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    At this moment my photobucket album isn't working for some reason, so I can only tell this much:

    A number of provinces will be shifted or changed in size - the best examples are Switzerland (expanded) and Savoy (will cover the entire western part of Italy) and 10 of them will be removed and replaced with new ones.

    New provinces:

    - Azores

    - Holland

    - Luxemburg

    - Rheinland

    - Munster-Oldenburg

    - Jutland

    - Royal Hungary

    - Eastern Prussia

    - Courland

    -Dalmatia



    removed:

    -Murcia,

    - Lesser Armenia, Antioch, Tripoli, Edessa, Mesopotamia, Sinai,

    - Libya, Arabia, Algavre,


    Middle East will lose a lot, but it is not really important for that period, the drawback is that Persian-Ottoman wars will be really quick and devastating, but central europe requires more space - especially in Germany.




    The nomadic camps will be used to recreate nomadic character of certain armies - they will allow recruitment of certain, usually already present units far away from the original zone of recruitment (which will still be present) effectively ignoring those altogether.

    These will be available to a number of faction as easy to build and rebuild, but limited in number to one-two per faction.

    It should also help to keep certain factions alive even if far away from their original homeland.




    American units
    - will be present, but only in MP mode - musch like present Uzbek, African and Iroquis units and factions. I am still not sure how many and which ones exactly I can safely add to the game. That question will be addressed in the coming days.
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    Take your time, man. And take some time off before any (potential) PM2 might start work. Potential meaning, if I was you, I'd just let it go. Or as someone said at the org... (I'm Wlady IV) This truely is the EB of MTW VI

    And if there is a PM2, Empire covers your time (well sort of). So MII would get a PM2, and I think your clear for like the next decade.
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    Alright. But try to keep Mesopotamia and Arabia in, those are very important regions. And I don't think Jutland and Dalmatia have been provinces since the Dark Ages. And honestly, Luxemburg? I'm for this region swapping but then make it regions that had significance at that time. Like Sachsen-Anhalt or divide Serbia into smaller parts. Not to force you or anything but the Persians and Turks are already not that strong, economically wise. Persia gets in a civil the first turn in pretty much all of my campaigns and the Turks lose their Balcan provinces pretty fast to the Habsburgs and have to use their Near-Asian provinces for backup.

    And is there any chance of new factions being added? Like Prussia?
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Alright. But try to keep Mesopotamia and Arabia in, those are very important regions.
    Impossible in both cases.

    And I don't think Jutland and Dalmatia have been provinces since the Dark Ages.
    Jutland is necessary, because I am moving most of Danish resources to the islands in the Baltic Seas - so will not get attacked too easily.

    Dalmatia is important to provoke Ottoman-Venetian conflict giving the Ottomans more to worry about.



    And honestly, Luxemburg?
    Yes, will serve as second Spanish owned region together with Flandres.


    Like Sachsen-Anhalt or divide Serbia into smaller parts.
    Serbia ? What for ?


    Not to force you or anything but the Persians and Turks are already not that strong, economically wise.
    THey will be compensated in two ways - greater income in the remaining regions they will have and larger units than European faction (in most cases).



    Persia gets in a civil the first turn in pretty much all of my campaigns
    Exactly as planned.

    and the Turks lose their Balcan provinces pretty fast to the Habsburgs and have to use their Near-Asian provinces for backup.
    That is more unexpectable - in most games (at least on expert) the Ottomans prove to be extremely dangerous.
    And is there any chance of new factions being added? Like Prussia?
    Brandenburg is already there - Prussia (as Teutonic Order) was not independent except during the timeframe of the first campaign, but Livonian Condederacy lived longer anyway.




    There will be three new campaigns - one on the main european map (starting in 1619).

    New factions in that particular campaign: Munster, Bohemia, Pommern, Courland, Palatinate, Ragusa + a number of better known factions present in other campaigns such as Persia or Scotland.
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    WOW. You sure do miss alot when you leave for two lousy hours

    Even since I had my comp reconfigured, I haven't put this back on. Maybe it's about time...

    ONE QUESTION: can 2.0 be installed over 1.5, or has too much changed?
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    2.0 will be a full install - no patches will be necessary and for sure will include all the files which are used by the mod (except video and music available in seperate installs - simply those are too large) so the answer is YES.

    Of course campaigns started on 1.5 will not work with 2.0 - mostly because the unit files will be seriously modified - number of military and non military units will be doubled in most of campaigns.
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    Darn, it so the awesome Swedish campaign is gone...

    To be honest I haven't played the Ottoman's, though I will be dieing to try out France in 2.0!

    And did you say there's THREE campaigns! I count Grand, ECW and...

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    Keep up the great work Cegorach ,, your mod will be special !!! Im looking forward to it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by warluster View Post
    Darn, it so the awesome Swedish campaign is gone...

    To be honest I haven't played the Ottoman's, though I will be dieing to try out France in 2.0!

    And did you say there's THREE campaigns! I count Grand, ECW and...
    Why ? It starts in 1619, but it doesn't matter it is gone. In fact how could I add Bohemia wwithout starting in 1619 ? That was my idea from the beginning...

    Yes, three new campaigns so 6 overall...
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    Are the three new campaigns still use the MTW europe map or do they focus on a special region?
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Are the three new campaigns still use the MTW europe map or do they focus on a special region?
    Umzer, I think the entire map of Europe. The "special region" of the ECW campaign iirc is the VI map for the VI campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaul View Post
    Umzer, I think the entire map of Europe. The "special region" of the ECW campaign iirc is the VI map for the VI campaign.
    I'm talking about the new ones.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    One new campaign will be played on the european map, two new campaigns will be dealing with certain events in the British Isles.
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    Two Campaigns on the British Isles........... Is the second the Armada because that is a very Interesting hypothetical campaign with the English having a Stong navy but weak Army and The Spanish having a strong Army but having to get it to England in the first place. :hmmm:

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    Yep, Armada, but it managed to land and it has to be stopped.
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    Hey Ceg! Can you please release at least one of the new campaigns? Its been so long.

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    I am waiting for the new campaign map - I will receive that after the holiday break (I am way anyway...) - so I am planing the final release for January.
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    Pfftt January (takes advantage of your good mood) You act as if it is one year. And I'm having problems again with my GForce 5500 and the past 3 or 4 video drivers. And any game/mod with the papacy seems to CTD. Anyone know the last one that didn't have this problem? I can get it at gamershell if you tell me the version #.
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    So just to summarise, how many campaigns are included in 1.5 and it's patch? I'm getting confused between 1.5 and the mysterious beast 2.0

    EDIT: And the patch download is broken
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    The campaigns in 1.5 are the years:
    1492
    1572
    1650

    Some have diffrent starting nations and ALL have diffrent units.

    In 2.0 cegorach has said that so far there is 3 more camapaigns:
    English Civil War
    Spanish Armada (But has landed)
    Don't know it yet (But I think its another Grand Camapaign)

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