The battle of the Damiyos(And Ashikaga attacking itself...)

**downbook** · September 14, 2012, 09:09 AM

Hi everyone, I am not sure if this had done before but...

Can anyone figure out from looking at that and figure out what is going on and which clan I am playing?

Note: This is done on normal playthrough of the game

**Adreno** · September 14, 2012, 09:36 AM

probably tokugawa

**downbook** · September 14, 2012, 09:41 AM

Really should've make it a bit harder to guess...

**Erwin Rommel** · September 14, 2012, 10:46 AM

Who cares about guessing.

You managed to have the Demon King Nobunaga, old man Ujiyasu, and the Kengo Shogun Yoshiteru, the 13th Ashikaga shogun in the same battlefield. In Kyoto no less.

Thats absolutely friggin awesome!

(not to mention Yoshiteru should have been dead 20 years ago.)

**downbook** · September 14, 2012, 11:58 AM

And Oda 4 years ago, though he did die in this battle...

But that is not all, behold!

Within my holdings are...

Oda Nobunaga
Imagawa Yoshimoto
Shimouzma Nakayuki
Takeda Shigen
Shimazu Yoshihisa
Date Terumune
Chosokabe Motochika
Ashikaga Yoshiharu
Ashikaga Yoshiaki
Ashikaga Yoshiteru

With restriction to 4 armies joining on one side of battle can only show that many... in the first screenshot... and sadly Damiyos lose their original starting face and armour when joining my side

When my friend saw I had that many generals, he gave a great idea to send them all to attacking Kyoto with only Siege units for support

**Erwin Rommel** · September 14, 2012, 12:13 PM

Wow, and who was the great metsuke who managed to convince all this men to switch sides? This more epic than Hideyoshi's three attempts to convince Hanbei.

**downbook** · September 14, 2012, 12:17 PM

He is right here:

**eXistenZ** · September 15, 2012, 10:23 AM

congratulations on getting that many generals to your side. i always have a chronic shortage of them once it gets to midgame. How did you manage to get that high loyalty of all of them? i know a 6honour daimyo gives +2, and there are some arts which improve it (which i almost never research, cause iinvest the time in economic/military techs). dont the old generals get "upstart generals" when you bribe a new one?

In my latest Taira campaign i disinherited an heir when he was underage. -3 loyalty when he was of age :p never gonna do that again

**downbook** · September 15, 2012, 12:45 PM

Well this guide helped me quite a bit on General Loyalty:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=468677

My starting Damiyo had really bad honor, which has a really bad affect on all my generals, so I had to keep some Metsuke on some generals(+1 Loyalty)

Then come my new Damiyo with 6 honor, which according to this guide give max +4 honor

New generals might just get -1 honor for rest of them max

**eXistenZ** · September 18, 2012, 02:33 PM

yeah ive noticed it now: im playing a rise of the samurai campaign, and when i requested the allegiance of a province i got the daymio too. he only has -1 for disloyal tendecies, but my first general (that i had from the start of the game), didnt get "upstart generals". So i think that "upstart generals" only comes when promoing/enlisting a new general.

**lawandorder82** · September 28, 2012, 04:02 AM

What level metsuke

**zhiphius** · September 28, 2012, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by lawandorder82

What level metsuke

to effectily bribe you'll need a rank 4 metsuke. (rank 3 grants access to the bribe talent, rank 4 allows you max it out). granted with all that bribing he probably had rank 6 metsuke =) they aint that hard getting. (considering tsuruga? got a school which if correctly upgraded grants rank 3 metsuke's of the bat.)

nice work getting all the ol geezers in your army dude

**downbook** · September 30, 2012, 12:50 PM

Had a bunch of Metsuke going around, as well as bunch of ninjas needed to pin down targets to bribe... As Damiyo cannot be bribed, therefore had to make sure they are pinned within their last territory then take it over, otherwise the army would be gone..

Came up with the idea of doing it when I was doing Takeda Campaign

Keeping the Damiyo in his last territory:
http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/n...8-17_00004.jpg
Take over the territory:
http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/n...8-17_00006.jpg
Then bribe:
http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/n...8-17_00008.jpg