In which way one system is better than the other? so we do not go "that way direction heading".
In which way one system is better than the other? so we do not go "that way direction heading".
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There is no accountability anymore, I can vote yes or no without even looking at the application and no one can tell me otherwise. With the CdeC members are required to give a damn or lose their position. Its just one reason why I like the CdeC more
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Except that CdeC members, not all and those that did not all of the time, didn't actually give a damn, they just pretended to. Just because a CdeC member says they fact checked there was no way whatsoever to determine if they actually did what they said they did, and it was clear looking at many applications that CdeC member did not in fact look closely at an application to investigate the worthiness of a candidate otherwise hex (Q diplomatically, and me with a baseball bat) would not have had to step in nor would there have been appalling cases that failed.
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I not going to argue about how CdeC members were at their jobs whether they were good or bad. they were elected into office and the responsibility lays with the voters to vote in officials who will do the job properly. It is a failure on the part of the citizenry not CdeC if the job isn't done to satisfaction and should elected someone who will.
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Or, when they checked, some of them (me f.e. in my early terms) who checked had so hilariously high standards, that thorough checking didn't made the checking any better (see the General Brewster case) and did nothing to further the applicants case.
That being said, there have been quite some descent councilors too!
I see some awards given because the CdC activity among other activities here in the CVRIA, being the CdC one relevant. All those award are being given to the CdC times participants. It is a paradox game: Hearts of Councilor.
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97.5 % sure
You keep overlooking, accidentally I'm sure, the other obvious shortfall, aside from the many I've previously mentioned. A person may not want to take a full time position but still want to take part. With CdeC we had approximately 6 people, at most, with knowledge of the area a member was bringing in, now we have every citizen who has knowledge of that area that can, if they chose, participate. In some knowledge areas that 6 was woefully inadequate and no one could step in to bring the required knowledge to the table. I also notice how every time people point out a problem with CdeC to you its never CdeC's fault it's always the fault of the rest of the citizens for electing them.
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The citizens are always at fault because they always have a choice.
The CdeC wasn't perfect but we did have our bases covered when it came to various branches contributions.
This vote when you want too is a flawed system, It leaves the door open to anyone with a citizen badge to vote yes for friends and not give a damn about anything else. At least the CdeC was accountable for what they voted on and received constant feedback from admins and citizens.
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100%. Take mishkin, he has no contributions in the sense the CdeC understood them yet he is by far one of the most active members at the moment. I doubt the CdeC would have passed him without Hex intervention. Or take Pike, he would have been rejected purely on principle because he criticized the CdeC. Or Darren who would have been rejected because nobody on the CdeC would've had even an inkling of the effort making those videos requires.
The only way the CdeC would have worked is if they were hand picked by Hex and consisted of members with varying interests.
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It's time to remove the curia and the badges that go with it.
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I have a prediction too. You will not see more than twenty non-citizens in the prothalamos.
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