Is the Elder scrolls single player dead?

[Basileus of Byzantium]

I wanna hear the thoughts of people here. Since the announcement of The Elder Scrolls Online there's been a lot of backlash from what I've seen and this response struck me out the most and what caused me to ask this question:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=16484
IMO I don't like the idea of an Elder Scrolls Online, I don't like MMOs in general, but to say that the single player series is gone forever and won't be made anymore with the coming of an online version seems to be jumping the shark especially when the MMO is made by a different dev group, ZeniMax Online Studios, made by ZeniMax to specialize in MMOs, formed of people who've worked in the MMO industry. The Elderscrolls Team, Bethesda Game Studios/Softworks, won't have a hand in developing this save for maybe lore advice.

So... is the Elderscrolls series gone forever, no more sequels and such? Or will it continue regardless of an MMO version?

[Justice and Mercy]

It's nonsense, through and through. It might take another 5 or 6 years as I suspect that Bethesda will make another Fallout game first, but there'll be another.

[Mhaedros]

I'm pretty certain the SP's won't end. Anyway, why on earth have you hidden the results?

[Manco]

The very fact that it's done by a different team all together should be evidence that obviously the SP TES games aren't done.

[Basileus of Byzantium]

I'm pretty certain the SP's won't end. Anyway, why on earth have you hidden the results?

Oh god I messed up sorry bout that . How do I go about changing that, I don't know how to edit the poll.

[Szlachta]

Yes, it died with the joke that is Skyrim.

[NotYetRegistered]

Yes, it died with the joke that is Skyrim.

I think you might be the only one who despises Skyrim.

[Szlachta]

I think you might be the only one who despises Skyrim.

For one, I don't despise it, and no, a lot of (most) vets think its a total joke. Only a newb would think its a real ES game. Too many fundamentals of the series missing.

[Gandalfus]

Why do the vets who want all the "fundamentals" hate on skyrim.
It's an ENTERTAINING game. IMO that's all that matters.

[Szlachta]

Why do the vets who want all the "fundamentals" hate on skyrim.
It's an ENTERTAINING game. IMO that's all that matters.

Because we don't want less. To new players, everything is more, to us, all we did was lose things, and were given a less entertaining game. And its not 'hating', LOL at people that say 'hating', its being critical of the best (was the best) RPG series. How could someone who's played Daggerfall and Morrowind want Skyrim AKA Oblivion .5?

[Gandalfus]

That's want I meant by "hating"
It's my way of saying "critically commenting upon said object"
It is the best RPG series at the moment. And what do you mean by "losing stuff" ?
Mysticism and illusion were wastes of skills anyway, they should have been combined with alteration.

[Szlachta]

That's want I meant by "hating"
It's my way of saying "critically commenting upon said object"
It is the best RPG series at the moment. And what do you mean by "losing stuff" ?
Mysticism and illusion were wastes of skills anyway, they should have been combined with alteration.

That's not 'hating'... We get it, you don't know what was taken out in the first place. LOL, there's still Illusion, its spell effects list was just butchered (along with all of the schools spell effects list). And no, Mysticism shouldn't have been cut, but the butchering of magic lore isn't what I'm talking about anyway. Its the cut mechanics and features, a real fan knows what these are.

[Gandalfus]

Ummm... I played oblivion and Morrowind, I think I know what was taken out...
Classes for example. Different horse speeds.silver weapons.

[Szlachta]

Ummm... I played oblivion and Morrowind, I think I know what was taken out...
Classes for example. Different horse speeds.silver weapons.

Guess you didn't, since silver weapons are in Skyrim, and classes/horse speeds are not what I'm talking about, although classes hints at attributes, which we did lose, and was a huge customization loss. Now all builds with relatively similar skills, all feel the exact same. And horse speed variety is another example of dumbing down, but not as big as the ones I'm about to list.

Fundamentals of the series which were cut from Skyrim:


Attributes
Spell Creation
Acrobatics and run speed variables
H2H skill
Degradation
Totally neutered spell effects list
Totally neutered greater and lesser powers list

Sadly, I can keep going. With these features gone, Skyrim isn't even ES V, its Redguard 2.0 with choosable races.

[Gandalfus]

Silver weapons? Never seen one. Not that I can recall anyway... I meant the ones that the guards carry and such?
And for the record I DID play Morrowind and oblivion...

[Szlachta]

Silver weapons? Never seen one. Not that I can recall anyway... I meant the ones that the guards carry and such?
And for the record I DID play Morrowind and oblivion...

Silver Hands carry them.

[Gandalfus]

Exactly... I meant as a weapon you can get by not following a certain questline and is actually not that hard to find
And yes... There are less spells which I think is stupid. They were an we some part of oblivion. And Stamina comes into running and jumping

[Szlachta]

Exactly... I meant as a weapon you can get by not following a certain questline and is actually not that hard to find
And yes... There are less spells which I think is stupid. They were an we some part of oblivion. And Stamina comes into running and jumping

You can still get silver weapons other ways, and you don't have to start any questline to get them. Not sure what you mean about the whole stamina thing. There's no overall run, or jump variable anymore. I cant run any faster or jump any higher that you can when you start a character. That is a ing joke and a slap in the face to diversity and fundamentals of the series.

[Gandalfus]

Less Armour + more stamina = faster run speed, more stamina helps run speed increase and encumberance decrease

[Szlachta]

Less Armour + more stamina = faster run speed, more stamina helps run speed increase and encumberance decrease

No it doesn't. More stamina does not up your speed. There is no more speed variable. I cant increase my run speed. I can sprint, or not wear armor (both of which are not increasing speed), but that's it. No actual increasing speed like in every other ES game. 4 times you've posted wrong info about Skyrim. Go play it and come back to me.

They effectively put Earth (Fallout) limitations on Nirn, which is a total slap in the face to lore and playstyle choice, since superhuman movement is more than lore prevalent throughout the series.

Pathetically, Skyrim was made for the pick up and play lowest common denominator.

Even the remaining crafting systems got neutered, like enchanting and alchemy. Now shells of their former self.

I'm still trying to figure out how the Todd Howard that headed Morrowind is the same Todd that said such idiotic things as: "Spell Creation was too spreadsheety." To who, Todd? People that can't count to one hundred, or need a helmet to cross the street? That would say: "Birth-signs were ruining peoples builds." Who's builds, Todd? People that cant take the time to read a sentence description of what they are picking, the same people that probably criticized because the lack of choices? This is who you'll target the game to? The illiterate, and lazy? you Todd, you ruined the ES, by pandering to the unreceptive twitcher, the pick up and play 'next best thing-er', the neophyte nooblet, the lowest common denominator of gaming...


Skyrim is acceptable...if your into having less of everything, and having your hand held like a complete newb.