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[mishkin]

Hello again.
A few hours ago, in the "Coliseum", "The describe the person Above you thread" I wrote the following:
"He is a fascist.
He's ultra-nationalist. "
after seeing in his profile that belonged to the political groups "Ave Fascism" and "The ultranationalist group"

After a few minutes someone delete my post.
Later i asked what had happened to the moderator and he said:
"People Have Been infracted for calling posters Fascists or Nazi or whatever. It is seen as insulting by some (the user described, in this case) and therefore I Decided to remove the post".

I know the rule "I can say I'm a Nazi / stupid but you can not call me Nazi / stupid."

This rule also applies to fascist / communist /socialist /democrat / conservative / republicans etc.?
This rule depends on whether the person feels offended or not?


If so, though I appreciate the intent of the moderator to delete my post and the person described told me was not offended, honestly I want my points removed relating to my transgression.

This may sound strange, but I'm not joking or challenging the moderators, I just want coherence.

Thank you.

[Gigantus]

Calling someone a fascist or ultra nationalist in a chat thread is bound to be at least disruptive, bordering on insulting.

And yes, it's the old "I am a fascist\nazi\idiot\whatever takes my fancy - but you may not call me one."

If so, though I appreciate the intent of the moderator to delete my post and the person described told me was not offended, honestly I want my points removed relating to my transgression

There will be no record of a deletion\points unless it is accompanied with a note or infraction to you.

[mishkin]

As calling someone communist or republican?
No disruptive: "The describe the person Above you thread"

[Gigantus]

Communist or republican do not have the negative connotations as have 'fascist' or 'ultra nationalist'. It would get classified 'disruptive' if the thread starts derailing because of it, so a certain caution is advised before you attach descriptions to someone.

[mishkin]

Communist or republican do not have the negative connotations as have 'fascist' or 'ultra nationalist'. It would get classified 'disruptive' if the thread starts derailing because of it, so a certain caution is advised before you attach descriptions to someone.

Negative connotations? Why? (sarcasm, sorry). This is the usual dead end?
True, my post could have lead to something disruptive.

[GrnEyedDvl]

There is actually a similar discussion in the Q & S which you might want to read.

[mishkin]

I´ve been there and i´ve seen a lot of discussions in the administrative forums.
And i always have the same feeling. There is something (maybe something very small) rotten in TWC. I can not define it so I can not make a positive critique or give a "solution". The only solution for me (and some others) will be ignore these issues (and let the """bad guys""" win).

Edit: "bad guys": people proud of "what they are" but you can not say "what they are".

[Ishan]

Previously also "The describe the person above you" thread was closed when members started name-calling in that thread. Used to call a member like "Scum", "Liar", "Spammer", obviously these regular posters of thema devia were friends and meant in a lighthearted manner but still it gave the impression that name-calling is not a big deal and anyone can do it, so staff had to use thread warnings, post deletions\edits etc to try to stop it and when they saw that it wasn't enough, a moderator closed it permanently.

Then these guys after few months requested hex to open a new one in coliseum and assured staff that they will follow these guidelines. Now it was 2 local moderators, Pasan and Kameraden & they will delete anything they think is disruptive. So try to avoid that, it's not an unreasonable request. Otherwise if one exception is allowed then all of the previous posters will start doing it and then this thread may be lost permanently as staff won't waste time on such a trivial thread over and over again.

In your case you could've said something like this:

Is a member of Ave Fascism group, so he is,

[mishkin]

As usual, thanks man.
(Still, something is rotten in Denmark)

[pannonian]

As usual, thanks man.
(Still, something is rotten in Denmark)

[mishkin]

I have no words.
Edit: lets not talk about sid and nancy and who should died too