Humans are part of nature, therefore everything we do is natural. If the ocean changes due to human action this is natural. Nihilism? Read again.
Humans are part of nature, therefore everything we do is natural. If the ocean changes due to human action this is natural. Nihilism? Read again.
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It actually isn't considered natural. Actions by humans are considered natural if we are unaware of what impacts we are having and artificial if we are aware of what we are manipulating (at least that is how it was discussed in environmental science). Regardless of that, he is implying that natural means it doesn't matter or isn't bad for us or can't be avoided. All of that is stupid and nihilistic. Like, why even build dykes to stop something natural in that case...
They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
I'm like halfway between the site and the evacuation line. Worst case scenario it cooks off, I don't evacuate, and I go sterile. Oh no... I don't have to wear condoms now.
It's a silly thing to be afraid of.
I'm not nihilist. I'm a series of actions and reactions. If the human world is preserved good. If not, a shame. But whatever happens was bound to happen. I'm deterministic atheist/deist. It's a closed system. There's no miracles. Our splitting the atom or any other major human action was predicated on a long series of events we have no control of. In practice I'm going to try to do the smart thing, but I'm not omniscient or omnipotent. I'm not in control of human events.
I'm just going to sit around and watch "The League" and try to decide if I'm more like Ruxin or Pete. I'm feeling Pete, but I respect how evil Ruxin is.
Last edited by Col. Tartleton; January 04, 2013 at 05:39 AM.
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But you have been implying that nothing should be done about it, as if there is no point. I don't really care that you choose to be passive on the matter and "observe", but you have been actively arguing against the evidence and now claim that your justification is that it is all natural/inevitable. It is like you are on the deck of a sinking ship, blocking the way to the life boats and saying "don't worry everybody, it is all inevitable."
They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
Quite the alarmist comparison
Proud Nerdimus Maximus of the Trench Coat Mafia.
They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
Then do something. My contributions are of no significance. Pull your oar. Im pulling my oar.
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I'll just leave this here.
Australia's "dome of heat" has become so intense that the temperatures are rising off the charts – literally.
Young lady, I am an expert on humans. Now pick a mouth, open it and say "brglgrglgrrr"!
I don't know if they can. I want to ideally end electric coal use with nuclear. Coal generally has some undeniably bad emissions. However I think we need more time to look at carbon. When we get onto a 95% nuclear 5% "green" electric economy then we will be in a position to implement battery cars which aren't adding to the emissions problem. Right now as far as I know, an electric car on a coal grid is more of a pollutant than a gas guzzler. I'm not sure selling scores of new reactors is going to work near term.
This is interesting, but not earth shattering. Don't bring weather events into a climate thread.
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I am skeptical that 95% nuclear can be reached. Who can reach it? The infrastructure around the disposal would have to be extensive, not to forget that the costs of insurances are a factor that goes into the price. As it looks the ideal environment, consumer and industry friendly solution seems long time coming, unfortunately.
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I was kind of exaggerating.
Revise what I said: 75% Nuclear. 15% Hydroelectric. 10% Geothermal. That's France.
The point is that basic housing power needs to come from clean and sustainable practices. Purely because it's more World of Tomorrow.
America needs to make the present more like the future we imagined in the past.
Last edited by Col. Tartleton; January 08, 2013 at 04:21 AM.
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The search for intelligent life continues...
They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
They can be, but will they be?
Right now in the US we've got one camp with their head in the clouds talking nonsense and one camp with their head in the ground refusing to listen.
That's not getting us anywhere. One party is trying to flood futurist "green" energy with money and the other party is convinced its' a scam and just wants to drill for more coal and oil.
You've got one camp looking at the 22nd century and one camp looking at the 20th century. We're in the 21st century.
This city is running on fission.
Last edited by Col. Tartleton; January 08, 2013 at 04:47 AM.
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We could dispose of toxic waste on the Moon, or shoot it into the Sun.
Eats, shoots, and leaves.
Or bury it...
The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
The search for intelligent life continues...
I live in Sweden if I can stay warm during the winter so can you guys...
The side looking into green energy or more efficient fuel sources isnt stuck with their heads in the clouds. They are seeking futuristic energy sources because they dont exist yet or are not available for whatever reason, or they do exist. Plus everything is futuristic until you develop it. An Iphone 10 is futuristic until Apple releases one. You know it will come sooner or later.
Anyway, the left is seeking things like HSR and more mass-transit options in our cities. Electrifying our railways and more environmentally favourable buses. None of this is futuristic but it is certainly green.
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