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    My english project due next monday requires that I compare two works of literature (one class related, and one not,) along with their respective themes. I chose to compare Lord of the Rings to the short poem Miniver Cheevy, pasted below.

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    Miniver Cheevy

    Miniver Cheevy, child of scorn,
    Grew lean while he assailed the seasons;
    He wept that he was ever born,
    And he had reasons.

    Miniver loved the days of old
    When swords were bright and steeds were prancing;
    The vision of a warrior bold
    Would set him dancing.

    Miniver sighed for what was not,
    And dreamed, and rested from his labors;
    He dreamed of Thebes and Camelot,
    And Priam's neighbors.

    Minever mourned the ripe renown
    That made so many a name so fragrant;
    He mourned Romance, now on the town,
    And Art, a vagrant.

    Minever loved the Medici,
    Albeit he had never seen one;
    He would have sinned incessantly
    Could he have been one.

    Miniver cursed the commonplace
    And eyed a khaki suit with loathing;
    He missed the mediæval grace
    Of iron clothing.

    Miniver scorned the gold he sought,
    But sore annoyed was he without it;
    Miniver thought, and thought, and thought,
    And thought about it.

    Miniver Cheevy, born too late,
    Scratched his head and kept on thinking;
    Miniver coughed, and called it fate,
    And kept on drinking.


    What am I hoping to get out of this?
    I admit that, starved for time and ideas, I chose these two works. I have to write a three page paper (which isn't all that bad,) but also create a five minute presentation to give in front of the class. Lord of the Rings and Miniver Cheevy may be a little bit of a stretch, Im not sure. I've tried to be as objective with this as possible despite being such a Tolkien fan. What I would like to draw and compare from each work is a theme relating to Lost Glory, i.e. Lost Glory can be obtained, but not through despondency, or something along those lines. I could make the case for loss of identity in rough times, and also for man conflicting with modern society. What do you guys think? What is the best common theme I can draw from these?

    Thanks in advance,
    -Arv
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    I think Tolkien is a mediocre novelist, but if you insist on using him, I recommend reading Jorge Luis Borges' short story 'Tlon...' You will encounter a writer with actual talent and an ability to create worlds far more interesting and unique than Tolkien ever did.

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    Miniver Cheevy is the inflexible component, LOTR is the flexible one.
    Still, its very late in the game for me to change... I prefer to make due with what I have, I just need to know if its a valid comparison or not. Otherwise, I have to scrounge my english textbook for a work and try to apply it to one of the few pieces of fiction I have actually read. LOTR is one of them.
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    LOTR has more to do with metaphysical concerns than a hankering for days of old. You need to choose a work that, thematically, deals more with nostalgia and compare them on that basis.

    By the way, what class is this for? I presume English, but that poem is pretty bad

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    This is for English XD

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    Default Re: Lit. Analysis Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Absalom, Absalom! View Post
    By the way, what class is this for? I presume English, but that poem is pretty bad
    I thought it was me who couldn't read it right, but I 'm not the only one, I see. It's bad.

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