Logs Not Logging?

[Agamemnon]

I want to do some descr_strat modding, and before I start moving region ownerships around I want to move all the armies over a bit so that there's no issues. However, when I move them and start the campaign I get a KTM, with no error log generated in the folder. I added the required line to preferences.cfg, I saved it, set it as read-only, etc. I even copied a mod's system.log into the logs folder so that it would overwrite and not necessarily regenerate. However, no matter what I do, the error logs don't exist - there's NOTHING in the logs folder when I try to check them.

[Gigantus]

Your mentioning of making the cfg file read-only makes me think that you are modding the unpacked game in ti's original folders. Not a good idea.
Use a basic mod set up like my Bare Geomod and transfer the files you want to mod there. It also provides a log setting in it's CFG file which places the log into the custom M2TW\logs folder.
In my experience there is a roughly 15% chance that a log will not get generated. Simply repeat your crash and check again for the log. The game deletes the old log when it starts, so a failure to generate will result in no log at all.

[Agamemnon]

All I wanted to do was create a small mod where the Pope owns practically all Christendom, as a sort of "what if the Roman Empire, instead of falling, became more and more Barbarian until they became essentially a Barbarian kingdom, but with a theocratic government under the Pope?" I was in fact modifying the vanilla files as when I tried to make a modfolder, even when the game was completely vanilla except being in a different folder, the game CTD'd on loading without even a "unspecified error" message. However, I will try your bare modfolder.

And I found in another thread a thing about logs and mods that Ishan wrote. I just copied his text into my preferences file, and it works like a charm. So far my game's working perfectly, but I will modfolder it.

EDIT: Confused by that. ATM I'm only working with the Vanilla map, and while I'd love Kingdoms features I don't (yet) want to add or remove regions, and I want all the vanilla stuff to be there, just a different starting position, HRE religion, and expanded.txt. What files need to be in the data folder for it to work? Just the stuff I changed, or all the vanilla files, or what?

EDIT2: It really doesn't help that I ran unpack_all.bat, but none of the Kingdoms campaigns seem to have unpacked...

[Gigantus]

Solving unpacking problems.
Basic mapping.
There are a good number of tutorials related to mapping in my 'Creating a World' link (signature).

[Agamemnon]

And once again I fixed my own problem while you were gone.

I've made my modfolder. Now I wanted to add a second Pope (in Denmark) and a Protestant religion. I've successfully added Protestantism, but adding Protestant buildings causes a CTD upon loading. Hmm... Also, the priests are cardinals, so I assume there is a Pope in Denmark, but there is no "pope" tab or "college of cardinals" button.

[Gigantus]

I think it is because you can have only one special faction - same with the rebels.
The crash with buildings might have to do with formatting or perhaps you didn't set up your religion correctly (descr_religion and text\religion) or it's a simple typo in those files or the EDB. There are some tutorials regarding new religions if memory serves right.

[Agamemnon]

1. Ah, alright then. Makes sense now, I'll set that back.
2. It's neither AFAIK, because I know the new religion works and the EDB is the only thing that causes a crash. Unfortunately, I've remade my buildings in EDB twice now, and it still doesn't work. I've also double-checked a million times. This is what I added to the bottom:

building temple_protestant
{
    convert_to temple_protestant_castle
    religion protestant
    levels small_church_p church_p abbey_p cathedral_p huge_cathedral_p 
    {
        small_church_p city requires factions { hre, denmark, england, } 
        {
            convert_to 0
            capability
            {
                agent priest  0  requires factions { hre, } 
                agent priest  0  requires factions { denmark, } 
                happiness_bonus bonus 1
                religion_level bonus 2
                agent_limit priest 1
            }
            material wooden
            construction  1 
            cost  800 
            settlement_min town
            upgrades
            {
                church_p
            }
        }
        church_p city requires factions { hre, denmark, england, } 
        {
            convert_to 1
            capability
            {
                agent priest  0  requires factions { hre, } 
                agent priest  0  requires factions { denmark, } 
                happiness_bonus bonus 1
                religion_level bonus 4
                agent_limit priest 1
            }
            material wooden
            construction  2 
            cost  1600 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                abbey_p
            }
        }
        abbey_p city requires factions { hre, denmark, england, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                agent priest  0  requires factions { hre, } 
                agent priest  0  requires factions { denmark, } 
                happiness_bonus bonus 2
                religion_level bonus 6
                agent_limit priest 2
            }
            material wooden
            construction  3 
            cost  3200 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
                cathedral_p
            }
        }
        cathedral_p city requires factions { hre, denmark, england, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                agent priest  0  requires factions { hre, } 
                agent priest  0  requires factions { denmark, } 
                happiness_bonus bonus 2
                religion_level bonus 8
                agent_limit priest 2
            }
            material wooden
            construction  4 
            cost  6400 
            settlement_min large_city
            upgrades
            {
                huge_cathedral_p
            }
        }
        huge_cathedral_p city requires factions { hre, denmark, england, } 
        {
            capability
            {
                agent priest  0  requires factions { hre, } 
                agent priest  0  requires factions { denmark, } 
                happiness_bonus bonus 3
                religion_level bonus 10
                agent_limit priest 2
            }
            material wooden
            construction  6 
            cost  10000 
            settlement_min huge_city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}
building temple_protestant_castle
{
    convert_to temple_protestant
    religion protestant
    levels small_chapel_p chapel_p 
    {
        small_chapel_p castle requires factions { hre, denmark, england, } 
        {
            convert_to 0
            capability
            {
                agent priest  0  requires factions { hre, } 
                agent priest  0  requires factions { denmark, } 
                happiness_bonus bonus 1
                religion_level bonus 4
                agent_limit priest 1
            }
            material wooden
            construction  1 
            cost  800 
            settlement_min town
            upgrades
            {
                chapel_p
            }
        }
        chapel_p castle requires factions { hre, denmark, england, } 
        {
            convert_to 1
            capability
            {
                agent priest  0  requires factions { hre, } 
                agent priest  0  requires factions { denmark, } 
                happiness_bonus bonus 1
                religion_level bonus 6
                agent_limit priest 1
            }
            material wooden
            construction  2 
            cost  1600 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}

I don't see any issues with it, do you?

[Gigantus]

Nothing on first glance. Maybe run the EDB checker to check the formatting. I do trust you got the required entries in text\export_buildings?

[Agamemnon]

No, because there is no such file in your Bare Geomod modfolder and in RTW the text files didn't matter, so I wasn't adding them until I finished the part that usually causes crashes (makes crashes easier to find).

[Gigantus]

My apologies, you are right about export_buildings in Geomod.

I think I can safely assume that the TXT file converted from String.Bin doesn't go against the rules when I am attaching it here. Try to solve your unpacking problem and then convert the string bin files (requires python less then version 3.0) .

[Agamemnon]

Ah, thank you!

And I see. I installed the most recent Python, thinking newer was better. Apparently not for M2TW. Well, I'll DL an older one.

But, with this file, I don't think I'll have any more issues at all. Thanks.

[Gigantus]

My link goes to a suitable python version.

[Agamemnon]

Thanks.