des questions
    Un étranger avec sous le bras un livre de petit format

    golemzombiroboticvacuumcleanerstrawberrycream

  15. #115
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Blau&Gruen View Post
    I am skeptical that 95% nuclear can be reached. Who can reach it? The infrastructure around the disposal would have to be extensive, not to forget that the costs of insurances are a factor that goes into the price. As it looks the ideal environment, consumer and industry friendly solution seems long time coming, unfortunately.
    I was kind of exaggerating.

    Revise what I said: 75% Nuclear. 15% Hydroelectric. 10% Geothermal. That's France.

    The point is that basic housing power needs to come from clean and sustainable practices. Purely because it's more World of Tomorrow.

    America needs to make the present more like the future we imagined in the past.
    Last edited by Col. Tartleton; January 08, 2013 at 04:21 AM.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  16. #116

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    I don't know if they can. I want to ideally end electric coal use with nuclear. Coal generally has some undeniably bad emissions. However I think we need more time to look at carbon. When we get onto a 95% nuclear 5% "green" electric economy then we will be in a position to implement battery cars which aren't adding to the emissions problem. Right now as far as I know, an electric car on a coal grid is more of a pollutant than a gas guzzler. I'm not sure selling scores of new reactors is going to work near term.
    Lol, behaviors certainly can be changed/manipulated, especially through economic policy. Welcome to behavioral economics, it is all the rage nowadays.
    They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.

  17. #117
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Lol, behaviors certainly can be changed/manipulated, especially through economic policy. Welcome to behavioral economics, it is all the rage nowadays.
    They can be, but will they be?

    Right now in the US we've got one camp with their head in the clouds talking nonsense and one camp with their head in the ground refusing to listen.

    That's not getting us anywhere. One party is trying to flood futurist "green" energy with money and the other party is convinced its' a scam and just wants to drill for more coal and oil.

    You've got one camp looking at the 22nd century and one camp looking at the 20th century. We're in the 21st century.



    This city is running on fission.
    Last edited by Col. Tartleton; January 08, 2013 at 04:47 AM.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  18. #118

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    We could dispose of toxic waste on the Moon, or shoot it into the Sun.
    Eats, shoots, and leaves.

  19. #119
    Col. Tartleton's Avatar Comes Limitis
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cape Ann
    Posts
    13,053

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Or bury it...
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

  20. #120
    MathiasOfAthens's Avatar Comes Rei Militaris
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Stockholm, Sverige
    Posts
    22,877

    Default Re: Global warming is not that bad

    Quote Originally Posted by NRohirrim View Post
    I mean: we must pay pretty big bills for getting houses (and workplaces) warm during winter. That's not all! It's also about farming - plantations would have longest time of vegetation.

    I'm writing this down from Central Europe, but I think it could be good perception for all Europe, Canada, USA, and even on the Southern Hemisphere countries like Chile, Argentina.
    I live in Sweden if I can stay warm during the winter so can you guys...


    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    They can be, but will they be?

    Right now in the US we've got one camp with their head in the clouds talking nonsense and one camp with their head in the ground refusing to listen.

    That's not getting us anywhere. One party is trying to flood futurist "green" energy with money and the other party is convinced its' a scam and just wants to drill for more coal and oil.

    You've got one camp looking at the 22nd century and one camp looking at the 20th century. We're in the 21st century.


    This city is running on fission.
    The side looking into green energy or more efficient fuel sources isnt stuck with their heads in the clouds. They are seeking futuristic energy sources because they dont exist yet or are not available for whatever reason, or they do exist. Plus everything is futuristic until you develop it. An Iphone 10 is futuristic until Apple releases one. You know it will come sooner or later.

    Anyway, the left is seeking things like HSR and more mass-transit options in our cities. Electrifying our railways and more environmentally favourable buses. None of this is futuristic but it is certainly green.
    Last edited by MathiasOfAthens; January 08, 2013 at 06:36 AM.

Page 6 of 8 FirstFirst 12345678 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •