Export_Descr_unit and descr_model_battle

[solar_power]

I am modifying rome total war and I am wondering why I am constantly getting soilder not found in descr_model_battle errors. Why is it that if i use my own name in the bold part it never works.

ORIGINAL
type roman velite
dictionary roman_velite ; Velites
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_velite, 40, 0, 0.8
mount_effect elephant +6, chariot +6
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hide_long_grass, can_sap
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 2, javelin, 50, 6, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr thrown
stat_sec 5, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 2, 3, 2, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 2, 0, 3, 0
stat_mental 4, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 270, 170, 30, 40, 270
ownership roman

Original info from descr_model_battle

type roman_velite
skeleton fs_fast_javelinman, fs_fast_dagger ; throwing spear/javelin & short sword
indiv_range 40
texture romans_julii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_julii.tga
texture romans_brutii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_brutii.tga
texture romans_scipii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_scipii.tga
texture romans_senate, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_senate.tga
texture slave, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_slave.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_high.cas, 8
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_med.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_low.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_lowest.cas, 40
model_sprite slave, 60.0, data/sprites/slave_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_senate, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_senate_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_scipii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_scipii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_brutii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_brutii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_julii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_julii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f




Why does this not work
type elite roman velite
dictionary elite_roman_velite ; Velites
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Light_1
soldier elite_firing_velites, 40, 0, 0.8
mount_effect elephant +6, chariot +6
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hide_long_grass, can_sap
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 2, javelin, 50, 6, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr thrown
stat_sec 5, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 2, 3, 2, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 2, 0, 3, 0
stat_mental 4, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 270, 170, 30, 40, 270
ownership roman

Why does this not work

type elite_firing_velites
skeleton fs_fast_javelinman, fs_fast_dagger ; throwing spear/javelin & short sword
indiv_range 40
texture romans_julii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_julii.tga
texture romans_brutii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_brutii.tga
texture romans_scipii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_scipii.tga
texture romans_senate, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_senate.tga
texture slave, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_slave.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_high.cas, 8
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_med.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_low.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_lowest.cas, 40
model_sprite slave, 60.0, data/sprites/slave_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_senate, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_senate_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_scipii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_scipii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_brutii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_brutii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_julii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_julii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f


I have spent weeks now and I am beginning to give up. I am begging for your help. I do not want to give up, but i am now at my witts end. I have gone back to 1.0 back to 1.5 and installed in so many different folders and backed up everything dozens of times. If I keep the soilder name the same like this....



This works

type elite roman velite
dictionary elite_roman_velite ; Velites
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_velite, 40, 0, 0.8
mount_effect elephant +6, chariot +6
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hide_long_grass, can_sap
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 2, javelin, 50, 6, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr thrown
stat_sec 5, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 2, 3, 2, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 2, 0, 3, 0
stat_mental 4, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 270, 170, 30, 40, 270
ownership roman


This works but now its the dictionary name that is making it work never my custom name.
type elite_roman_velite
skeleton fs_fast_javelinman, fs_fast_dagger ; throwing spear/javelin & short sword
indiv_range 40
texture romans_julii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_julii.tga
texture romans_brutii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_brutii.tga
texture romans_scipii, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_scipii.tga
texture romans_senate, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_senate.tga
texture slave, data/models_unit/textures/unit_roman_peasant_slave.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_high.cas, 8
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_med.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_low.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_roman_velite_lowest.cas, 40
model_sprite slave, 60.0, data/sprites/slave_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_senate, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_senate_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_scipii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_scipii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_brutii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_brutii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_sprite romans_julii, 60.0, data/sprites/romans_julii_roman_velite_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

I have even duplicated the cas. files and renamed them to elite_firing_velites_high low med ect.

What am I doing wrong.

I have now tried dozens of times on 1.0 1.3 and 1.5

Please help me modding gods.

[Narveid]

So let me get this straight. What you want to do, is to use the same model as the velites, just make them stronger?

[solar_power]

Hi. Thank you for replying

I used that just as an example of what is giving me problems. I cant add my own units, only create duplicate units with different type names and dictionary names to seperate them. As soon as I touch
the soldier details in the descr_model_battle I get a ctd unable to find soilder but the soldier is right there in the descr_model_battle file clear as day. I am loosing my hair.

[Narveid]

Well, if you are going to just use the same model as another unit already existing, you might aswell just stick to pointing to them in the Export_Descr_unit, as that will give the same result, no point in create a new unit description in descr_model_battle if you already got it there. However, if you are making your own models to use in the game, then it might be something wrong with the model you have made (no offense intended).

[solar_power]

None taken. Actually thank you for the idea, but its not that. I have now days later on this particular problem got it to sort of work. I just got it to work in 1.0 and i copied it over to 1.5 folder and now its working. I do not know what is going on this is insane. People who mod this game to the heights of xgm or roma surrectum or eb or all the other awesome ones must have the patience of saints.

[Narveid]

Huh, weird .. Oh well, congrats with making it work at least! Good job! (and yeah, they probably do XD)

[solar_power]

Hmmmmmmm,

I think a major problem is with windows 7 itself and its pesky double check and triple check user friendly system. I believe even though I was editing files it really wasnt overwriting somehow. Now I have versions installed in my documents where there is no protection system and it seems to have solved the problem.

Another part of the solution seems to be to fully remove using the 1.3 patch first and then erase all recycling bin items, turn of system restore save points and seek and destroy all temporary storage spots that windows uses to make your experience more stable and predictable.

Also..... your total war setups must be completely removed, many times mods leave folders behind, also I even switched my main folder from activsion to random names so windows couldnt possibly confuse it with my previous thousand RTW installs. My new installs are in my documents under rtw 1.5 folder and rtw 1.0 folder.

It seems somehow windows was saving maybe temp versions and not truly accepting my multiple and repeated edits..... also I paid the price for not restarting. Windows needs to be restarted I think with each and every single medium to large change to your file systems in any way. Every install restart every uninstall erase everything and restart then change main folder names and locations to new folder names and locations......

Just some very friendly advice.... please do everything and anything to your system with your own judgment and at your own risk and assume your own personal responsibility for your actions.

[Narveid]

Yeeeeeah, have to make sure everything is properly uninstalled everytime!

[odil987]

Well, it seems that there is a problem in text file. Did you add the title like this:

{elite_roman_velite} Roman Elite Velite

{elite_roman_velite_descr}
Expert at Hiding in Forests\nCan Sap\nExpert at Hiding in Long Grass\n\nRoman Elite Velites are much better than the other velites. They can aim better, and they can also hide in forests or long grass. They can also sap.

{elite_roman_velite_descr_short}
Elite Velites are supporting the heavy infantry in the battle, and they are very useful.

I have type a random text down. You have to wrtie down it's ability first, something like "Expert at Hiding in Forests\nCan Sap\nExpert at Hiding in Long Grass\n\n". After it, you should type in a random text like "Roman Elite Velites are much better than the other velites. They can aim better, and they can also hide in forests or long grass. They can also sap.". Then you should type down the short description what will appear in the custom battles like "Elite Velites are supporting the heavy infantry in the battle, and they are very useful.".

So that's all, if you have still got the problem, upload the files and I'll have a lookout what is wrong there.

[odil987]

Well, it seems that there is a problem in text file.
The problem is in text/export_units.txt
Did you add the title like this:

{elite_roman_velite} Roman Elite Velite

{elite_roman_velite_descr}
Expert at Hiding in Forests\nCan Sap\nExpert at Hiding in Long Grass\n\nRoman Elite Velites are much better than the other velites. They can aim better, and they can also hide in forests or long grass. They can also sap.

{elite_roman_velite_descr_short}
Elite Velites are supporting the heavy infantry in the battle, and they are very useful.

I have type a random text down. You have to wrtie down it's ability first, something like "Expert at Hiding in Forests\nCan Sap\nExpert at Hiding in Long Grass\n\n". After it, you should type in a random text like "Roman Elite Velites are much better than the other velites. They can aim better, and they can also hide in forests or long grass. They can also sap.". Then you should type down the short description what will appear in the custom battles like "Elite Velites are supporting the heavy infantry in the battle, and they are very useful.".

So that's all, if you have still got the problem, upload the files and I'll have a lookout what is wrong there.

[solar_power]

I got it to work, it just basically started working. Its a problem with windows 7. Once I installed my folders into my documents things ran much smoother. Windows 7 C:\Program Files (x86) folders are write protected and even overwriting wasnt truly solving the problem. By uninstalling everything and using additional programs to truly destroy all ares of my pc with temp files related to my previous rtw installs - then re-installing to non write protected folders seemed to solve the problem.

You may find me bugging you at some point for additional help... thats your fault for helping lol. jk

Thank you very much for replying.