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    Default Re: [Heišinn Vešr] General Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Meelis13 View Post
    In any case, while i do think it would be great faction, i also am starting to feel, like focus of the mod starts to shift way too much west- i mean british isles are having tons of factions already. for that reason, i'd like to see at least one more viking faction
    but that said, i still like the idea, so i wont be disappointed in any case
    Well it kinda is a western-centric mod to be honest, the Vikings mostly raided the British isles and northern Europe, so i think it is a good thing that we have most of the factions in the west.

    In my opinion the only reason we have the rest of the map is 1. to make it different from all other mods (the first REAL dark age Europe mod) and 2. So my glorious Danish raiders can sail to Constantinople and sack the city of the worlds desire haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLIP99 View Post
    In my opinion the only reason we have the rest of the map is 1. to make it different from all other mods (the first REAL dark age Europe mod) and 2. So my glorious Danish raiders can sail to Constantinople and sack the city of the worlds desire haha
    I don't think it was Danish vikings who besieged Constantinople. The Varyags that settled in Rus land and attacked Constantinople were of Swedish origin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian_Noble View Post
    I don't think it was Danish vikings who besieged Constantinople. The Varyags that settled in Rus land and attacked Constantinople were of Swedish origin.
    Uh.... Yes I know the swedes were the ones to attack Constantinople, if you read my post carefully though you would note i said MY danes, as in i want to play the danes and sack Constantinople

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    Default Re: Heišinn Vešr - 'Caedmon manuscript', c.1000

    Quote Originally Posted by druzhina345 View Post
    An Anglo-Saxon drawing from the 'Caedmon manuscript', c.1000

    Eber and his men drive cattle and found a city & a large image

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    Icon3 [Heišinn Vešr] General Discussion - Byzantium/East Romans

    Skylitzes Chronicle, Made in Byzantine Italy c.12th Century


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    f10v Michael I Rhangabe proclaims Leo V the Armenian as co-emperor. Both step onto the shield which was raised aloft and saluted by trumpeters & high officials. The ceremony of raising the shield dates from the Roman Empire.
    f32v A miniature illustrating the siege of Constantinople. The troops of Thomas attack the walls at Blachernae.
    f42v Theophilus making a proclamation. He is flanked by his bodyguard who are bare-headed. Ranks of officials are distinguished by their headgear. The Emperor's Varangian Guard was made up of foreigners - Germans, Franks, Russians, English, Vikings.
    f32v A miniature illustrating the siege of Constantinople.
    f43v Theophilus with his bodyguard outside the church of Blachernae, dispensing justice to a widow who has approached him with a complaint. Two priests look on from the church door.
    f54v A battle that took place in AD 842 between the cavalry of the Byzantines and the Arabs.
    f99 The foot soldiers of Emperor Basil I, distinguished by their long shields, deserting their general in the face of hostile Arab forces who carry round shields. The Byzantine general, Procopius, is killed.
    f100 The enthroned emperor Basil accepts tribute from the general Leon but, because of Leon's behaviour towards Procopius, he is arrested by two soldiers.
    f148 An ambassador of the Bulgar king Simeon is received by the Arab king Phatlum in Africa.
    f199 The blinding of Prousianos for plotting against the emperor. At right the enthroned emperor pronounces the sentence, the execution of which is the subject of the central part of the miniature. At left, the mother of Prousianos is expelled from the palace.
    f212v Arab camp near Edressa & the banquet given by the governor for the chiefs. Arab warriors are hidden in the chests offered to the iban.
    f213v Denounced together with John, brother of the emperor, Maniakes is escorted by soldiers to Constantinople. His hands are chained.
    f212v The Arab plot against the Byzantine governor of Edressa. Arab warriors are hidden in the chests offered to the iban, but the plot resulted in the killing of 2000 Arab warriors in the chests.
    f213v Denounced together with John, brother of the emperor, Maniakes is escorted by soldiers to Constantinople. His hands are chained.
    f214 The Muslims besieging the Byzantine city of Messina in Sicily which they captured in 842-3.
    f217 The Bulgars are besieging Thessaloniki and their leader Deleanos receives a fellow commander in his tent. The tented camp of the Bulgar army can be seen to the right.
    f217v The Bulgar leader Alausonius receiving Deleanos in his palace and gouging out the eyes of his rival.
    f217 An episode of the siege of Thessaloniki by the Bulgars. Byzantine forces are making a sortie from the gates of the city putting the Bulgar horsemen to flight. Trumpeters on the walls signal the attack.
    f217v The final defeat of the Bulgars by Michael IV the Paphlagonian who is seated on his throne. The Bulgars put up a wooden palisade near Prilep which is seen here between the two groups of soldiers but the Byzantine forces broke it down.
    f220v The uprising of the people of Constantinople against Michael Kalaphate. At the left is the palace and the defenders of the king who fire arrows through the window at the crowd.
    f222 A detail depicting a Byzantine dromond with three banks of oars.
    f222v Top. Zoe and Constantine cross the Bosphorous in an imperial boat to be received in front of a palace by two dignitaries.
    f222v Bottom. The official marriage and coronation of Constantine IX Monomachus and Zoe in the basilica of Basil I.
    f234v A battle between the cavalry of the Byzantines and the Seljuks.


    Illustrations from Skylitzes Chronicle are referenced in Byzantine Armies 886-1118 by Ian Heath & Angus McBride
    f12r lower, Battle between Byzantine Emperor Michael I Rangabe and Bulgarian Khan Krum
    f26v upper, The execution of an Anti-Emperor, Varangians in the background
    f34v lower, Greek Fire in a Naval Battle
    f59v, The Siege of Amorium by the Arabs in 838
    f73v upper, Battle at Lalakaon and death of Amer
    f195v, Basil II's victory over the Abasgians in 1002

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    Wonderful pictures again my friend can you find any from Lombard Italy? If so that would be wonderful

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    Default Re: [Heišinn Vešr] General Discussion

    Hello guys, how is your great work going? Looking forward to see more of this mod?

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    Default Re: [Heišinn Vešr] General Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by demagogos nicator View Post
    Hello guys, how is your great work going? Looking forward to see more of this mod?
    Hey mate - work is going sort of slow. I have a preview just about ready to post and was waiting on our 2D artist but unfortunately he has not been active lately so once I am back home I will post the New preview.

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    Wonderful! thank you kind sir

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    I was browsing the hosted mods forum and found this. It seems interesting, though I don't know if it's still being worked on.

    There's just one thing; as a speaker of Old Norse I have to take exception to the title. 'Vešr' means 'Weather' or 'Wind', or even 'Wether' (as in a castrated sheep), but we'll assume that's not what you meant. I checked all three Old Norse dictionaries I have and none listed 'Vešr' as meaning 'Storm' in either West or East dialects, or even in Gutnish. The correct translation of 'Storm' is 'Stormr'. 'Hriš' is exceptable, but usually only used in compound words.

    Anyway, good luck with the mod. I've always had an interest in vķkingarnir ok heišnir menn.

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    Default Re: [Heišinn Vešr] General Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Docm30 View Post
    I was browsing the hosted mods forum and found this. It seems interesting, though I don't know if it's still being worked on.

    There's just one thing; as a speaker of Old Norse I have to take exception to the title. 'Vešr' means 'Weather' or 'Wind', or even 'Wether' (as in a castrated sheep), but we'll assume that's not what you meant. I checked all three Old Norse dictionaries I have and none listed 'Vešr' as meaning 'Storm' in either West or East dialects, or even in Gutnish. The correct translation of 'Storm' is 'Stormr'. 'Hriš' is exceptable, but usually only used in compound words.

    Anyway, good luck with the mod. I've always had an interest in vķkingarnir ok heišnir menn.
    Hello mate! The mod is, in fact, still being worked on. I am working on finishing a preview so hopefully soon there will be one.

    Hmm, strange... The University of York Old Norse dictionary (clicky) says that Hriš or Vešr both translate to storm... Although "heathen wind" kind of sounds cool

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    Hmm. I've heard English speakers use Weather to mean Storm, so it's not inconceivable that speakers of Old Norse may have done the same, but I can't say I've ever read it. Very curious that that dictionary doesn't contain the word 'Stormr' considering it's so closely related to the English word (both being derived from the Proto-German 'Sturmaz') and is the most common word for 'Storm' in the Sagas.

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    Default Re: [Heišinn Vešr] General Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Docm30 View Post
    Hmm. I've heard English speakers use Weather to mean Storm, so it's not inconceivable that speakers of Old Norse may have done the same, but I can't say I've ever read it. Very curious that that dictionary doesn't contain the word 'Stormr' considering it's so closely related to the English word (both being derived from the Proto-German 'Sturmaz') and is the most common word for 'Storm' in the Sagas.
    Very curious indeed

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