[Preview] Units

[Caligula Caesar]

My marathon effort to make unit cards left me with a nice big group of cutout screenshots to post on the forum Most of these units have been worked on by me in some way, though usually it was something along the lines of mixing something from one unit with something from another, or changing colours, or perhaps adding a new shield. The original units are from RTR, AqD's mod, and RSII, and BoomS made the elephants and chariots

Armenian Cataphracts



Armenian Heavy Infantry



Attalid Toxotai



Bactrian War Elephant



Bactrian Phalangites



Bactrian Agema



Bactrian Hetairoi



Bactrian Peltasts



Bactrian Xystophoroi



Bosporan Heavy Infantry



Getic Late Swordsmen



Greek (Minifaction) Hippeis



Greek (Minifaction) Peltasts



Greek (Minifaction) Phalangite



Hellenistic War Elephant



Horoli Cavalry (Caucasian Iberians)



Kushite Spearmen



Roman Leves + Revolutionary Unit



Egyptian Machimoi Phalangite



Mauryan Heavy Chariot



Mauryan Elephant



Mauryan Armoured Elephant



Median Cavalry



Median Infantry



Parthian Cataphract



Parthian Horse Archer



Parthian Skirmisher



Persian Phalangite



Persian Skirmisher (I brightened this somewhat for the unit cards)



Pontic Hetairoi



Pontic Ekdromoi Hoplitai



Pontic Phalangite



Pontic Thureophoroi



Ptolemaic Hetairoi



Ptolemaic Toxotai



Ptolemaic Peltasts



Ptolemaic Thorakitai



Ptolemaic Xystophoroi



Seleucid General



Seleucid Hetairoi



Seleucid Ekdromoi



Seleucid Hypaspist



Seleucid Thureophoroi



Syrian Armoured Elephant



Syrian Infantry



Steppe General

[Mirionis9]

Awesome units. The hetairoi are always my preferable unit. Keep up the good work!!!

[Antiokhos Euergetes]

Awesome units. The hetairoi are always my preferable unit. Keep up the good work!!!

It is released go campaign

[demagogos nicator]

Amazing job CC. I like especialy the Hetairoi in all their versions
Btw. are not four archers just too much for poor armoured elephant?

[Caligula Caesar]

With all that heavy armour, not to mention a tower on top, what are a few more kilograms?

[Stath's]

Too too too too beautiful!!!!

[tomySVK]

Great units

[Visarion]

amazing!

[demagogos nicator]

Why the crew of the Syrian Armoured Elephant have been changed since the War Elephants preview? I like the RTRPE armoured crew much more.

Btw. I relly love how you made skins of some Ptolemaic/Seleucid/Bactrian (most notably hetairoi) units darker like their greek/macedon counterparts

From which mod are the cataphract model you are using? It is totaly unfamiar to me.

[Caligula Caesar]

Yeah, I tried to reflect their geography with their skin colours. I've often seen pale skin colours (a la the Brits) where they would soon become very very red without sun tan cream! In fact, I even saw that in a screenshot of Carthaginians in R2TW and had to laugh

With the cataphracts, if you mean the horse, it's RSII, whilst the soldier is from AqD's mod.

Point taken about the Syrian elephant, I think those were put up as a placeholder. In any case, I'll put up some Syrian Archers.

[Caligula Caesar]

Also, I noticed that things are a bit crowded in the tower on the Syrian, and decided to cut it down to three and move them around a bit (some had their arms and legs sticking through the wall). That led me to look at the other elephants, and I noticed that the archer on the African elephant was bugged (he was standing inside the elephant!) and fixed that. I also tweaked the normal towered elephant so the soldiers stand one in front of the other instead of one behind.

[demagogos nicator]

With the cataphracts, if you mean the horse, it's RSII, whilst the soldier is from AqD's mod.

I have ment the soldier. They look quite good but must say original RTR 6 eastern cataphracts are in my opinion still best looking catas I have ever seen in any RTW mod despite the lower resolution (same go for their heavy Sarmatians).

Also, I noticed that things are a bit crowded in the tower on the Syrian, and decided to cut it down to three and move them around a bit (some had their arms and legs sticking through the wall). That led me to look at the other elephants, and I noticed that the archer on the African elephant was bugged (he was standing inside the elephant!) and fixed that. I also tweaked the normal towered elephant so the soldiers stand one in front of the other instead of one behind.

Great job! I appreciete how much care and effort is dedicated in this mod to the elephants and other things that are in other mods set aside as unimportat details.

Btw. Pontic phalangite with the scale armour is amazing

[Caligula Caesar]

Thanks

Actually now that I think of it, I actually have three cataphract models. One is the cataphract soldiers were made for RTR7 but never used, and now filling the space of the normal Steppe, Armenian and Parthian cataphracts. It is the one you can see in the pictures above. Then there is an RSII one, which is used for another (elite) Armenian cat, and a Caucasian Iberian cat. The AqD one is actually only used for Sarmatia (the general unit I think, but not the general shown above, who is the individual rather than the unit).

If you're wondering where the patch that I promised is, the need to correct some bugs slowed me down, so as a consequence I still have a couple of elephants and a chariot unit to balance from the eastern Greeks

[Antiokhos Euergetes]

I shall be waiting... patiently

[demagogos nicator]

No need to hury, well balanced mod is a good mod

[demagogos nicator]

Do not want to nit-picking to much and also do not have enough knoweladge on this matter but did really Sarmatians used metal horse-armour in this timeframe, Would not be the horsearmour of organic materials more accurate?

Btw. Any chance you know why the new Ekdromoi Hoplitai units which were made for RTR VII wear sandals while original RTR7 unit which is now AoR Ekdormoi Hoplitai in VII and your Ekdromoi units do have boots?

[Caligula Caesar]

I honestly have no idea. I assume it is attested in sources, but I can't remember having read anything specific - except for something absurd (probably in Herodotus) about Massagetae using gold instead of iron for everything because there was a lot of gold and no iron in their lands!

On your second point, I don't know either. I'm pretty sure that hasn't been changed since I have been at RTR, so to hazard a guess, maybe the original artist made two versions and the one with sandals got lost? (Models getting lost happened between the planned RTR7 and the RTR-VII franchise...)

[demagogos nicator]

On your second point, I don't know either. I'm pretty sure that hasn't been changed since I have been at RTR, so to hazard a guess, maybe the original artist made two versions and the one with sandals got lost? (Models getting lost happened between the planned RTR7 and the RTR-VII franchise...)

I think you did not get my point right. The unit is still there as it was. However, when somebody (you or Tony) was making faction specific skins for roman ekdromoi, he gave the sandals to the new units while the old one was left in game as AoR with boots. All I wanted to ask is whether there was any historical reason in giving the sandals to the new units instead of boots. Anyway, sorry for this pointles and offtopic discusion

[Caligula Caesar]

I'm not sure I get why there would be a historical reason for or against sandals

[demagogos nicator]

IIRC, I have read something about boots in some EB description. It was something like that they stated to replace sandals in the Greek armies in the helenistic period due to Thracian influence on Macedonians and Macedonian influence on Greeks. So I thought that there may be some connection with those Ekdromoi units..