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At the moment, it would be a bit of a waste of money for Germany to increase its forces. It has no enemies (politically) bordering it even though the Slavs have become bolder, they are no threat. But without practice and drilling, arts and weapons of war are lost. Germany still mainlains world class status when it comes to Armoured Vehicles and their armament, submarine design (the Americans still base their designs on stolen technology from 1945), small arms/heavy weapons and electronic systems. However there is a gap in aircraft design. The Luftwaffe is still a ceremonial service having very little in the way of resources, training and equipment comparitively.
So this should be addressed but leave everything else. Let the Slav prance around boldy for a while longer.
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Germany need not expand its forces. They are already adequately large.
The re-rolling and specialisation of 3 or 4 Brigades (with a logistics brigade, and suitable combat and logistical air assets) in the short term as an experimental light expeditionary force would allow them to better contribute to NATO operations and more disaster relief/peacekeeping work without over stretching their military, which is just not shaped for much action abroad. They could hone their skills as their were, and once they could handle the logistical and force projection side of things, they could, if they so wished ramp it up a bit, or of course, scrap the project and rotate the new brigades on peacekeeping operations. Although I do not see why a larger force would be required, perhaps an extra reserve brigade or 2.
At this present time, it would be difficult to justify the spending though. If it came with a downsizing of what is possibly an over-large force however...
Edit. According to the MOD, we are looking to sign such an agreement, my mistake. Still allows for the interest though.
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The ceremonial Luftwaffe is "an ornament in peace and a defence in war."
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Besides, many NATO countries only send token forces to places where they're needed like A-stan, and it's only close american allies like britain who are willing to shed blood for NATO/American geopolitics
Oh, now they want German help!
I think this is good article of how Germany will not be militarized soon they are fine as they are and ironicaly the Western Powers created the "monster" as it know stands.
Germany is sitting on top of the world. But the rest of the world thinks it's getting too comfortable up there. The country has come roaring out of the global financial crisis, boasting one of the strongest economies in the West and seemingly poised for years of rising exports ahead.
Germany's answer? Business as usual suits us fine"
why waste money and resources on useless toys you will never get to play with
just stupid really.
Grow? Why, just specialise more. They could specialise and build something with the equivalent reputation of the SAS without expanding military force numerically, get the best Bundeswehr possible and go from there. You don't need numbers, it has become less important in the modern age.
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Originally Posted by mangalore
This line made me giggle.Germany's historic reluctance to deploy and operate overseas
On the one hand, I think Germany needs to be prepared to defend itself and should stop relying on NATO (i.e. mostly America with some British help) to pull the weight for it. Yet with a stronger military, their government will be more inclined to get in senseless overseas conflicts like the Iraq War.
For those of us who've played the economic waiting game in Shogun 2, we know it's pointless to maintain more than a bare minimum of troops in order to spend minimum resources on them and grow the economy, the trick being the ability to recognize when it's time to increase military spending and having the infrastructure available to recruit and train those troops as well as construct their equipment.
That's why I feel Europe as a whole should sustain a military industrial complex, small but fairly complete. If the Americans feel the need for out of area operations, let them do it, and send along some token forces to maintain both relations and the troops' edge.
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i want to see a german aircraft carrier
i want to see fleets of german rockets launching german spacecraft into orbit
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I doubt that Germany has the will for military expansion, After 2 huge conflicts which cost it massive casualties and loss of territory.
It will take it at least another couple of generations to think along those lines again.
Anyway I would not think that Germany fancies joining Britain in an attack on Iran or Syria if it comes to it.
Now Merkel has been doing well with boosting German influence within Europe, Although she forgot one vital ingredient you must give nations hope not just hardship, If you want to attain your goal.
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