MOS, the ultimate TATW experience.. version 1.6.1 for Third Age 3.2 released 7th Oct

[ElvenKind]

thanks.. so Elfs remain too expensive

And Elves should be too expensive.. Or otherwise, instead of a Dark Lord, we would have A Dark Queen!

[Stylix]

thanks.. so Elfs remain too expensive

Elves are balanced just where they should be.
The High Elven faction is considered by many to be the easiest faction to play.
The units cost more than some other factions, but require fewer units to accomplish the goal.

[Ryric]

Yikes, death to my post count also. I had almost 200 posts there.

[Stylix]

Yikes, death to my post count also. I had almost 200 posts there.

Welcome noob!

[DaysBefore]

Judging by the changelog, I guess the basic Gondorian levies aren't being added? Makes sense I suppose, at that point the entire roster would be wiped, or near enough.

[MIKE GOLF]

Judging by the changelog, I guess the basic Gondorian levies aren't being added? Makes sense I suppose, at that point the entire roster would be wiped, or near enough.

No, currently we are satisfied with the basic Gondor Militia and Gondor Archer Militia and how they perform on the battlefield, we did however substitute the ui's from Taro M's units which makes the Gondorian roster look incredibly uniform across the board.

[the lightning legion]

yay gondor should be uniform its about the last thing they still have from numenor

[kostas84]

Is it intentional that some factions such as Mordor instantly take Walled Garrisoned cities right at the start without properly sieging the settlement first?

[Stylix]

Is it intentional that some factions such as Mordor instantly take Walled Garrisoned cities right at the start without properly sieging the settlement first?

Yes, that is from the script included in TATW and created by KK.

[kostas84]

Yes, that is from the script included in TATW and created by KK.

Is there a reason why it doesnt happen with the AI Gondor regarding Cair Andros? They dont seem to get Cair Andros right at the start but an army does spawn there and siege it first.

[chriskourou]

And Elves should be too expensive.. Or otherwise, instead of a Dark Lord, we would have A Dark Queen!

haha nice one... but this is too much o a problem in custom battles...

[chriskourou]

Elves are balanced just where they should be.
The High Elven faction is considered by many to be the easiest faction to play.
The units cost more than some other factions, but require fewer units to accomplish the goal.

Yeah I got that. But it isnt too much fun to play with 400 elfs against 4000 orks is it?

[kostas84]

Yeah I got that. But it isnt too much fun to play with 400 elfs against 4000 orks is it?

Its supposed to be that way, Elves were on decline, huge decline during that time of the third age, they were leaving.

The elves unit stats are also excellent.

[Stylix]

Is there a reason why it doesnt happen with the AI Gondor regarding Cair Andros? They dont seem to get Cair Andros right at the start but an army does spawn there and siege it first.

Yes, Cair Andros starts with a garrison and is a much more important target strategically then the other settlements that are in the script. As I stated before, this is part of TATW and I assume was done for play balancing. It would give Gondor too big of an advantage if they could just walk in and take it.

Yeah I got that. But it isnt too much fun to play with 400 elfs against 4000 orks is it?

Sounds a little unfair to me, for the orcs.

[Majordea]

ummm, yea I came back to see if anyone had any answers about what happens when Sauran is resurrected and how hard he is 2 kill...the thread is gone :?

[DaysBefore]

No, currently we are satisfied with the basic Gondor Militia and Gondor Archer Militia and how they perform on the battlefield, we did however substitute the ui's from Taro M's units which makes the Gondorian roster look incredibly uniform across the board.

Good to know, it would be a shame to entirely eliminate the standard Gondorian roster. I would assume there is no chance of still inserting the levy units as the absolute bottom of the barrel, and making the Militia units a mid-level choice?

[MIKE GOLF]

I think that Gondor is well represented unit wise. More so than any other faction, their militia units perform well in the field and to add another militia type unit is a bit of overkill. Also, as Taro continues to release his units we will include the ones that the team feels would add the best value both in appearance and in terms of game balance. There is a limit to the amount of units in the game (500) so that is another reason we have to be somewhat careful in adding units. We are also looking at additional units for other factions as well so as not to concentrate fully on Gondor.

[SirEyeball]

From the current change log it looks like you aren't going to include some of Spice Masters work? I thought some of it would fit perfectly in. And the Dunland one would maybe not but the units would and Dunland definitely needs some love. They actually also need a goal in the same category as reforging Arnor. It could be restore the Gwaithuirim and be about regaining their former strength much like Arnor or the Elven kingdoms. It would also be nice if Dunland could get units from Isengard.

[Arachir Galudirithon]

ummm, yea I came back to see if anyone had any answers about what happens when Sauran is resurrected and how hard he is 2 kill...the thread is gone :?

Sauron spawns as a general with a full stack of pitiful orcs, I am unsure if more stacks spawn but I know that he definitely comes with a hefty army. Sauron himself acts like a very strong troll or Mumakil unit. He will walk over infantry and knock them all down.

Sauron will destroy infantry, cavalry and archers. However he has a MAJOR weakness to pikemen and javelin throwers as he is a 'monster' unit. So if you see him, build pikemen and pray.

I am fairly certain that Sauron does not become the faction leader, but he probably does join the family tree. I can not say for certain as I am loath to play as Mordor.

As a final note, Sauron isn't too bad and I personally have killed him thrice, twice in Arnor campaigns and once with the High Elves.

[dIRECT0R]

I think that Gondor is well represented unit wise. More so than any other faction, their militia units perform well in the field and to add another militia type unit is a bit of overkill. Also, as Taro continues to release his units we will include the ones that the team feels would add the best value both in appearance and in terms of game balance. There is a limit to the amount of units in the game (500) so that is another reason we have to be somewhat careful in adding units. We are also looking at additional units for other factions as well so as not to concentrate fully on Gondor.

As I said before: I recommend replacing the vanilla Gondor roster with Taro's units. I gave them some work (included them in my submod) and imo they now look the part. They are, after all, fully upgradeable.