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    Is there any way that I can turn my 1 turn campaign into a 0 turn campaign? I recently got the marian reforms and don't want it to have to take forever to train legions. Is there something like replacing the 1 turn campaign recruitment files with the 0 turn ones? Thanks!

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    Not a chance, you can forget it.
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    That Jews suffered greatly from 1933-1945 is not in question but the notion of a premeditated, planned, and industrial extermination of Europe's Jews with its iconic gas-chambers and magical six million are all used to make the Holocaust not only special but also sacred. We are faced with a new, secular religion, a false God with astonishing power to command worship. And, like the Crucifixion with its Cross, Resurrection etc, the Holocaust has key and sacred elements—the exterminationist imperative, the gas-chambers and the sacred six million. It is these that comprise the holy Holocaust which Zionists, and others worship and which Ernst and the revisionists refuse.
    Nor is this a small matter. If it was, why the fuss, why the witch-hunt, why the imprisonment of David Irving, Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zündel? And it's not just them. What may be a massive lie is being used to oppress pretty much all of humankind. The German and Austrian peoples who, we are told, conceived and perpetrated the slaughter; the Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, peoples etc., etc who supposedly hosted, assisted in and cheered on the slaughter; the Swiss who earned out of the slaughter and the entire Christian world who, it seems, created the faith—traditions and ideologies in which the slaughter could take place—in fact, the Holocaust oppresses the entire non-Jewish world and indeed much of the Jewish world as well. Stand and have done with it. Deny the Holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbyox View Post
    Is there any way that I can turn my 1 turn campaign into a 0 turn campaign? I recently got the marian reforms and don't want it to have to take forever to train legions. Is there something like replacing the 1 turn campaign recruitment files with the 0 turn ones? Thanks!
    That's the exact reasons why we prefer play 0 turn campaigns instead of 1 turn (even when I still play 1 turn sometimes, but I'm fully aware that it's the more unrealistic campaign and it was for challange, not roleplay)

    of course, when you start a campaign you should be fully aware that 1 turn is indeed challenging and force you to do a long term plans better, but much less realistic than 0 turn

    sorry, I suggest ya to restart the campaign in 0 turn, don't let the 1 turn fans convince you otherwise or you'll face similar regret in the future

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    Darn, I feared as much. Thank you. I'm scared to try a 0 turn campaign though, I don't want to face endless stacks from the AI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbyox View Post
    Darn, I feared as much. Thank you. I'm scared to try a 0 turn campaign though, I don't want to face endless stacks from the AI
    actually that's not that bad you just need to play your troop manouver well, never leave a stack unattended in the open, always have backup stacks (like in real life do), so you have things to fall back when something bad happened. Exploit natural defenses like narrow passes and river crossings, all can be done effectively in 0 turn campaigns

    plus, they aren't the 2.0 level anymore, the stacks is still more than 1 turn campaigns obviously, but you can counter them by having a good count of troops yourself

    don't let the 1 turn fans scare you, try 0 turn
    there's a reason the 0 turn are default campaigns in RS

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    Allllright, thanks for the advice. I guess I'll try a 0 turn campaign. Gotta deal with Hannibal and that turn 2 rebellion again Wish I would've just started with a 0 turn campaign.

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    As Spike said, just give 0 turn a go and see how you like it . You may find you love it. Or, alternatively, you may find you hate it, but you won't know until you try it for yourself.

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    You can play two separate campaigns in 1 and 0-turn. When you start disliking your current camp you can switch to the other.


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    Well, I did try the 0 turn campaign, and loved it. I dealt with Hannibal and the rebellion fairly easy because of the massive recruiting you're able to do. Once I was comfortable with it all, I got off for a bit, got back on a few minutes ago, and realized it wasn't autosaving. I hate my life now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naq View Post
    You can play two separate campaigns in 1 and 0-turn. When you start disliking your current camp you can switch to the other.
    This is generally what I do. I have multiple campaigns going at the same time, and whatever one I feel like playing, I play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbyox View Post
    ........, and realized it wasn't autosaving. I hate my life now.
    Are you aware that you are strongly advised to have disabled auto-save? You may hate your life even more if not....

    Auto-save has long been believed to be buggy and can cause crashes.

    Much better to disable it and manually save, keeping back-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbyox View Post
    Darn, I feared as much. Thank you. I'm scared to try a 0 turn campaign though, I don't want to face endless stacks from the AI
    You could try one of the "fewer stacks" EDUs, they're in the "data\_IMPORTANT_STUFF\EDU changes" folder.
    Not sure if it matters much though, I haven't played with them yet.

    In addition to that, playing one turn but changing the recruitment times for your faction to 0 turns should also help.
    This will take some basic modding knowledge however.
    If you'd like I could do it for you in the next couple of days, if so PM me so we can discuss the details.
    That Jews suffered greatly from 1933-1945 is not in question but the notion of a premeditated, planned, and industrial extermination of Europe's Jews with its iconic gas-chambers and magical six million are all used to make the Holocaust not only special but also sacred. We are faced with a new, secular religion, a false God with astonishing power to command worship. And, like the Crucifixion with its Cross, Resurrection etc, the Holocaust has key and sacred elements—the exterminationist imperative, the gas-chambers and the sacred six million. It is these that comprise the holy Holocaust which Zionists, and others worship and which Ernst and the revisionists refuse.
    Nor is this a small matter. If it was, why the fuss, why the witch-hunt, why the imprisonment of David Irving, Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zündel? And it's not just them. What may be a massive lie is being used to oppress pretty much all of humankind. The German and Austrian peoples who, we are told, conceived and perpetrated the slaughter; the Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, peoples etc., etc who supposedly hosted, assisted in and cheered on the slaughter; the Swiss who earned out of the slaughter and the entire Christian world who, it seems, created the faith—traditions and ideologies in which the slaughter could take place—in fact, the Holocaust oppresses the entire non-Jewish world and indeed much of the Jewish world as well. Stand and have done with it. Deny the Holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    actually that's not that bad you just need to play your troop manouver well, never leave a stack unattended in the open, always have backup stacks (like in real life do), so you have things to fall back when something bad happened. Exploit natural defenses like narrow passes and river crossings, all can be done effectively in 0 turn campaigns

    plus, they aren't the 2.0 level anymore, the stacks is still more than 1 turn campaigns obviously, but you can counter them by having a good count of troops yourself

    don't let the 1 turn fans scare you, try 0 turn
    there's a reason the 0 turn are default campaigns in RS
    Don't listen to this propaganda. Play 1 turn if you want. Sure they had reserves in real life but nowhere near as much as 0 turn represents. Don't try to justify 0 turn being realistic both 1 turn and 0 turn are unrealistic, so play the one you enjoy. No faction had the manpower to do what 0 turn does, with factions being able to plop stacks like it's nothing. 1 turn is too slow and building legions takes years. No need to justify your preference just play what you enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbyox View Post
    Is there any way that I can turn my 1 turn campaign into a 0 turn campaign? I recently got the marian reforms and don't want it to have to take forever to train legions. Is there something like replacing the 1 turn campaign recruitment files with the 0 turn ones? Thanks!

    Heresy! Betrayal!....Conspiracy!!!......Subversion!!!........Apostasy!!!!!......

    Why do you want to change from the holy '1 turn' to the subversive '0 turn'?...The Inquisition finds your motivations not sufficent....so probably it will be necessary to torture you, to obtain a full confession, about the reasons behind your apostasy!!!.........Who is behind your unholy words?...What machinations inspire your course of action?......................

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    @ur-Lord Tedric: Since I'm not exactly sure how to disable autosave, is it okay if I just don't reload from autosaves, or will that be buggy too?

    @Scipio praeditus: Hmm, I might try the fewer stacks EDU, thank you. It won't be necessary change the recruitment times for only me though, thanks for the offer. That sounds like the game won't be much of a challenge at all.

    @Smerka: I agree, I don't think either one of them are historically accurate, nice to see someone that agrees.

    @Diocle: Hmm, too bad we don't live in 12th century Spain, I might actually be scared Wait, or was it 13th century? I'm not sure.
    Last edited by Roger Smith; June 02, 2012 at 06:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbyox View Post
    @ur-Lord Tedric: Since I'm not exactly sure how to disable autosave, is it okay if I just don't reload from autosaves, or will that be buggy too?
    You can disable it through the "Edit RS II preferences" button in the launcher, but not using the autosaves will work just as well.

    @Scipio praeditus: Hmm, I might try the fewer stacks EDU, thank you. It won't be necessary change the recruitment times for only me though, thanks for the offer. That sounds like the game won't be much of a challenge at all.
    With the enormous amount of stacks the AI churns out I don't think it would make that much of a difference, but suit yourself.

    @Diocle: Hmm, too bad we don't live in 12th century Spain, I might actually be scared Wait, or was it 13th century? I'm not sure.
    He's speaking for the inquisition of the almighty Emperor of mankind, you'll have to wait another 40.000 years for his threats to take effect.
    Last edited by Scipio praeditus; June 02, 2012 at 06:54 PM.
    That Jews suffered greatly from 1933-1945 is not in question but the notion of a premeditated, planned, and industrial extermination of Europe's Jews with its iconic gas-chambers and magical six million are all used to make the Holocaust not only special but also sacred. We are faced with a new, secular religion, a false God with astonishing power to command worship. And, like the Crucifixion with its Cross, Resurrection etc, the Holocaust has key and sacred elements—the exterminationist imperative, the gas-chambers and the sacred six million. It is these that comprise the holy Holocaust which Zionists, and others worship and which Ernst and the revisionists refuse.
    Nor is this a small matter. If it was, why the fuss, why the witch-hunt, why the imprisonment of David Irving, Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zündel? And it's not just them. What may be a massive lie is being used to oppress pretty much all of humankind. The German and Austrian peoples who, we are told, conceived and perpetrated the slaughter; the Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, peoples etc., etc who supposedly hosted, assisted in and cheered on the slaughter; the Swiss who earned out of the slaughter and the entire Christian world who, it seems, created the faith—traditions and ideologies in which the slaughter could take place—in fact, the Holocaust oppresses the entire non-Jewish world and indeed much of the Jewish world as well. Stand and have done with it. Deny the Holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smerka View Post
    Don't listen to this propaganda. Play 1 turn if you want. Sure they had reserves in real life but nowhere near as much as 0 turn represents. Don't try to justify 0 turn being realistic both 1 turn and 0 turn are unrealistic, so play the one you enjoy. No faction had the manpower to do what 0 turn does, with factions being able to plop stacks like it's nothing. 1 turn is too slow and building legions takes years. No need to justify your preference just play what you enjoy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Diocle View Post
    Heresy! Betrayal!....Conspiracy!!!......Subversion!!!........Apostasy!!!!!......

    Why do you want to change from the holy '1 turn' to the subversive '0 turn'?...The Inquisition finds your motivations not sufficent....so probably it will be necessary to torture you, to obtain a full confession, about the reasons behind your apostasy!!!.........Who is behind your unholy words?...What machinations inspire your course of action?......................

    Gentlemen, gentlemen let the man make his own decision we are living in the democracy of the 21st century (not some time during the inquisition) he has every right to make his own decisions and have his own opinions on how he likes either mode. In Nomine Patris Et Filii et spiritus sancti AMEN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbyox View Post
    @ur-Lord Tedric: Since I'm not exactly sure how to disable autosave, is it okay if I just don't reload from autosaves, or will that be buggy too?...:
    Seriously, I would recommend not using them at all. Either using the Preferences Editor, or editing the Preferences file directly (does depend on your confidence in finding and editing files) simply change 'AUTOSAVE: TRUE' to '.....FALSE'.

    I would also recommend having at least 2 'save' files that you constantly over-write (you don't want too many!). I name the first 'Roma1turn-v2.711' (sic) as that details everything I need in that folder, which I use to save to prior to every battle or mid-turn if I need to stop half-way through a turn; and one named 'Session' which I use to save prior to every end-turn.

    In addition instead of 'Session' I save the equivalent as 'W540' (eg Winter 540) every 5 years. All the above gives me every chance of recovering if a CTD occurs.

    I always try to leave and start on a 'Session', reloading the file, activating the script and pressing end-turn.

    Note: - I'm lucky as I almost never get a CTD and only do if there is a major problem - 3 of them in 4 months/1000 hrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    there's a reason the 0 turn are default campaigns in RS
    wasnt there a poll recently which didnt turned out so well for the 0burnys..uhhh..ähhh..0turnys ?...cough,cough........
    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    there's a reason the 0 turn are default campaigns in RS
    hmmm...One wonders...If these reasons were so convincing then why no TW game ever has and neither will feature a 0turn recruitment ? ...
    Quote Originally Posted by dvk901 View Post
    Oh boy...now the fight starts.
    ...
    Last edited by chris10; June 03, 2012 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARVinis View Post
    Gentlemen, gentlemen let the man make his own decision we are living in the democracy of the 21st century (not some time during the inquisition) he has every right to make his own decisions and have his own opinions on how he likes either mode. In Nomine Patris Et Filii et spiritus sancti AMEN
    Funny how you only quote the 1 turns defenders yet the aggressor (Spike) it totaly in the right. Like I said OP don't listen to this propaganda 1 turn has shown it has a following, so it fine to play it if you want. Notice in the other post I said 'play what you enjoy' as in 0 turn or 1 turn and you shouldn't need to justify your choice.

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