Grander Map?

[spchariot]

My biggest complaint about Shogun 2 (I was a big Empire fan) was how small the campaign map was. Victory just doesn't feel as meaningful, the game not as grand. I long for the great game.

I'm sure I'm showing my ignorance here - I can't seem to find any mods that change the campaign map and add regions, either by increasing territory or "zooming in." Will this ever happen? Are there any I'm missing?

[LestaT]

Wait until August. Then we'll know.

[RollingWave]

My biggest complaint about Shogun 2 (I was a big Empire fan) was how small the campaign map was. Victory just doesn't feel as meaningful, the game not as grand. I long for the great game.

I'm sure I'm showing my ignorance here - I can't seem to find any mods that change the campaign map and add regions, either by increasing territory or "zooming in." Will this ever happen? Are there any I'm missing?

Since Empire the campaign maps' editability have dropped (to like zero) so that's the main problem, hopefully CA will open that up at least to some realistic extend going foward.

[MathiasOfAthens]

The problem, imo, is Shogun is smaller, centered on Japan, an island. Even with dozens of factions and cities it still feels small. If perhaps they added in Korea and parts of China it would feel larger but the map and gameplay would change. Hopefully though CA adds over 30-40 factions in their next game in Europe. With the warscape engine, unlimited factions, rebellions/civil wars etc the possibilities in Europe are endless. I would love to see a MIII. As long as they do the regions right.

Just make sure the campaign map has plenty of regions to conquer instead of large regions representing states. Avoid ETW regions at all costs.

[eXistenZ]

Just make sure the campaign map has plenty of regions to conquer instead of large regions representing states. Avoid ETW regions at all costs.

Exaclty. in that sense Napoleon was better. Butt offcours the focus was only on europe.

[daniu]

I really hope the people asking for both a more global map and finer split regions aren't the ones that were complaining about long end-of-turn times with ETW or you'll be contradicting yourself.
It should be pretty obvious that the time to calculate the AI factions' moves increases more than linearly in proportion to the amount of provinces held by them.

Maybe you should remind yourselves that Empire's EOT times are very close to being unbearable during mid game (ie. before half the world has been captured by the player).

[spchariot]

Wait until August. Then we'll know.

What happens in August?

[Radzeer]

What happens in August?

Modding summit in late July.

[spchariot]

Modding summit in late July.

Gotya. Be sure to bring this up .

[Adreno]

well shogun 2's map isnt that small really.. its just that its only japan.. if japan was in empire it would be 2 regions tops

[CptAustus]

Just make sure the campaign map has plenty of regions to conquer instead of large regions representing states. Avoid ETW regions at all costs.

You can have a map with over 1000 regions, but people are still gonna complain about how Europe isnt in it.

[MathiasOfAthens]

I really hope the people asking for both a more global map and finer split regions aren't the ones that were complaining about long end-of-turn times with ETW or you'll be contradicting yourself.
It should be pretty obvious that the time to calculate the AI factions' moves increases more than linearly in proportion to the amount of provinces held by them.

Maybe you should remind yourselves that Empire's EOT times are very close to being unbearable during mid game (ie. before half the world has been captured by the player).

Thats a good point but I was really only asking for France and Spain to be split up into proper regions instead of one gigantic one.

[smilinga]

I agree with Mathias about Korea and China as an expansion, but imo both countries should be "unlockable" for invasion only after Japan as been united (not to have the AI of a small region of Japan invading Korea alone too early in the game, or the contrary, being invaded by China too early in the game) and also not to too much the very essence of the original game (uniting Japan under your banner, not uniting asia). Plus adding those countries would be more historically accurate since Toyotomi Hideyoshi did, in 1581, attack Korea.