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    CA Developer Icon Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Hi all,

    Alongside the Saints and Heroes DLC that's releasing today at some point, we're also issuing a title update for Total War: Shogun 2 and Fall of the Samurai.

    This update will bring a range of improvements, notably incorporating new AI changes. The AI in Total War games remains impossible to mod, but we do recognise that some players would like to have greater control over this aspect of the game in the future.

    In the meantime, in addition to many general fixes, we have made a number of AI code adjustments below, which we hope you find useful and entertaining.

    General fixes

    • Fixed cavalry exploit where players could engage infantry with minimal losses and cause unit to rout.

    • Fixed issue where blood would not appear on face and left arm of units in Blood Pack DLC.

    • Various audio fixes.

    • Correct banner is now shown by Tosa standard bearers.

    • Fixed morale bug that could cause the player's army to rout if a reinforcing army had enough Gatling guns.

    • Fixes for additional multiplayer campaign desync occurrences where identified.

    • Fixed graphical clipping issue with Shinsengumi’s cape.

    • Revolver Cavalry is now capped at 4 per army in multiplayer.

    • Hosts should now correctly leave a multiplayer campaign when client quits after a battle.

    • Fix for certain Daimyos portraits being stretched.

    • Saga's clan attributes should now be working correctly.

    • Pro-imperial clans should now be able to recruit Shogitai after changing allegiance.

    • Clan Development "Modern Rifles" and the trait gained from "French Military Mission" no longer affect artillery units.

    • Daimyo retainer's "British Naval Engineer", "British Railway Engineer", "Francois Leonce Verny" and "Inudstrialist" should now be working correctly.

    • Daimyo retainer's "Logistics" and "Scourge" should now correctly stack to provide a 15% replenishment rate.

    • Daimyo retainer "Over-ambitious mistress" should now have an effect on Daimyo honour.

    • Daimyo retainer "Sir Harry Smith Parkes" should now have a description attached.

    • Dilemma "Koyosha" now correctly decreases research rate, rather than increases research rate.

    • Various typographical fixes.

    • Event "Security Matters" should now have a relevant penalty.

    • Mission "Developing our potential" should now be correctly displayed when skipping the first cut-scene.

    Multiplayer cost balancing

    • Katana Hero units used to cost 1500 Koku, now cost 1300 Koku.
    • Yari Hero units used to cost 1100 Koku, now cost 1000 Koku.
    • Naginata Warrior Monk Hero units used to cost 1500 Koku, now cost 1300 Koku.
    • Bow Hero units used to cost 1400 Koku, now cost 1250 Koku.


    AI improvements

    • Naval AI will now repair damaged fleets in battle.

    • Improvements to AI defending to take into account distance and relative strength between AI and human units when selecting targets.

    • Improvements to AI defence when AI has missile superiority.

    • AI non-missile/cavalry units will now more frequently move through missile units defending the front line of a battlegroup if they are being charged by a player.

    • Further improvements made to reinforcing army AI to limit idle army behaviour.

    • Fixed issue where AI would occasionally send in single, unsupported units to attack the player. Units will now co-ordinate better and attack in larger numbers.

    • Other AI units will attack player-friendly units that are protecting the flanks of the AI’s primary target unit.
    Last edited by CraigTW; July 26, 2012 at 10:14 AM.

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    So, Today - Nice
    Need to start press F5

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Excellent news on the AI. Many thanks.
    A plea to CA: Please give us NON-STEAM OPTIONS such as with GOG.COM`s Alan Wake and Witcher 2, etc. Even allow a system such that Mount and Blade Uses. Many of us will pay extra for a Steam-free version of RTW2.
    The use of STEAM-ONLY by CA is ethically wrong because:
    1. It does not need to be forced. It could be optional as other games have proven.
    2. It discriminates between internet users and non-users or those who simply do not want it.
    3. The `advantages` are only advantages in a very small and superficial manner. They do not counter the disadvantages.
    4. It suits the company way more than the user. We are simply told it`s better for us
    Finally,I shall not give CA|SEGA my money for RTW2 while it forces Steam on me. They have given us no good reason why it must be so. Basically they don`t care.

    A Steam Option would benefit ALL. Don`t fight us, JOIN us.
    Games don`t need forced Steam

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    I hope the AI is really fixed.

    Please tell me there are new models for Saints and Heroes.
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...8#post12354888
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post12253471
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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Thank you .

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigTW View Post
    but we do recognise that some players would like to have greater control over this aspect of the game in the future.
    Oh you sweet talker, you.

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Patch just finished downloading.
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...8#post12354888
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post12253471
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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    How big is it?

    nvm. Getting it now. ~170mb. Very nice .

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by Anton III View Post
    How big is it?

    nvm. Getting it now. ~170mb. Very nice .
    I don't have DSL, it only took about a few seconds for me, 4 seconds maybe?
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...8#post12354888
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post12253471
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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Hey, Hey!! DLC it's for free?
    Because there's no any price o.O Only information about need S2 to run

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Trailer here


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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    I doubt that it is free cause i went to check the DLC i have for my Shogun 2. It does not list down that i have the "Saints and Heroes" DLC pack. I think they have not got the pricing in yet.

    But Im really excited by the AI changes

    The pictures of the Saints and Heroes units look nice but since i dont play mp, not sure if they are recycled parts though~ There is Onna Bushi Hero though inspired by Gozen Now all I want is a Hojo Masako Damiyo

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    I love the 3D sashimonos .

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    When a DLC for FotS?

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by legoras View Post
    Hey, Hey!! DLC it's for free?
    Because there's no any price o.O Only information about need S2 to run
    no its $3.25

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Thanks for this excellent update and DLC. looks like the Bloodpack issue has finally been fixed up as well excellent work all around

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Doad View Post
    no its $3.25
    Now, yes.. but first time, was "released" with no price (for few minutes)

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Alright. My heraldry fetish led to my purchasing this, even though I'm completely gutted that there's no Masanori helmet .

    (Don't worry about that light blue; it's modded.)
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    I know this won't appeal to everyone, but new 3D sashimonos? Hyperbolic jumonji-yari? It may be a small unit pack, but I like it. Anyone that doesn't like heroes can just render them more generic units like I did a few minutes ago. Never mind that the Tetsubo guys forgot to bring along sode to the fight .

    (Oh, since you've gotten me all hyperactive over heraldry, if you ever get the chance or what ever, could you think about giving modders a sashimono as a unit part rather than a warscape item? No hassle ).
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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Any news on the dudes fighting with bayonets instead of whipping out swords? been fixed already or what?

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    Can we recruit all unit in the same faction or this is one unit per faction ?

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    Default Re: Full patch notes for upcoming title update - Saints and Heroes DLC out today! (26.07.2012)

    There's no faction specific limits. You can get them all in the one campaign .

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