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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangalore View Post
    High tech processes usually don't and prefer completely controlled conditions so them taking place in space changes little in terms of that they need to completely control the purity of their produce anyway. So them adding the atmospheric mix they want is just part of the whole idea of producing high quality alloys.

    You are assuming a civilization living on a planet. All the problems you describe the civilization would have to tackle when it went into space in style and breadth. There'd be no reason for a civilization to go into space if they haven't mastered zero G building and exploit the raw resources of an entire solar system or considered it worthwhile. There'd be no point in it if escaping a gravity well is still a major problem logistics wise (that doesn't preclude it being a cost factor).

    But once the civilization starts exploiting an entire solar system the vast majority of their industry and mining will take place in space anyway because there's far more stuff there than we'll find on Earth and there'd have been a reason to leave the planet in the first place that exploiting it is worthwhile. So I think the presumption that the planets are the interesting bits in conquering neighbors begins to fall apart. As you say, suddenly the places where planets aren't are more interesting because you don't have to haul material up and down a planet's gravity or deal with its atmosphere or deal with an ecosystem so doing it in bulk will be more economical there and you only send consumer goods back to a planet's population.

    Maybe they become the rural backwater areas none bothers with because the transport hubs and economy will be where it can easily gather stuff from all around the solar system and beyond; which is not necessarily a planet but maybe simply an orbit around the biggest concentration of raw resources, or a moon with a quarter the gravity and no atmosphere to deal with etc.
    Isn't most of the Solar system's accessible solid matter located in planetoids? I mean, asteroid mining is all fine and dandy, but even a small planetoid like Mars or Europa has hundreds of times more resources close the surface than minable asteroids.

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    Don't forget that giant diamond planet they found a couple of years ago.
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    We just don't get films which accurately portray military decision making like Dr. Strangelove anymore these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    Isn't most of the Solar system's accessible solid matter located in planetoids? I mean, asteroid mining is all fine and dandy, but even a small planetoid like Mars or Europa has hundreds of times more resources close the surface than minable asteroids.
    planetoids and asteroids are synonyms so I do not really follow... Assuming you mean planets my point is that when you exploit the entirety of a solar system the singular inhabitable planet suddenly becomes less interesting, particularly when it is about exploiting non organic raw resources for advanced alloys and it's not like we can synthesize a lot of carbon based components even when using oil might be cheaper. You'll care more about the concentration of ores, the ease of their exploitation and unhindered smelting facilities and the place where you can bring it all together. Without an open ecosystem industries can work on an entirely different level because Io is already a volcanic death trap, creating millions of tons of toxic industrial waste and dumping it there won't change anything.

    Resource rich small moons and planets would be more accessible for space bound exploitation than bigger planets with heavier gravity and atmospheres and dealing with ecosystems and earth based populations more annoying when there are vast swathes of real estate without anything of note in there.
    "Sebaceans once had a god called Djancaz-Bru. Six worlds prayed to her. They built her temples, conquered planets. And yet one day she rose up and destroyed all six worlds. And when the last warrior was dying, he said, 'We gave you everything, why did you destroy us?' And she looked down upon him and she whispered, 'Because I can.' "
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