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    Aradiel's Avatar Shisai
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    Default Re: American Civil War : North vs South

    Quote Originally Posted by SirAndrewD View Post
    Perhaps something can be done with the prestige system in Empire to allow for a Confederate victory if either the south has a high enough prestige or the north has a low enough prestige by November 1864.
    A very good idea, if a faction reaches a specific ammount of prestige and or a clear overweight compared to the other.

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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Titus, I'd actually love it if you helped me research. You're most certainly intelligent, with a strong grasp of the period, and the fact that our views differ greatly is in fact a point in our favor, as it would in essence guarantee an unbiased presentation of the material.

    I'll give you my email and my steam if you're interested.

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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Alright, here's what's going on right now. I'm going to need the help of some other researchers, so I'm going to post a request thread. I'll also put the call out for modders/coders/artists.

    That said ANYONE who wants to help with reseach, contact me. I don't care if your education on the civil war consists of the movie Gone With The Wind. If you want to help, or think you can, please contact me. I don't need time committments. I can work with that. I can do most of this myself, but I would like to see this mod get all the things it needs.

    Remember, the quicker the research getsdone, the quicker modders go to work, and the quicker this mod gets finished. And the quicker I can vanquish yankee troops from blessed souhern soil.

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    Default Re: American Civil War : North vs South

    Quote Originally Posted by tobier View Post
    I don't really agree with that we should balance the mod so that we force the conflict to drag on. If the South fights badly, the North will probably crush the rebellion in a couple months.. And there is also the possibility that the South manages to take Washington early, which would probably end the war pretty quick (I figure the Republicans would not remain in office for long, and the Democrats would surely sue for peace).
    Balance the mod in terms of unit production and AI and movement rates.

    Movement is based on 6 months time slots right now, we are moving the time to a week, we will have to research how fast armies could move.

    I am not suggesting that the mod will make it hard for either side to win quickly, but there is many debates, but we have to consider that if we do not alter some basic things to make the game last longer, it could be very possible to end the game in the first 10 turns, which would not be fun.

    I don't expect every game to last 200 turns, but I expect the average to be around 125 turns.

    Because there is only two fractions we will need a much more aggressive AI, as well.

    We cannot let the human player win in 12 turns or even a few months, alot of this will depend on the AI, but I think we will need to expand vicotry conditions, so from the souths prepective, take washington, take new york, take boston, take chicago, it will not be just like take washington or it will be to fast.

    Remember replayability is key, this mod will not be as a good if each player plays twice, once of each side.


    Anyways so I also have a bit of bad news, I have bene looking into the way the campaign maps are built and they seem to rely alot of vectors, which is bad because I cannot easily just create a new map with new regions with alot more digging. On the other hand we are not at this stage yet, so hopefully the mod tools will be out fairly soon and contain these features.

    On the other hand as well, we can use the RTI for a testbed of models and such when we get to that point if the tools are not released.
    Last edited by harshman_chris; March 27, 2009 at 04:34 PM.

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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Very poor Union militia. Dont look at the flag..



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    Default Re: American Civil War : North vs South

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan Uranus View Post
    Do you have the original image? I want to change the color of the letters so that it is easier to see. Also a smaller version would be nice.
    Tell me what you want and I will edit it :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirAndrewD View Post
    I'm not sure the north would have sued for peace with the fall of Washington, not as long as Lincoln was still in control. Lincoln was not concerned with the popularity or unpopularity of the war in the north (as long as he could get troops for the army), he was concerned with saving the Union, and to do that he would have endured virtually anything.
    As far as I know, Congress would have the power to sue for peace, at least in the beginning. If popularity were low enough Lincoln wouldn't have a choice in the matter. Obviously after a couple of years the war would have continued with or without Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by BarnesBL0278 View Post
    Alright, here's what's going on right now. I'm going to need the help of some other researchers, so I'm going to post a request thread. I'll also put the call out for modders/coders/artists.

    That said ANYONE who wants to help with research, contact me. I don't care if your education on the civil war consists of the movie Gone With The Wind. If you want to help, or think you can, please contact me. I don't need time commitments. I can work with that. I can do most of this myself, but I would like to see this mod get all the things it needs.
    Cool, I'll go ahead and post a tread on the Total War yuku forums, also sure I'll help you with research

    Quote Originally Posted by BarnesBL0278 View Post
    Remember, the quicker the research gets done, the quicker modders go to work, and the quicker this mod gets finished. And the quicker I can vanquish Yankee troops from blessed southern soil.
    And the quicker I can crush the traitors under a thousand tons of loyal American Lead and Steel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slurricane View Post
    Tell me what you want and I will edit it :-)
    I would like the same banner but 1/2 as tall and 1/2 as wide, with red letters please.
    Last edited by Titan Uranus; March 27, 2009 at 06:17 PM.
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    Default Re: American Civil War : North vs South

    This more what you were looking for?



    If you push the quote button and copy the code directly it will link directly to the begining of this thread
    Last edited by ★Bandiera Rossa☭; March 27, 2009 at 08:07 PM.
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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Thanks Slurricane

    Hmm whoops, broken the link for this one, it works in any future posts
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=260572

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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Quote Originally Posted by harshman_chris View Post
    Thanks Slurricane

    Hmm whoops, broken the link for this one, it works in any future posts
    So do you find it satisfactory?
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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    For Sure. more than actually, it will help promote the mod alot
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=260572

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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Quote Originally Posted by Slurricane View Post
    So do you find it satisfactory?
    Thank you, +1 rep on me.
    Edit I seem to be incompetent, how do I put it in my signature?
    Last edited by Titan Uranus; March 27, 2009 at 09:14 PM.
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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    I want mine to have Johnny Reb stabbing Billy Yank with his bayonette.

    All jokes aside, though, if I could get one that's more Southern than not, Slurri, I will find you and literally kiss your ass.

    Preferably with some old daguerrotypes or photos, though I'll settle for paintings if need be.

    AND NICE INFANTRY! Badass. I love the flag.

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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan Uranus View Post
    Thank you, +1 rep on me.
    Edit I seem to be incompetent, how do I put it in my signature?
    Too bad your rep doesn't count . To put it in your sig go to your profile. Customize profile. then sig You then copy the code from my post and put it on there.

    Quote Originally Posted by BarnesBL0278 View Post
    I want mine to have Johnny Reb stabbing Billy Yank with his bayonette.

    All jokes aside, though, if I could get one that's more Southern than not, Slurri, I will find you and literally kiss your ass.

    Preferably with some old daguerrotypes or photos, though I'll settle for paintings if need be.

    AND NICE INFANTRY! Badass. I love the flag.
    how is this?

    and in red text.
    Last edited by ★Bandiera Rossa☭; March 27, 2009 at 11:05 PM.
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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Quote Originally Posted by Hinkel View Post
    Very poor Union militia. Dont look at the flag..


    Those are actually pretty good, did you make them yourself? If you did, those could definitely be a good start. I'm going to start getting state flags and see how we can make the recruiting special units from each state thing work.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor_of_Italy View Post
    Those are actually pretty good, did you make them yourself? If you did, those could definitely be a good start. I'm going to start getting state flags and see how we can make the recruiting special units from each state thing work.
    They look good btw you going to switch to the updated avatar?
    One word to describe myself? Ostrobogulous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slurricane View Post
    They look good btw you going to switch to the updated avatar?
    I did. By the way, how do we get hosted?




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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor_of_Italy View Post
    I did. By the way, how do we get hosted?
    Do you mean how do you get a mod forum? You need to run for 3 months first before you will even be considered for it.. this thread says more.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/annou...p?f=1076&a=245

    I haven't even got one yet lol.

    edit: why didn't you link your sig?
    One word to describe myself? Ostrobogulous.

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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Quote Originally Posted by Slurricane View Post
    Do you mean how do you get a mod forum? You need to run for 3 months first before you will even be considered for it.. this thread says more.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/annou...p?f=1076&a=245


    I haven't even got one yet lol.

    edit: why didn't you link your sig?
    Wow that's pretty complicated...

    And I don't know how to link it, sorry.
    Last edited by Emperor_of_Italy; March 27, 2009 at 11:40 PM.




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    Default Re: American Civil War : The Blue and the Gray

    Great job guys
    lol on 0% percent, but just wait, some people will start joining in your team.
    If only God gave all of us the knowledge of modding, we would've been done in just 3 months lol

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