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    Syntagma Election Section:

    Proposer: Spiff
    Official Supporters: Aemilianus, Perikles & Gaius Baltar

    This bill aims to condense the Syntagma, to simplify and streamline by removing repeated sections and adding referals to a unified "Curial Elections" section.


    The following section shall be added to the Syntagma:

    Curial Elections:
    When a Curial election is required, and the Basileus deems it necessary, the Curator, Pro-Curator or Senior Staff will open a Qualification thread for the vacant position and post a relevant announcement in the Curia. Applicants to the vacant position must post their reasons for wishing to participate and relevant qualifications within this qualifications thread, which shall remain open for no longer than one week.

    Qualifying candidates are all users with at least one month of experience in the rank of Civitate, and must also meet any further requirements stipulated by the specific position they are applying for. All qualifying applicants not vetoed by Staff go forward to a vote open for one week. If more than 15 eligible users apply and are not vetoed, the Staff can either select the 15 they believe to be the most suitable to be voted on, or expand the vote beyond 15 if deemed desirable.

    Where one position is to be filled, the candidate who receives the plurality of votes receives the position. Where two or more positions are to be filled, only one poll need be held, and the candidates with the highest votes are appointed. In the case of ties there will be a run-off vote between the tied members lasting one week.



    The "Moderators and Network administrators (Staff)" section of the Syntagma relating to the rank of Tribounos shall be amended as highlighted in blue:

    Moderators and Network administrators (Staff):
    Tribounos (Quaestor) - Magistrate
    The Basileus has full powers to hire or fire Tribounos at will but, while retaining this power, normally delaegates the elections of them to the Curia. Tribounos are voted into their position by the Curia as per the "Curial Elections" section of the Syntagma. The total number of Tribounos, their assignments and powers are set by the Basileus and the Basileus can fire them at will.



    The "Tribounos Elections" section shall be deleted from the Syntagma.

    Tribounos Elections:
    When the Basileus deems it necessary to select a Tribounos, staff will open the Qualification thread and post an announcement. Qualifying candidates are all users with at least one month of experience in the rank of Civitate. All applicants not vetoed by Staff then go forward to a vote open for one week. If more than 15 candidates apply and are not vetoed, the Staff can either select the 15 they believe to be the most suitable to be voted on, or expand the vote beyond 15 if deemed desirable.

    Where one position is to be filled, the candidate who receives the plurality of votes receives the position. Where two or more positions are to be filled, only one poll need be held, and the candidates with the highest votes are appointed. In the case of ties there will be a run-off vote between the tied members lasting one week.



    The "Consilium de Civitate" section of the Syntagma shall be amended as highlighted in blue:

    Consilium de Civitate:
    The Consilium de Civitate is a body of Civitates and staff. The council consists of 4 Senatorii, 4 Patricians, the Pro-Curator and Senior Staff. Senatorii and Patricians on the Consilium de Civitate are elected by the Curia every two months and must actively participate.

    Consilium de Civitate Elections:
    When a member of the Consilium de Civitate resigns, or when their term expires, elections to fill vacant position(s) shall be held as per the "Curial Elections" section of the Syntagma, with the added requirement that eligible candidates must also hold either the rank of Patrician or Senatorii, depending on to which group the vacant position belongs.

    Senior Staff will open the Qualification thread and post an announcement. Eligible candidates are Patricians with no active warnings at the time of the election and must not be current Staff members. If more than 15 candidates apply and are not vetoed, the Staff can either select the 15 they believe to be the most suitable to be voted on, or expand the vote beyond 15 if deemed desirable. Where one position is to be filled, the candidate who receives the plurality of votes receives the position. Where two or more positions are to be filled, only one poll need be held, and the candidates with the highest votes are appointed. In the case of ties there will be a run-off vote between the tied members lasting one week.

    The same process is used for Senatorii with the exception that an additional requirement, that they hold Senatoriiship, is also applied.




    The "Curator and Pro-Curator:" section of the Syntagma shall be amended as highlighted in Blue:

    Curator & Pro-Curator:
    The Curator, and their deputy the Pro-Curator, are responsible for the day to day running of the Curia and the guardians of the Syntagma. The Curator is a Senior Moderator assigned to the role by the Basileus, whereas the Pro-Curator is a non-staff position elected by the Curia.

    Qualification and election:
    When selected the Curator is presented to the Curia by the Basileus. The Curia then holds a ratification vote for the new Curator, which vote shall be opened in the Curia Vote and last for 7 days, simple majority being sufficient to ratify the new Curator. If the Curator fails the ratification vote, then the Basileus must choose another Senior Moderator and they must also face a ratification vote in the Curia. Should all Senior Moderators fail a ratification vote, then the one with the highest number of votes in their favour becomes the Curator.

    When the Pro-Curator position is vacant, a new Pro-Curator shall be chosen as per the "Curial Elections" section of the Syntagma, with the added requirement that eligible candidates must also hold the rank of Patrician and have no active warnings at the time of their election.

    the Consilium de Civitate will open a Qualification thread, within 3 days of the position becoming vacant. Those who wish to participate then post their candidature, stating the reason(s) why they should be elected. Candidates must be Patricians with no warnings at the time of their election, serving members of staff may not stand for this position. The thread is for candidates only, superfluous comments will be excised.

    The thread will be stickied for a period of 48 hours, after which a vote shall be opened for one week containing all eligible members who have not been vetoed in accordance to the Staff Veto Act. The winner is the one with the most votes.



    The Act of law, the "Councils Act", shall be revised as highlighted in Blue

    The Councils Act:
    Consilium Belli

    Six Civitates shall be appointed by the Triumvirate to discuss and advise on ideas concerning the Total War section of the forums. These civitates should have a strong background in the Total War modding community and be in good standing.

    A designated forum will be created in the Curia, viewable publically, where all suggestions regarding the Total War section of the Forums will be discussed. The Council will have the power to invite a non-civitate members and shall be presided over by the Syntagma Pro-Curator. The Consilium Belli shall make necessary recomendations to the staff on issues of the TW Sections.

    Appointment to the Consilium Belli:
    Each member of the Consilium Belli has a term which lasts for a period of two months from when they are appointed. When a Council members term is due to end or a Councillor resigns, the Curator will choose when to open a candidates thread and post an announcement in the Curia. Applicants must then post their reasons for wishing to participate and relevant qualifications within this qualifications thread, which shall remain open for 72 hours.

    After the candidates thread is closed the Triumvirate will appoint as many new Councillors as are required at that time. Councillors may serve consecutive terms though in the interests of fairness the Triumvirate will attempt to introduce new qualified councillors when possible.


    Consilium Pacis

    Four Civitates shall be elected by the Curia as per the "Curial Elections" section of the Syntagma to discuss and advise on ideas concerning the Common Community section of the forums. These civitates should have a strong background in the Common Community and be in good standing.

    A designated forum will be created in the Curia, viewable publically, where all suggestions regarding the Common Community section of the Forums will be discussed. The Council will have the power to invite a non-civitate members and shall be presided over by the Syntagma Pro-Curator. The Council shall make necessary recomendations to the staff on issues of the Common Community. Each member of the Consilium Pacis has a term which lasts for a period of two months from when they are elected.

    Election to the Consilium Pacis:
    When a Council members term is due to end or a councillor resigns, the Curator will choose when to open a candidates thread and post an announcement in the Curia. Applicants must then post their reasons for wishing to participate and relevant qualifications within this qualifications thread, which shall remain open for 72 hours. All applicants not vetoed by Staff go forward to a vote open for one week. If more than 15 eligible users apply and are not vetoed, the Staff can either select the 15 they believe to be the most suitable to be voted on, or expand the vote beyond 15 if deemed desirable. Previous members of the Consilium Pacis are eligible for re-election.

    Where one position is to be filled, the candidate who receives the plurality of votes receives the position on the Council of Peace. Where two or more positions are to be filled, only one poll need be held, and the candidates with the highest votes are appointed. In the case of ties there will be a run-off vote between the tied members lasting one week.
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    Sounds good to me, any red tape cutting exercise is right up my street.

    After reading it there doesn't seem to be any loopholes which can normally happen when you do this sort of thing, so if you are looking for supporters...

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    The Basileus has full powers to hire or fire Tribounos at will but, while retaining this power, has delegated the elections of them to the Curia. Tribounos are voted into their position by the Curia as per the "Curial Elections" section of the Syntagma. The total number of Tribounos, their assignments and powers are set by the Basileus. and the Basileus can fire them at will.
    Cut out the red.

    When selected the Curator is presented to the Curia by the Basileus. The Curia then holds a ratification vote for the new Curator, which vote shall be opened in the Curia Vote and last for 7 days, simple majority being sufficient to ratify the new Curator. If the Curator fails the ratification vote, then the Basileus may choose another Senior Moderator and they must also face a ratification vote in the Curia. Should all Senior Moderators fail a ratification vote, then the one with the highest number of votes in their favour becomes the Curator.
    Replacing 'must' with 'may.' If the Basileus has the power to fire and hire Tribounos at will then surely he can do the same with the Curator.

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    sounds good, so long as we are certain we want the same elections procedure for the tribounos, councillors and pro-curator.

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    lol JP loopholes when i do this sort of thing? You cut me deep..

    Anyway the election procedure can still be different for different positions if specified in individual sections, the CdeC and Pro-C elections still retain the same specific requirements they had before for example - the only difference is now all elections are taken under the rule that qualification threads can remain open for up to one week, at the discretion of whoever opened it, depending on the urgency with which the position must be filled of course. The main objective is to simplify and streamline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff
    The main objective is to simplify and streamline.
    And I agree with this objective. Take the "Tribounos/Councillor Election Changes" where I noticed we were changing all the elections except the Pro-Curator, and given many people saying these changes would have been good in the recent Pro-Curator election, it appeared simply to be an oversight. This problem would be avoided by placing the basic parts of Curia elections all in one section (as we had before back when we had less elections). Which is exactly what this bill does.

    Good thought Spiff.
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    Looking better with each reincarnation. Go SPiff!

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    as you'll literally "hear" me say soon... i'll say here too...

    this is good, without hesitiation, this is good

    but be careful whn you consolidate and streamline that you don't lose something important... its happened before when key lines we all thought existed turned out to have vanished in a case of broud axe swinging with the goal of simplification.

    a simplified syntagma is good so long as you still have the exacting detail where the detail needs to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabolous
    And I agree with this objective. Take the "Tribounos/Councillor Election Changes" where I noticed we were changing all the elections except the Pro-Curator, and given many people saying these changes would have been good in the recent Pro-Curator election, it appeared simply to be an oversight. This problem would be avoided by placing the basic parts of Curia elections all in one section (as we had before back when we had less elections). Which is exactly what this bill does.

    Good thought Spiff.
    Actually i think the "must post your qualifications and reasons for applying" line was already in the pro-c part of the syntagma, so it didnt need to be added in that other bill i wrote up at the time.

    EDIT:

    may i list tBP, JP and Gaius as supporters of this bill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff
    Actually i think the "must post your qualifications and reasons for applying" line was already in the pro-c part of the syntagma, so it didnt need to be added in that other bill i wrote up at the time.

    EDIT:

    may i list tBP, JP and Gaius as supporters of this bill?
    You may... :hmmm:

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    A bit late (I've been in NY for a week), but I agree with this as well. Very good idea, Spiff, and it would have had my support too if I'd been here for it. It would have my vote, though.
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    Im going to be away for a week at most so id just like to say id appreciate if this moved to vote relatively soon, assuming no errors are found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiff
    Im going to be away for a week at most so id just like to say id appreciate if this moved to vote relatively soon, assuming no errors are found.
    Although it will of course require the necessary support, tBP not being a civitate at the moment. His support would count if this were moved to a vote as he has been demoted for a month. Correct?

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    Hmm yes i suppose thats right, ive listed Aemilianus as a supporter in place of tBP
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    Makes sense, it simplifies and cuts the thing down, and given that all the procedures are already effectively the same...

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    folks,

    just a suggestion but it might be worth chnaging the section as follows:


    Moderators and Network administrators (Staff):
    Tribounos (Quaestor) - Magistrate
    The Basileus has full powers to hire or fire Tribounos at will but, while retaining this power, normally delegates the elections of them to the Curia. Tribounos are voted into their position by the Curia as per the "Curial Elections" section of the Syntagma. The total number of Tribounos, their assignments and powers are set by the Basileus and the Basileus can fire them at will.


    this change would make it clear that the Basileus retains the right to appoint Tribunous without going to election. Now, before anyone gets all excited about this.....

    • Firstly, the Basileus has the right to appoint anyway
    • Secondly, the place where I would see it being extremelly useful is where we want to appoint 'techy' Tribunous into the TW side of the site who have very little presence in the Curia.


    what do people think?
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    Marvellous.

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    Yes, I supposrt this bill.
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    Supported, with Tac's addition too.

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    I agree, ill edit in that change now
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