Technically this is Mac's thread, so he has to decide what to do next.
Wow what timing... I had just recently taken an interest in Cair Andros's history after fighting several heated battles over it as Harad.
The Ship of Long Foam.
It had that name because of rocks that split the water on one end producing foam/white water.
Since most of the truely evil ones were Maiar (Morgoroth was an big exception) they go no where. They just turn to a spirit form and have little to no power.
Last edited by The Forgotten; August 26, 2012 at 12:22 PM.
Many thanks to the good folks down at the Graphics Workshop for the sig.
The fact that Men must remain mortal, and cannot reach the Undying Lands (ironically also called "the gift of men"). This is why the Valar could only grant the Numenoreans long life compared to other men, not make them immortal, and is also why the Numenoreans ultimately became jealous of the elves.
List the great-grandparents that Elfwine (19th King of Rohan) and Elboron (2nd Prince of Ithilien) have in common. Since some are not explicitly named in the text, "<x>'s father/mother/wife" is fine for those.
Edited for clarity on the complete answer.
Last edited by Wolfeson; August 28, 2012 at 05:16 AM.
Hmm, still no takers? There's actually several good sources out there for this.
Hint: I know Elfwine and Elboron themselves aren't very well-known, but these are Eomer's and Faramir's sons, respectively. That should give a good starting point to work back their family trees.
I'll give it another day or so, and if no one takes a stab at it, I'll come up with another question.
Those 4 are correct, however there are 2 more great-grandparents that they share. They fall under one of the categories you mentioned, but you missed those specific 2. These two are the ones who aren't explicitly named in the text, so just tell me whose father/mother they are, and you're good.
Exactly. I was actually a bit surprised to see how much of the family tree the descendants of the Stewards of Gondor and Kings of Rohan share following the intermarriage-fest that happens at the end of RoTK. They better not do that again for a few generations or they're in for some serious pedigree collapse. Interestingly, there may actually be another overlap somewhere, because one thing I read suggested that Imrahil and Theoden had a blood tie of some kind (one would think this would also be through Morwen). Anyone know more on that?
Anyway, your turn.
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