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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis Baratheon View Post
    Sansa or Bran should bite it, and Benjen Stark should come back, with little side-book about his time beyond the Wall.
    As for Tyrells, i agree, Loras should die, Mace too, and Margaery could lose her trial and finish under Payne's sword to improve the dramatic atmosphere
    Payne is still in the Riverlands and I think he was replaced by Cersei after he left with Jaime.

    House Tyrell would probably get some bad times from GRRM. When you get that proud and ambitious you're bound to screw up.

    After Dragonstone I'd imagine Loras is less Knight of Flowers and more Knight of Horrors thanks to that oil.

    The Florents would be the obvious choice to replace the Tyrells but they're just as ambitious and proud so I wonder who could replace them. As a matter of fact I wonder which houses keep the title lord paramount or who replaces the ones that fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prophet1331 View Post

    The Florents would be the obvious choice to replace the Tyrells but they're just as ambitious and proud so I wonder who could replace them. As a matter of fact I wonder which houses keep the title lord paramount or who replaces the ones that fall.
    Well since they are exiled, Hightower seems like the more obvious choice, however obvious and GRRM does not match!


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    for Tyrells Willas and Garlan seem to be good guys, i don't mind Tyrells staying in the power as they're realistically by far the strongest house there and aren't as a whole that bad. And let's be honest, most Florents are idiots from what we saw of them for now and they shouldn't rule whole Reach. Of Hightowers we know too little.
    But Willas Tyrell as Lord of Highgarden and Reach? Sounds good!
    Originally Posted by martin616
    There is but one rightful king, King Stannis of House Baratheon the First of His name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.

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    Three eyed crow = Brynden Rivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis Baratheon View Post
    for Tyrells Willas and Garlan seem to be good guys, i don't mind Tyrells staying in the power as they're realistically by far the strongest house there and aren't as a whole that bad. And let's be honest, most Florents are idiots from what we saw of them for now and they shouldn't rule whole Reach. Of Hightowers we know too little.
    But Willas Tyrell as Lord of Highgarden and Reach? Sounds good!
    Look at it this way, if Stannis gets the throne, the Tyrells were allies of the rebel Renly, failed to declare to the true king, and married with the false children of Robert and laid siege to Stannis' castle, Storms end.

    If a Targaryen takes the throne, the Tyrells were allies of a rebel and married with two false kings, now being a royal family holding a claim to the throne they didn't deserve. The only ways House Tyrell will still be in power is if Tommen wins (unlikely) or the kingdoms break up into separate realms once more.

    Hightower would be nice but they seem to cautious to make any move for the Reach. And both Stannis and Aegon's new friends in the Golden Company have "friends" in the Reach. It wouldn't surprise me if the Osgreys from Dunk and Egg get the title.

    What are your opinions on the other kingdoms?

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    Dorne: no clue, seeing how the Martells will support Aegon against him.

    Reach: Florents if they survive or Hightower if they don't.

    Westerlands: Westerling maybe, because of their motto Honor not Honors.

    Riverlands: No Freys, no Littlefinger, and no Edmure as he supported a rebel so I'm thinking Blackwood or Mallister.

    Stormlands: One of Robert's bastards legitimized and bearing the Baratheon stag or Davos, why not.

    Vale: Harrold Hardyng if he doesn't rebel as Littlefinger wants or he'll lift some of those forgotten, disgraced Arryn merchants from Gulltown.

    North: Rickon Stark should he be found and rally the northmen for Stannis, or Manderly if not. I'm pretty sure he'll give allot of titles to the mountain clans, maybe even the Dreadfort for some of them.

    Iron Isles: I think he'll give them to Rodrik the Reader if he will go back into the king's peace, if not maybe he'll kill all the Ironborn and populate the isles with wildlings and let them have semi-independent fun.

    Dragonstone will go to Shireen's husband probably, and if they have a son he'll be the heir to the Iron Throne.


    Under Aegon:

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    Dorne: House Martell , who will become the most powerful of the new king's vassals getting the marches.

    Reach: One of the company's "friends". I'm pretty sure allot of the golden company will take lands and castles here as their own as it is the richest part of the kingdom (the Westerlands were touched by the war)

    Westerlands: Probably the Golden Company's leader or some other important figure from the company who knows how to get wealthy by using the gold mines.

    Stormlands: Connington obviously.

    Riverlands: It would be amusing to see the Freys trying to get Aegon's favor but I think he will give the land to whoever rises for him first.

    Vale: probably Grafton because of wealth and the fact that House Grafton stood for the Targaryens at the start of the war of the usurper.

    North: no idea.

    Iron Isles: no idea.
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    I highly doubt Aegon will rule in the end. Stannis I could see but one way or another I can't see Aegon living to the end.
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    @Prophet i agree most of what you said, however when news of Quentyn's death reach Doran he will very probably be very shaken and reluctant to do anything that has any risk at all. This will probably cause large difficulties in Dorne's declaring for Aegon.
    Lannisters? Under Aegon it could be perhaps Tommen, under Stannis... really no idea.
    Ironborn should be if not completely eradicated then at least properly exterminated as they continuosly rebel and pillage, and giving them independence would probably even increase the problem.
    I think Edmure could be pardoned, even by Stannis, practically everyone is formally rebel, and Tullys and Baratheons were allies in the War of Usurper.
    Also very nice idea about Osgreys, would be nice to see more of them!
    Originally Posted by martin616
    There is but one rightful king, King Stannis of House Baratheon the First of His name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prophet1331 View Post
    What are your opinions on the other kingdoms?
    I'm thinking its way too early to predict who gets what. Lots more people are going to die yet, we've already seen alliances can be broken and enemies can quickly become allies. Not to mention that pretty much everywhere apart from Dorne has been totally devasted by war, crops haven't been planted, food hasn't been stored up, the worst winter in generations is just starting, a winter that will last a generation - oh and a horde of the undead is about to arrive with no-one to stop them.

    The other kingdoms will go to whoever is left alive - assuming they don't become The Others Kingdoms, heh Remember Danys vision of the cold, empty throne room full of snow...
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    Victarion Greyjoy has got to make a return yet, I can see him taming the dragons and following her to the seven kingdoms, or wreaking havoc around the world, or taking the throne of the islands.

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    I am looking for the true meaning behind the story's title. We know Rhaegar tells Elia Aegon already has a song, the song of Ice and Fire. Obviously Rhaegar was well aware of prophecies, did he accurately predict the coming war that most of us believe to be the Song of Ice and Fire? Lucky guess by someone that was enamored with everything prophetic? This is arguably one of the biggest keys to the plot in the series, which i imagine will be revealed in WOW. I find it noteworthy that we haven't heard it mentioned by anyone else so how will it be revealed? Jon Con? Bloodraven? Quaithe?

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    Could be some prophecy, or it could refer to the struggle between R'hllor and the others. If you look at them like symbols you see fire (targaryen) and ice (stark) and it refers to the story of what these houses endure. But that would mean Martin doesn't care that much for Lannister, Tully or anyone else. It would be cleared out somewhere in the next book. My guess is that some big prophecy which is bigger than the Azhor Ashai thing.
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    I think it is literally the battle between the others and the dragon riders. That makes the most sense if it is literal. I feel like the Starks and Dany/Aegon will make ammends when the true story of the king's plan comes out. Barristan pointed out Ned pleaded for her life. And considering all those who participated are now dead it only makes sense considering the Starks are one of the more grounded families in the realm. I don't know how much old alliances will matter considering the Tyrells are pretty much running the place and i don't see them bending the knee now that they are in control, until the dragons come atleast. I think Azor is the three headed dragon i don't see how one man can have the power to defeat all the Others even if lightbringer exists. It makes more sense that the dragons are the lightbringers and AA are the dragon riders.

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    I have one more. What does Hodor mean? Didn't old Nan say his name was William or something? If it says somewhere in the book and I just forgot please point it out.
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    I'm pretty sure the books said that noone knows what it means or why he says it

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    Hodor means Walder, it's his true name.
    Originally Posted by martin616
    There is but one rightful king, King Stannis of House Baratheon the First of His name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.

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    Under the sea, with the fishes, i know, oh oh.
    Who knows? He could be caught by Freys, BwB, going to Howland Reed or gathering his own brotherhood.
    Originally Posted by martin616
    There is but one rightful king, King Stannis of House Baratheon the First of His name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm.

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    I really want to know when we will find out that Syrio Forel really is not dead, and returns to Kings Landing riding Hodor and taking the crown for himself.

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    Aegon will survive. Dragon has three heads, remember? It means there will be three Targaryen dragonriders.
    1. Daenerys (Azor Ahai reborn)
    2. Aegon
    3. Jon Targaryen (could also be Azor Ahai reborn)



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    Would we actually see some Reed soldiers or some more info on them? I'm wondering how come they are so religious when they are living in bogs, I can't picture weirwood trees growing in a marsh.
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