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    I would like to point out that the French were the decisive factor in the independence war. They supplied all the weapons, money , ammunition and troops to the colonials. Without France there would have been no USA.

    The British had one of the most well trained armies in the world and were professional to the core with centuries of experience with warfare. To say the British were inept is historically incorrect.

    Another factor was the new world was very far away from the home country and logistics was a problem increased greatly by French/Dutch and Spanish naval blockades which stopped supplies and troops reaching the new world. Britain was fighting all 4 countries simultaneously.

    I love this mod but historically accurate descriptions are very important!
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    They supplied all the weapons, money , ammunition and troops to the colonials.

    When were french "troops" as in line infantry ever in the colonies during the revolution?
    AS for weapons there was little, ammo less, and money least of all. the continental currency was less than useless

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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    We've not edited the in-game descriptions, nor are we likely to.

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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    Quote Originally Posted by RedGuard View Post
    They supplied all the weapons, money , ammunition and troops to the colonials.

    When were french "troops" as in line infantry ever in the colonies during the revolution?
    AS for weapons there was little, ammo less, and money least of all. the continental currency was less than useless
    Siege of Yorktown (7800-8800 French Regulars, as well as 29 warships), Siege of Savannah (3000 French Regulars), French landing at Newport (6000 French Regulars - the result was the establishment of a French naval base there)

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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    Quote Originally Posted by batty1234 View Post
    Siege of Yorktown (7800-8800 French Regulars, as well as 29 warships), Siege of Savannah (3000 French Regulars), French landing at Newport (6000 French Regulars - the result was the establishment of a French naval base there)
    thats why i was asking not telling. I honestly didn't know. But it seems to me out of those 3 battles only one was a victory, one was a defeat and the other inconclusive. hardly the reason the USA was formed
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    The French were giving aid in all shapes and sizes even before the revolutionary war started , so the answer to your question is the entire war and even before. Granted there were a few colonial victories but it would not have been decisive without French involvement.

    If you have seen the movie "The Patriot" this is as far from historically accurate as you can get. Aliens nuking the Atlantic Ocean would be more believable.
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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    Quote Originally Posted by flexter View Post
    The French were giving aid in all shapes and sizes even before the revolutionary war started , so the answer to your question is the entire war and even before. Granted there were a few colonial victories but it would not have been decisive without French involvement.

    If you have seen the movie "The Patriot" this is as far from historically accurate as you can get. Aliens nuking the Atlantic Ocean would be more believable.
    That's debatable. The turning point of the war were the Battles of Saratoga which had no French involvement and directly led to the French supporting the cause. In 1778

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    After a string of defeats the colonials managed to win a battle with 3 times more troops. However the colonials would have been defeated and put down if the French did not openly get themselves involved which was my point
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    Quote Originally Posted by flexter View Post
    @ Virtual

    After a string of defeats the colonials managed to win a battle with 3 times more troops. However the colonials would have been defeated and put down if the French did not openly get themselves involved which was my point
    Really? The Battle of Trenton came before that and was no defeat. The French were no doubt a help but saying they won the war is a stretch. Colonial generalship was simply better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flexter View Post

    The British had one of the most well trained armies in the world and were professional to the core with centuries of experience with warfare.
    So funny, i did not know that professional armies getting experience while killing spearman and archers here and there with guns.

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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    This is now starting to get rather off-topic. If people want to play the American War of Independence I would advise they play TAR rather than DMUC, since that mod actually concentrates on it.

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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    Yes this post would be rather suited on that forum. Move it there and see what people say. This mod focuses on the whole world, not just America.
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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    Quote Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty View Post
    Really? The Battle of Trenton came before that and was no defeat. The French were no doubt a help but saying they won the war is a stretch. Colonial generalship was simply better.
    I wouldn't really call Trenton a "battle"

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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    Yes because I am sure people are playing the american revolution to play as France..

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    Default Re: Historically Inaccurate American Campaign Description

    saying "all" is a bit of exaggeration.

    *most americans during that time possess their own firearms.
    *the american colonies were already self sufficient, so supplies from france are not that really something "to die for" (notice why the continentals didn't put much effort in their navy)
    *About the troops, the french didn't supplied 'all' the troops. if they did, then there will be no need for a continental army and washington would have played poker in some pub instead.

    there are still a lot i want to point out, but i think maybe you are just a kid that really adores the british army.

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