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Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions Tutorial
This tutorial will show you how to create a script which will allow all factions in the game to re-emerge when their previously capital settlement riots against the occupiers. It will tell you how the script works and how you can tailor it to your own needs.
Files that need to be edited:campaign_script.txt
export_descr_buildings.txtexport_buildings.txt
Last edited by TMK; August 02, 2012 at 09:09 AM.
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Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
For some reason, my browser seems to be posting this wrong. Ignore this until I fix the layout.
EDIT: I have tried with Internet Explorer and Firefox and the same layout bug happens. Is it TWC?
EDIT2: Everything is working fine now! Feedback on the tutorial please?
Last edited by TMK; July 31, 2012 at 06:51 PM.
I am not special - I am a limited edition.
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
I like the idea how you manipulated the factors for faction_emerge with the building. Essentially it's the baron's emergence at long last explained (without the shadowing). I trust it will also work with a faction that hasn't emerged yet.
That should come handy, in fact it will solve the problem with emergent factions that we were having in 1648.
BC Local Moderator
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Thanks!Originally Posted by Gigantus
It was from Withwnar that I got the building idea and code from.
It should work with a faction that hasn't emerged yet but you just need to add conditions to make sure the faction emerged so that the script doesn't fire before the faction's even emerged yet!
Glad to help.
Biarchus
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
First of all, I'd like to thank you for your time and effort. +Rep. Great job on figuring it out, without using the horde aspect.
What I am trying to do, is to limit the amount of monitor_events used. For your script, I would need 3 monitors for each settlement, 3 settlements would need 9 monitors. The one below has 4 monitors for 3 settlements. Let me know what you think. I'm also trying not to use the building aspect of it too.
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Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Thanks for your support!
Nice script, it reduces monitors a lot which is nice. (I actually talk about using If statements to reduce monitors for more settlemetns in the final remarks and options section.)
Do you mind if I use your script as an example for the Tutorial for a script for multiple settlements?
Here is your script with my additions to make it better.
Red is needed code to make it better which is to make the army spawn near the settlement that the faction emerged from, green for my suggestion to include the buildings because without it you run the risk of the faction emerging in a different settlement.
If you take the building suggestion, remember to code in the buildings in the EDB!
Check my additions to the script, it might not be free from faults.Code:;------------------- Scotland -------------------; declare_counter scotland_emerge set_counter scotland_emerge 0 declare_counter scotlandEdinburgh set_counter scotlandEdinburgh 0 declare_counter scotlandAberdeen set_counter scotlandAberdeen 0 declare_counter scotlandInverness set_counter scotlandInverness 0 declare_counter scotland_building set_counter scotland_building 1 monitor_event SettlementTurnStart SettlementName Edinburgh and I_NumberOfSettlements scotland < 1 and SettlementLoyaltyLevel < loyalty_content and I_TurnNumber > 0 set_counter scotlandEdinburgh 1 inc_counter scotland_emerge 1 end_monitor monitor_event SettlementTurnStart SettlementName Aberdeen and I_NumberOfSettlements scotland < 1 and SettlementLoyaltyLevel < loyalty_content and I_TurnNumber > 0 set_counter scotlandAberdeen 1 inc_counter scotland_emerge 1 end_monitor monitor_event SettlementTurnStart SettlementName Inverness and I_NumberOfSettlements scotland < 1 and SettlementLoyaltyLevel < loyalty_content and I_TurnNumber > 0 set_counter scotlandInverness 1 inc_counter scotland_emerge 1 end_monitor monitor_event FactionTurnEnd FactionType slave and I_CompareCounter scotland_emerge >= 2 if I_CompareCounter scotlandEdinburgh = 1 console_command create_building Edinburgh ros_target set_counter scotland_building 0 spawn_army faction scotland character random_name, named character, age 30, x ??, y ??, family traits ReligionStarter 1, LoyaltyStarter 1, NaturalMilitarySkill 2, GoodCommander 2, BattleChivalry 2, Loyal 2, Just 2 unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Feudal Knights exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0 unit Dismounted Mailed Knights exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Dismounted Mailed Knights exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Nobles exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Nobles exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Noble Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 end if I_SettlementOwner Edinburgh = england faction_emerge scotland england 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Edinburgh = wales faction_emerge scotland wales 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Edinburgh = ireland faction_emerge scotland ireland 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Edinburgh = barons_alliance faction_emerge scotland barons_alliance 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Edinburgh = france faction_emerge scotland france 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if CONTINUED FOR OTHER REMAINING FACTIONS... end_if if I_CompareCounter scotlandAberdeen = 1 console_command create_building Aberdeen ros_target set_counter scotland_building 0 spawn_army faction scotland character random_name, named character, age 30, x ??, y ??, family traits ReligionStarter 1, LoyaltyStarter 1, NaturalMilitarySkill 2, GoodCommander 2, BattleChivalry 2, Loyal 2, Just 2 unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Feudal Knights exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0 unit Dismounted Mailed Knights exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Dismounted Mailed Knights exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Nobles exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Nobles exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Noble Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 end if I_SettlementOwner Aberdeen = england faction_emerge scotland england 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Aberdeen = wales faction_emerge scotland wales 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Aberdeen = ireland faction_emerge scotland ireland 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Aberdeen = barons_alliance faction_emerge scotland barons_alliance 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Aberdeen = france faction_emerge scotland france 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if CONTINUED FOR OTHER REMAINING FACTIONS... end_if if I_CompareCounter scotlandInverness = 1 console_command create_building Inverness ros_target set_counter scotland_building 0 spawn_army faction scotland character random_name, named character, age 30, x ??, y ??, family traits ReligionStarter 1, LoyaltyStarter 1, NaturalMilitarySkill 2, GoodCommander 2, BattleChivalry 2, Loyal 2, Just 2 unit NE Bodyguard exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Feudal Knights exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0 unit Dismounted Mailed Knights exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Dismounted Mailed Knights exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Nobles exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Nobles exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highlanders exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Spear Militia exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Noble Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 unit Highland Archers exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0 end if I_SettlementOwner Inverness = england faction_emerge scotland england 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Inverness = wales faction_emerge scotland wales 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Inverness = ireland faction_emerge scotland ireland 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Inverness = barons_alliance faction_emerge scotland barons_alliance 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if if I_SettlementOwner Inverness = france faction_emerge scotland france 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town true unused_label1 unused_name 30 end_if CONTINUED FOR OTHER REMAINING FACTIONS... end_if set_counter scotland_emerge 0 set_counter scotlandEdinburgh 0 set_counter scotlandAberdeen 0 set_counter scotlandInverness 0 end_monitor monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal and I_CompareCounter scotland_building = 0 and I_CompareCounter scotland_emerge = 0 destroy_buildings ros_temp_buildings false set_counter scotland_building 1 end_monitor
This is just a suggestion btw.
Last edited by TMK; August 01, 2012 at 08:41 PM.
Biarchus
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Not at all, go right ahead. Use whatever you would like.Do you mind if I use your script as an example for the Tutorial for a script for multiple settlements?
VB
Script To The Waist
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
It is quite likely that the ros_target building's negative bonuses won't be enough to make this settlement the one with the lowest public order. As explained here - under Public Order - the thing that really does the trick is putting the other building - ros_po_bonus - in all of the other settlements. (Actually: all of the settlements, including the target, but the conditions on the bonuses prevent them working in the target settlement.)
Biarchus
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
I made some changes to mine. I added add_settlement_turmoil syntax and change the spawned army to be near the settlement that changes over.
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VB
Script To The Waist
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
I can't remember ... is that 15% or 15x5%=75%? Even 75% might not be enough. You could easily have a situation where your intended target settlement has 160% PO and another settlement only has 80%: the other settlement would 'win' even with the turmoil penalty.
I have a feeling I tried add_settlement_turmoil and it was no use. Something like: that amount is added to the settlement over time, not immediately.
Any particular reason you don't wish to use the buildings VB? It was the only reliable* way to do it that I found and I spent quite a bit of time experimenting.
* not 100%
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Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
The reason I didn't use the other building is because for my script to fire, the settlement must be rioting so its already 70% and ros_target will bring it down to 10-0%. Using the other building is tedious as you have to build it in every settlement which is long and i need this script for 18 factions so it makes larger still. I might update the tutorial to include ways to script a re-emergance when the settlement is not rioting using the other PO increasing buildings.
Last edited by TMK; August 02, 2012 at 06:14 AM.
Script To The Waist
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Ah yes, already rioting. I missed that.
However, ros_target will only reduce those three PO bonuses. There is a good chance that a settlement will only have a small amount of these bonuses to begin with, or possibly none at all. e.g. If it only has +5% Law and +5% Happiness then only 10% in total will be removed by this building, taking it from (e.g.) 70% to 60% PO. There is the risk that another settlement also has 60% due to high taxes and low garrison (etc.) in which case either of these settlements could become the emergence target. If the other settlement has less than 60% then that will definitely become the target.
A smallish risk, perhaps, that more than one settlement has such low PO. And you have the disclaimer that this isn't guaranteed to work. If you use the other building as well then it is muuuch more guaranteed to work. As tedious as it might be; it is the nature of this scripting language's limitations sometimes.
All you need to do is add this to your slave TurnEnd monitor, before the ros_target building line...
And add a destroy_building for all factions where you have the one...Code:console_command create_building Acre ros_po_bonus console_command create_building Adana ros_po_bonus console_command create_building Ajaccio ros_po_bonus console_command create_building Aleppo ros_po_bonus console_command create_building Alexandria ros_po_bonus console_command create_building Algiers ros_po_bonus console_command create_building Angers ros_po_bonus ;... and all other settlements on the map... console_command create_building Sana ros_target
And just a suggestion but you might want to layout the script to be a bit more easy to follow...Code:destroy_buildings yemen ros_temp_buildings false destroy_buildings england ros_temp_buildings false destroy_buildings france ros_temp_buildings false destroy_buildings hre ros_temp_buildings false ;... and all other factions...
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Last edited by Withwnar; August 03, 2012 at 05:36 AM.
Biarchus
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
I believe that i was close to my building tree limit on my personal mod. I will need to check the limits again and count my tree. Just takes awhile to do this and I was putting it off, tedious.Any particular reason you don't wish to use the buildings VB?
VB
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Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Notepad++ can be used to count instances of individual words in a document. In this case searching for levels and selecting 'count' will give you the number of trees.
Semisalis
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
I'm trying to make a faction re-emerge on the condition that another faction's kalmar union script is accepted. Does this look right to you guys?
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Script To The Waist
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
The union_accepted condition is correct but there are other problems...
You're testing that Carn-Dum has low public order in its SettlementTurnStart but there is no guarantee that this settlement has the lowest public order in the faction that owns it. Especially as the emerging is not done until the slave turn: between SettlementTurnStart of the Carn-Dum owner's turn and the slave's turn any number of things could have happened that would no longer make Carn-Dum the candidate settlement. e.g. Carn-Dum's public order could increase due to recruitment (garrison) or a governor moving in, and/or another settlement could have even lower public order due to governor/garrison moving out.
In the emerge section you are not testing all/only relevant factions. e.g. hre is missing - Orcs of the Misty Mountains - which is a likely faction to be the current owner. Poland, Denmark, etc. are not in TATW so there is no point testing for them.
I think that you would need to do the emerging at the same time as finding out that Carn-Dum PO is low: within that SettlementTurnStart. And use the special buildings to guarantee that it is indeed Carn-Dum that gets emerged-into.
I take it that the spawn-sendoffmap-spawn thing is to give him a unique name and then a unique bodyguard? If you find that he has a "dead" portrait after that second spawn then you might want to move him into the settlement before sending him off map.
Semisalis
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Thanks. I'm adding in the ros buildings to make sure CD has the lowest public order now. Of course I should have remembered to include hre. D'oh.
Yes the send_off_map part is to give unique name/BG's. Haven't had any problem with the portrait doing it this way so far.
Thanks!
Civis
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Wow thats greatCan I actually use anything else apart from building but just ''public order for example'' to trigger the re-emergence? And what actually these parts mean.. I'm not very much familiar with all the codes sorry
if I_SettlementOwner Sana = byzantium
faction_emerge yemen byzantium 1 400.0 0.0 1.2 town false unused_label1 unused_name 30
BC Local Moderator
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
Can you explain your question again please? I don't seem to understand.Wow thats great
If you mean different commands apart from buildings than I'm not sure as Vegas Bear has already experimented and I don't it works effectively.
You don't actually need to know about any of that, I don't and it works perfectly.
I think the 400 is to do with the settlements affected by this faction re-emergance so only settlements underneath 400. The unused labels are to prevent the label already in use error.
Civis
Re: Creating Localised Re-Emerging Factions without using the Horde Ability
I mean you are using buildings to lower the loyalty of the settlement, is it necessary to use buildings. Do we have to use them. Because, I used a code like this, but didnt seem to work. Faction turns into rebel every time their army spawns. So does it anything to do with the building you create. Do they essential to make faction alive after they re-emerge. Sorry to trouble you.
In the codes 'iskoç' means 'scotish' .
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Last edited by w.wallace61; August 28, 2012 at 07:49 AM.
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