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    Default Re: What chance did the Gauls really have against Rome?

    I Germanica
    I Minervia
    II Augusta
    II Italica
    IV Macedonica
    VI Ferrata
    X Fretensis
    VIII Augusta
    XVI Gallica
    XXII Primigenia
    XXX Ulpia Victrix
    XXI Rapax


    Some of these legions, if not Composed of gauls in their founding, would later be composed of entirely gauls or Germanians/Northern/western europeans.

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    Default Re: What chance did the Gauls really have against Rome?

    Yes and Germanics are not Gauls. You did claim they did come from Gaul. did you change your mind again?
    I Germanica: Raised by Caesar in Civil war. Probably not mayorly from Gaul, and only spend a short time in Germania( where there were roman Colonies...)
    I Minervia: Raised for a Campaign in Germania, not indication of it coming mostly from Gaul.
    II Augusta: Spend very few time in Gaul.
    II Italica: No real link with Gaul
    IV Macedonica: No link with Gaul
    VI Ferrata: From Gallia Cisalpina
    X Fretensis: Only link is that it fought against the Gallic Empire
    VII Augusta: Fought in the Gallic Wars and left afterwards.
    XVI Gallica: you ask that?
    XXII Primigenia: Germania
    XXX Ulpia Victrix: went nearly everywhere
    XXI Rapax: Formed out of remnants of other Legions and never was stationed in Gaul.

    So where are 50/70% of the legions coming from Gaul? Do you use Gaul for whole Europe? Or even Eurasia because you claimed that Turkey lies in Gaul?

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    Fine, keep your head inside the If you want, Rome's legions originated as much as everywhere else as they did in gaul. If you wanna keep acting like a clown and scream of these fairy genocides and untold warcrimes (If you believe in them anyways, the tank guy obviously does) then go ahead

    II Italica: No real link with Gaul
    The legion was still at Lorch in Noricum in the age of the emperor Diocletian With Legio I Noricorum, Oh whats that? right, another gallic-Founded legion


    XXI Rapax: Formed out of remnants of other Legions and never was stationed in Gaul.
    Spent time in Eastern-northern gaul (Although germania Inferior for the most part)


    I Minervia: Raised for a Campaign in Germania, not indication of it coming mostly from Gaul.
    What the hell are you babbling about? The Legion spent years fighting the gallic belgians and was later stationed at the gallic capital of Lugdunum.



    VII Augusta: Fought in the Gallic Wars and left afterwards.
    With several gallic warriors accepted in its ranks, Example: CIVLIO CABILENVS


    IV Macedonica: No link with Gaul
    The legion passed through gaul many times, fought with batavian gauls, and was disbanded in Cisalpine gaul.



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    Default Re: What chance did the Gauls really have against Rome?

    Legions were normally named for the place they were intended to go and fight. Not where they were raised.
    For instance a legion with the name germania would have been raised initially to fight in germany.
    I have a fairly comprehensive list of where exactly legions were initially raised and what their main recruiting grounds were and can confirm many were from gaul and some even from germany. In other words they were full of germans and gauls. Apart from this the auxilliary legions which generally made up the "other half" of a legions strength were usually also fairly exotic.

    It is interesting to know that on discharge auxilliary legionaries got citizenship and usually were then allowed to take roman three part names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Sultan V View Post
    Fine, keep your head inside the If you want, Rome's legions originated as much as everywhere else as they did in gaul. If you wanna keep acting like a clown and scream of these fairy genocides and untold warcrimes (If you believe in them anyways, the tank guy obviously does) then go ahead
    Acting like a clown? Who is making funny statements here? I won´t say it was a genocide, but according to Caesar a substantial amount of Gauls lost their lives... Look it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by General Sultan V View Post
    The legion was still at Lorch in Noricum in the age of the emperor Diocletian With Legio I Noricorum, Oh whats that? right, another gallic-Founded legion
    Yes like Turkey, Noricum lay in Gaul

    Quote Originally Posted by General Sultan V View Post
    Spent time in Eastern-northern gaul (Although germania Inferior for the most part)
    A vexilllation was deployed to beat down a rebellion. Never stationed there, as I said


    Quote Originally Posted by General Sultan V View Post
    What the hell are you babbling about? The Legion spent years fighting the gallic belgians and was later stationed at the gallic capital of Lugdunum.
    You are right about Lugdunum, they spent 13 years there. But Germania Inferior is not in Gallia and Chauci are Germanics and not Belgae.
    I thought you did read Tacitus?




    Quote Originally Posted by General Sultan V View Post
    With several gallic warriors accepted in its ranks, Example: CIVLIO CABILENVS
    Yes and?



    Quote Originally Posted by General Sultan V View Post
    The legion passed through gaul many times, fought with batavian gauls, and was disbanded in Cisalpine gaul.
    Passed through Gaul maybe 2(Yes that is a high number, unlike 20 % of the Roman Legions, which is insignificant) times. Batavians are not Gauls . Again I thought you did read Tacitus?
    Cusalpine Gaul was already dissolved(non-existant) at the time of the disbanding.

    @ Destraex,
    No one is denying that a lot of Roman soldiers came from Gaul, but 70%(or 50) is a bit high for an empire spanning around the Mediterranean.

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    Default Re: What chance did the Gauls really have against Rome?

    Fair enough, i've Gotten too far at those numbers, But a sound number of gauls existed throughout the Roman legions

    If this is really your point, Then I Am sorry for my ignorance, you were right all along, I Got alittle off I guess :/

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