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    Default There will always be an England (quite literally)

    Well, I finally managed to catch the British off guard in my Europe campaign and bypassed the Royal Navy. I landed 2 stacks on Britain made of mostly elite units (Old Guard, Young Guard, Guard Seamen, Grenadiers a Cheval, etc.) It was La Grande Armee in all it's regal glory. Of course, even with Wellington in the way, my armies had no tough time capturing London. Everything was going according to plan. I got old Nappy up to Scotland and Ney over to Wales. It was just fantastic. The Brits had been causing me trouble all too long. I needed to wait to deal with them before I could march on Vienna or Berlin. So, it was amazing. I managed to get Napoleon back to France, but here begins the problem. Nelson was hot on my heels and caught up with my navy (in all it's very small glory). Of course, the Royal Navy had managed to capture the Spanish Santissima Trinidad and had several heavy ships (122 gunners, 106 gunners, etc.) and they pummeled and I mean absolutely steamrolled (literally, steam ships) my navy. Ney was stranded in Britain and my war machine needed to recover a bit. The next turn, I raised taxes to fund a new navy. Here's the primary problem that this article is about, the Brits just won't stop rebelling. Every rebellion spawns 2 and a half stacks (precisely 2 and a half) of British rebels. With Ney's relatively fresh force, I marched on the 3 armies and faced them all at once. I had some problems. I positioned my main line of fusiliers and skirmishers in the front and placed my Guard in the rear reserve line. The first army advanced at me and after about 10 minutes of skirmishing and some cavalry charges to keep them off my flanks, I had only made a dent in the first army. You see, they were proceeding more cautiously then I would have liked and then out of the blue, like Blucher arriving in Waterloo, the other army came up from my rear. I had no choice but to commit my Guard and then the enemy charged me. They were blasting me with cannons, all the while foot and highlanders were tearing up my main line. With some well aimed Grenadier a Cheval charges, I had routed them, but I had lost 3 units of fusiliers, my entire skirmishing force, the Grand Battery of the Convention, and 1 Grenadier a Cheval. I retreated Ney to Scotland. Within 3 turns 2 and a half more stacks spawned. It doesn't make sense. At least to my knowledge, I thought that when you put down a rebellion, it quelled unrest. Help me. I need some recommendations. I can't lose London to the Brits. They've caused me too much pain in this campaign for me to surrender to some meager militant peasants.

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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    Vive l'Empéreur !

    Oh wait....

    Sauve qui peut....

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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    1. PDGuru has a rebel mod that makes them less 'professional' lets say.
    2. Attack the rebels 1 by 1
    3. Bring a militia stack with dragoons if you want calvary for the garrison bonus.
    4. Land a fresh stack not neceserly with veteran units to soak up the most of the rebel attack
    5. Bring some gentlemen

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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    First of all, you must understand that these stacks spawn within reinforcing distance of each other. No matter what army I attack first, the others waltz in. Second of all, I don't have time to make a militia stack! Anyway, they're 2 and a half stacks of more professional troops would crush my militia. (Even with dragoons.) I'm tempted to bring a ton of marching bands. Third of all, methinks Soult and Murat are away in Italy and Greece, respectively.

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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    You misunderstand.

    2. Attack the rebels 1 by 1
    You are the defender. They have to come to you. Usually 1 by 1

    3. Bring a militia stack with dragoons if you want calvary for the garrison bonus.
    In the likely event you loose london when you retake it move this army in to prevent the rebellion. Dosent even need a general.

    I don't have time to make a militia stack!
    Paris has 5-6 recruitment slots. Not to mention every one of your provinces unless you have no buildings in them what so ever can recruit militia. Recruit one from every province. Call it the draft. Send them to Paris and you'll have an army in no time.

    Third of all, methinks Soult and Murat are away in Italy and Greece, respectively.
    Assuming Bernadotte and Messina are tied up in Prussia and Italy or dead you can always send one of them or recruit a general

    For my advice all I ask is for you to liberate my beloved Ireland, my friend

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    Well I followed your advice, but the unrest is too high.... I moved a stack of 15 militia coupled with 3 dragoons and 2 cuirassiers and the lower class unrest stays at -12 while the upper class unrest is at -5. The stacks kept on rolling in and I decided on one final plan. I destroyed every and I mean every building I could in England, Scotland, and Wales then abandoned Britain for now. I really did not want to do that because it just hinders my plan to use London as a large base of operations. Anyways, per your request, I liberated Ireland and handed over my conquests in Spain (Portugal, Madrid, Catalonia, Navarra, Gibraltar, and The Baleares.) So I am counting on Ireland being a helpful ally in the long run. Whenever I do that whole "liberate then give good territories" thing, my ally always sends support to whatever war I am fighting. (For example, in my Great Britain campaign, I liberated Britanny, gave them all of Spain besides Portugal (another loyal ally) and they sent decently rounded stacks to my war in Italy.

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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    When invading, send multiple stacks in one location to punch and steam roll the enemy. The will tend to keep stacks behind, divide and conqueror.

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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    I dont know if it due to tech or word of mouth but ive noticed later on in the campaign regions have less unrest when conquered. When i took Russia in my first campaign i believe the people were well in the green.

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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    You can try to use this mod to have less professional rebels, it should be easier to deal with them, and way more realistic

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    Well I told you what I did, I taught those people a lesson by burning the entire UK to the ground. Also I managed to get a decent navy and through tactics (tactics alone) I beat back Nelson's navy, capturing the Victory, the Santissima Trinidad, 3 122 gunners, 2 106 gunners (Victory included) and sunk the rest. Now, if I just patrol I shouldn't run into problems, considering Portsmouth is just a bunch of rubble now! Thanks for the advice. I don't quite want to install any mods for fear of losing my entire campaign progress. Does anyone know if the rebel mod is save game compatible?

    P.S. Bernadotte is toast after I sent him to Sweden.... He was bogged down by endless hordes of Danes and Swedes and Ruskis and Prussians.... It wasn't pretty. Also, Messina died somewhere in the Russian wasteland. I sent him to march on Moscow. I made the mistake of sending him in October. Assuming he would make it (I only wanted to hinder the Russian army by razing their capital.) I foolishly sent him. Turns out the Russians knew all along... They had three stacks sitting on the road to Moscow, each at some point along the road. Again, being about as stubborn as Napoleon himself, I pressed onwards with the battle against the final stack being a near disaster. Seeing the danger, I retreated into the Russian wastes and Messina ended up being tailed by the Russians. His army was near destroyed, with only a motley crew of high ranking veterans remaining. (6 chevrons or above) On the retreat to friendly territory, he was led into a trap, and made a valiant final stand. His army died without routing and in the end I charged his bodyguard into Bennigsen's bodyguard, killing Bennigsen but getting encircled by musketeers.... Let's just say I will never see bravery the likes of that ever again....
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    Default Re: There will always be an England (quite literally)

    Well destroying the trade ports means Britain is out of the game now. And the rebel mod is compatible with saves. All is does is changes the tables that tell the game what the rebels can and cannot spawn. All you have to do is drop it in your game folder.

    Also for your next campaign consider getting darthmod. Better smoke, Blood, free units that are well made, improved AI. Whats not to love?

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