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    I believe the death toll is 49 thus far.

    I doubt 49 people have even watched the stupid video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsktrogdor View Post
    You say that, then immediately afterwards write a lengthy paragraph describing how you think a coordinated effort to make fun of a dead guy from several hundred years ago would cause the muslim world to fall into chaos. Erupting into senseless mass rioting, mass murder, open warfare, cataclysmic destruction of property and a total breakdown of international relations.

    If it's nonsense why does your opinion reinforce it?
    My grievances with the "overly-sensitive Muslim sense of Blasphemy" is that it doesn't even make any sense grammatically, and that it's a generalization. How many embassies were attacked? I don't know, plenty, but how many Muslims were actually part of the rioting? A tiny tiny minority. You're choosing to blind yourself if you really believe that the rioting would purely be because of the blasphemous nature of the film. If the American government had endorsed it, and advertised it globally, what message does that send to the Islamic world? It would be a message of hate and indifference towards the wishes of the Muslim community, and it would no longer be solely a religious issue. If the US government would come out and say that it fully supports an Israeli annexation of the West bank, the response would be the same. If the US government helped suppress the Arab spring, the response would be the same. If the US organized a massive anti-Arab rally in Washington where they burn all sorts of different flags, you guessed it, the response would be the same. The same goes any political action and diplomatic blunders that would run contrary to the collective wishes and demands of the Islamic world, again, this isn't just about blasphemy.
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    Push to call blasphemy a crime

    September 23, 2012

    Hannah Allam



    Pushing for limits to free speech ... UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-Moon. Photo: Nick Moir

    THE divide in world opinion over what constitutes free speech will be on display again this week at the United Nations, where arguments over a proposed blasphemy law were an annual feature for a decade.
    This time it is the global reaction to a YouTube video that disparages Islam's prophet Muhammad that is sure to roil the meeting of the UN General Assembly.
    Muslim leaders have vowed to discuss the offensive video from their UN platforms, sowing concern among free-speech activists of a fresh push toward an international law that would criminalise blasphemy. Human rights groups and Western democracies resisted such a law for years and thought they had finally quashed the matter after convincing enough nations that repressive regimes used blasphemy laws to imprison or execute dissidents.
    ''I expect that we'll regress to where we were a couple of years ago,'' said Courtney Radsch, program manager for the Global Freedom of Expression Campaign at the non-profit group Freedom House.
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    ''Human rights are not about protecting religions; human rights are to protect humans,'' she said. ''Who is going to be the decision-maker on deciding what blasphemy is?''
    At one end of the spectrum is France, where a magazine on Wednesday published cartoons of Muhammad as a naked, cowering man to underscore a point that even the most offensive expression should be protected.
    At the other end of the spectrum is the UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon, who disappointed many free-speech activists last week by suggesting limitations to freedom of speech when it was ''used to provoke or humiliate''.
    For years the Organisation of Islamic Co-operation, a 57-member bloc of countries, has proposed a resolution criminalising the defamation of religion. By last year free-speech proponents had persuaded so many countries to ditch the cause that no new defamation-of-religion resolution was proposed.
    Now, Turkey heads the Organisation and the Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has said he would raise the topic in New York next week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    Push to call blasphemy a crime

    September 23, 2012

    Hannah Allam



    Pushing for limits to free speech ... UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-Moon. Photo: Nick Moir

    THE divide in world opinion over what constitutes free speech will be on display again this week at the United Nations, where arguments over a proposed blasphemy law were an annual feature for a decade.
    This time it is the global reaction to a YouTube video that disparages Islam's prophet Muhammad that is sure to roil the meeting of the UN General Assembly.
    Muslim leaders have vowed to discuss the offensive video from their UN platforms, sowing concern among free-speech activists of a fresh push toward an international law that would criminalise blasphemy. Human rights groups and Western democracies resisted such a law for years and thought they had finally quashed the matter after convincing enough nations that repressive regimes used blasphemy laws to imprison or execute dissidents.
    ''I expect that we'll regress to where we were a couple of years ago,'' said Courtney Radsch, program manager for the Global Freedom of Expression Campaign at the non-profit group Freedom House.
    Advertisement
    ''Human rights are not about protecting religions; human rights are to protect humans,'' she said. ''Who is going to be the decision-maker on deciding what blasphemy is?''
    At one end of the spectrum is France, where a magazine on Wednesday published cartoons of Muhammad as a naked, cowering man to underscore a point that even the most offensive expression should be protected.
    At the other end of the spectrum is the UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon, who disappointed many free-speech activists last week by suggesting limitations to freedom of speech when it was ''used to provoke or humiliate''.
    For years the Organisation of Islamic Co-operation, a 57-member bloc of countries, has proposed a resolution criminalising the defamation of religion. By last year free-speech proponents had persuaded so many countries to ditch the cause that no new defamation-of-religion resolution was proposed.
    Now, Turkey heads the Organisation and the Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has said he would raise the topic in New York next week.


    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/push-to-...#ixzz27MvCDWXN
    Not going to happen, and if it ever did, we will start seeing far bigger protests on western streets, and lots more blasphemy.
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    It's a purely idiotic idea that has no grasp in reality. It would simply hurt the Western image more, alienating even the moderate majority and enforce the radical claims of Western crusade against Islam, helping radical groups to recruit more people to plan violent attacks.
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