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**Ngugi** · October 06, 2012, 12:33 PM

Then he keep his sword and no one get any pieces of it? ^^

**Feanaro Curufinwe** · October 07, 2012, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Ngugi

Then he keep his sword and no one get any pieces of it? ^^

How long will the campaign be?

**Ngugi** · October 07, 2012, 06:37 AM

Will see, I start out the same as TATW (400), but might either make it longer or shorter once it can be beta-tested, depending on LAs uniqe enviroment that may require or encourage edits in either direction!

**Feanaro Curufinwe** · October 07, 2012, 10:19 AM

How will Mordor start out?

**Ngugi** · October 07, 2012, 11:28 AM

Much like it does today but most regions will start more developed, also adding Dagorlad; and the AI Mordor is offensive the first turn north and west

Edit: This btw mean Minas Ithil is in the hands of Mordor, as it looks, as the war started with Sauron taking the fortress in 3429 in a sudden assult.

**Eönwë** · October 07, 2012, 11:35 AM

Will there be Olog-Hai?

In which way is Mordor more developed? Economical?

They were less armoured and organized than the Orcs of the Third Age right?

**Ngugi** · October 07, 2012, 11:41 AM

No, Olog-Hai came first in the end of the Third Age. Neither will there be any Uruks.
But don't worry, we intend to compensate the players hehe

Yes, economical but also in general: more buildings built in the settlements and higher level on them

No, we have no reason to assume that, possibly rather the opposit since they had such a long time to prepare in Mordor, that had existed as a realm for over 1000 year at the time of the LA

**Eönwë** · October 07, 2012, 11:54 AM

I always assumed they were less in the Second Age (more of a horde rather than a real army) but your explanation makes sense...

No Uruks and no Olog-Hai sounds great! (I always play the good factions hehe) but I assume your compensation will give me a hard time too haha

What will the difference be with the Dwarves? Will they make use of Mithril armor? (cause they have Moria)

EDIT: Any name for the Orcs of Gundabad yet? Cause the Dwarves start off with Gundabad as a settlement (If I read the map right)

**Feanaro Curufinwe** · October 07, 2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Ngugi

No, Olog-Hai came first in the end of the Third Age. Neither will there be any Uruks.
But don't worry, we intend to compensate the players hehe

Yes, economical but also in general: more buildings built in the settlements and higher level on them

No, we have no reason to assume that, possibly rather the opposit since they had such a long time to prepare in Mordor, that had existed as a realm for over 1000 year at the time of the LA

I wonder what the compensation will be. Black Numenoreans since they are still thriving?

**Ngugi** · October 07, 2012, 11:59 AM

Yes, it will not be fun to be good just because some dangerous foes are not yet in existance hehe

Will look over how it work right now, but either way yes the plan is that mithril mines > armour upgrades in Moria.
But ofc, we all know what can happend if you dig too deep and too greedy.

**Ngugi** · October 07, 2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Feanaro Curufinwe

I wonder what the compensation will be. Black Numenoreans since they are still thriving?

That's one plan (with BN cavalry removed ofc), though as a rule BN is Harad's roster.
The other plan is currently

hehe, but we will do our best to compensate so it will not feel like a loss but an interesting version of what Mordor would bring forth

**Eönwë** · October 07, 2012, 12:06 PM

Please read the EDIT in my earlier post

Will the roles of Harad and Rhun be the same as in TATW? Or will they act more like vassals of Mordor?

**Ngugi** · October 07, 2012, 12:09 PM

Not sure yet actually, there's a limited amount of lore to lean against but it contains a lot of options at the same time - OoG still a joker in the game and until more decisions are taken the name is not clear

They will be like it is in TATW is the intention.

**Feanaro Curufinwe** · October 08, 2012, 07:42 AM

Joker?

**Ngugi** · October 08, 2012, 08:05 AM

Perhaps a swedish saying, 'a joker in the deck', meaning that it's a surprise, something unpredictable hehe.
After all we do not wan't to create faction clones or have any that's just ain't funny to play, if at all possible to avoid. Have some ideas, though that will require a little help, so nothing we know how it will develop atm.

**Feanaro Curufinwe** · October 08, 2012, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ngugi

Perhaps a swedish saying, 'a joker in the deck', meaning that it's a surprise, something unpredictable hehe.
After all we do not wan't to create faction clones or have any that's just ain't funny to play, if at all possible to avoid. Have some ideas, though that will require a little help, so nothing we know how it will develop atm.

What do you think of my ideas for the Numenoreans? As for faction leaders and heirs:the Numenoreans have Elendil, Isildur and Anarion. The Eldar of Lindon have Ereinion Gil Galad. Mordor has Sauron.Lorien has Amroth? Mirkwood has Oropher and Thranduil. Harad has Herumor and another guy.

**Ngugi** · October 08, 2012, 08:22 AM

Sorry, must have forgotten the suggestion! [edit: perhaps because it was already planned hehe]
This is the planned characters so far (this is also a matter mainly awaiting other basic codings like maps, roster, buildings etc before it's put focus upon)

Characters

**Feanaro Curufinwe** · October 08, 2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Ngugi

Sorry, must have forgotten the suggestion! [edit: perhaps because it was already planned hehe]
This is the planned characters so far (this is also a matter mainly awaiting other basic codings like maps, roster, buildings etc before it's put focus upon)

Characters

Nice. But you shouldn't be calling it the United Kingdom.It sounds...weird [Although it may be because it conjures British imagery in my head] Kingdom of the Dunedain would be far better.Also, for it to be United there had to be something to unite.

**Emperor of Hell** · October 08, 2012, 09:32 AM

Perhaps the Two Kingdoms? It is suggested as different name by Tolkien Gateway

**Ngugi** · October 08, 2012, 09:34 AM

It's not intended to be called UK but simply Númenóreans as it is, UK was a working name; but as it is two kingdoms into one union with one high-king it's per definition already a united kingdom hehe