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[Redgrave]

I'll ask the question now, and if someone could rep me I'd appreciate it

Name all of the riddles (and their answers) that Gollum asked Bilbo and vice versa. They don't have to be in any specific order.

[Flinn]

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• What has roots as nobody sees,
  Is taller than trees,
  Up, up it goes,
  And yet never grows?
  
  • Gollum to Bilbo, answer: mountain
  
  

• Thirty white horses on a red hill,
  First they champ,
  Then they stamp,
  Then they stand still.
  
  • Bilbo to Gollum, answer: teeth.
  
  

• Voiceless it cries,
  Wingless flutters,
  toothless bites,
  Mouthless mutters.
  
  • Gollum to Bilbo, answer: wind
  
  

• An eye in a blue face
  Saw an eye in a green face.
  "That eye is like to this eye"
  Said the first eye,
  "but in low place
  Not in high place."
  
  • Bilbo to Gollum, answer: sun on the daisies
  
  

• It cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
  Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt.
  It lies behind stars and under hills,
  And empty holes it fills.
  It comes first and follows after,
  Ends life, kills laughter.
  
  • Gollum to Bilbo, answer: dark
  
  

• A box without hinges, key, or lid,
  yet golden treasure inside is hid.
  
  • Bilbo to Gollum, answer: egg
  
  

• Alive without breath,
  As cold as death;
  Never thirsty, ever drinking,
  All in mail never clinking.
  
  • Gollum to Bilbo, answer: fish
  
  

• No-legs lay on one-leg,
  Two-legs sat near on three-legs,
  Four-legs got some.
  
  • Bilbo to Gollum, answer: fish on a little table, man at table sitting on a stool, the cat has the bones
  
  

• This thing all things devours:
  Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
  Gnaws iron, bites steel;
  Grinds hard stones to meal;
  Slays king, ruins town,
  And beats high mountain down.
  
  • Gollum to Bilbo, answer: time

• and finally the (in)famous question: "What have I got in my pocket?"

I put them into spoiler for your convenience, they should be all

ah and Redgrave has been repped

[Macilrille]

By me as well, but then- he obviously likes his rep from his Sig ;-)

[Redgrave]

Flinn- wrong, you didn't give the answer to the last riddle

Only joking, of course you got it right! Well done, and your go.

[Flinn]

By me as well, but then- he obviously likes his rep from his Sig ;-)

uh, ok dosen't matter that much, I'm sure he will offer us something in return

Flinn- wrong, you didn't give the answer to the last riddle

Only joking, of course you got it right! Well done, and your go.

you you..

ok let's remain on the same book, an easy one:

tell us the (known) story of the three elven swords that were recovered into the troll cave; from where they come, who used them and where they are supposed to be "now"

[Mhaedros]

Glamdring, Sting and Orcrist, all three from Gondolin. Gandalf wielded Glamdring but after the War of the Ring ended it was kept in Minas Tirith. Orcrist was wielded by Thorin Oakenshield, and was buried with him in Erebor. Sting was taken by Bilbo, but passed on to Frodo and eventually Samwise Gamgee. It became a heirloom of the Gamgee family after the War of the Ring.

There are theories on how they came to be in the troll cave, for example Scatha the dragon took them to Middle Earth, where they were scavenged by either Fram someone else.

Hoping thats what you mean with "now"

[Flinn]

Hoping thats what you mean with "now"

yep

as far as my knowledge goes your answer is correct, so take your turn, someone please rep Mhaedros for me as I can't

[Macilrille]

Mhaedros is NOT correct, at least not concerning Glamdring, and the theories on Scatha and Fram are ... theories. Ware of trusting LoTRWiki.

[Bladvak]

Repped Mhaedros.

He's quite lucky I had a town-wide power shutdown right in the middle of me writing the answer...

[Macilrille]

Mhaedros is unjustly repped, he was not correct.

[Bladvak]

Give arguments and Flinn will judge your case ^_^.

As for me, well, I don't mind repping.

[Mhaedros]

Mhaedros is NOT correct, at least not concerning Glamdring, and the theories on Scatha and Fram are ... theories. Ware of trusting LoTRWiki.

Which is why I said "there are theories" and not "it's a fact" before the Scatha - Fram thing.

If I was wrong about Glamdring, then I do not deserve the rep that was given me.

[Macilrille]

Ha ha ha Bladvak. Flinn is a fine fellow, and a nice guy and knows enough. But, and I know he will not get offended, so be so kind as to not be so on his behalf, when it comes to Lore he is not in a position to judge me. The only one here who is my equal in Lore is the kind Swede. If I answer, I close the question for others.

I can give a hint though, look in LoTR, "Homeward bound". Then you will know that Glamdring did not end up in Minas Anor.

[Flinn]

mmm ok here comes the man

@ Mac, I was convinced too that Glamdring left with Gandalf when he sailed from the Grey Havens, but in effect there is no direct source reporting it and

On 29 September, T.A. 3021,^[11] Gandalf left Middle-earth and sailed into the West.^[12] Whether he took Glamdring with him is never mentioned, and is open to debate. It can be argued that he brought it over the Sea, like he did with Shadowfax,^[13] and because he had been carrying the sword for over 80 years. There would, however, be little need for a weapon in Valinor, as there was little love left for any weapon in the Blessed Realm after the First Kinslaying.

and I had too in mind that the only hint was that it ended up to be shown as a hirelom like Sting, though IIRC it was not said where and it is probable that it left for Aman, or this is what we could guess.

To have a full answer I could have asked for more details (i.e. Glamdring was property of Turgon, etc), but mostly what I was looking for was to know about the "end" of each of them, maybe a composite answer for Glamdring would have been the best one; next time I will take more time to make the question, is just that I don't like people waiting for me

anyway, this answer is already given, as for me there is no sense to keep it go now.

if Mhaedros wants to take the turn I have no problems

But, and I know he will not get offended, so be so kind as to not be so on his behalf, when it comes to Lore he is not in a position to judge me. The only one here who is my equal in Lore is the kind Swede.

and makes me mad that both of you don't play .. grrrr

[Mhaedros]

Anyone can go ahead and take the question, can't come up with a good one.

One last comment about Glamdring, I'm convinced Gandalf did not bring it to Valinor, for the reasons in Flinn's quote. It just wouldn't make sense to bring a weapon there, he had played his role as the warrior and went back to his role as a Maia. He might have carried it around after the War of the Ring and before he left for Valinor, but for the same reason any traveler would carry a sword; bandits, thieves that kind of stuff. The love he had for Shadowfax can't be compared to his sword.

I'm not saying it did or that it didn't, but there isn't actually any proof it didn't end up in Minas Anor Mac

[Flinn]

Anyone can go ahead and take the question, can't come up with a good one.

would you like to help us, Mac?

[Macilrille]

I actually sent Mhaedros a good question he could ask, for I kind of like him and want to be helpful. But if he does not ask it soon, I will.

[Mhaedros]

Sorry, completely forgot about that I'll just go ahead and ask it then

When Hurin arrives at the Haladin marches (borders), he is found by who? And who argues what in the exchange over his sleeping body?

[Macilrille]

Come on guys, you wanted less known questions. Go read that very tragic tale of Hurin's wanderings.

[Flinn]

the question is a little bit tricky: when Húrin arrived in Brethil he was spotted by night sentilens, who at any rate didn't stop him, then he met his wife Morven at the memorial stone for their children.

anyway, I do believe the question is related to the men of Brethil that discovered Húrin while he was sleeping at the Haudh-en-Elleth, if so Sagroth was the one who found him.

and, assuming that exchange means discussion:

Forhend suggested to thrust Húrin out of Brethil, foreseeing problems, while Avranc actually suggested to cowardly kill him; at this moment Manthor (the only true man within the Haladin people at the time), troubled by Avranc's words, woke Húrin.

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Húrin is, by far, my favourite character amongst the Edain, though much that he did resolved into bad outcomes, his firm nature, coupled by his strength, makes him to be the perfect prototype of the ideal warrior, who does not bend and does not ask for mercy.