Retrofit Mod - The Young Bloods Hotseat IV

[invicta]

You can download a free to use software capturing here >> www.fraps.com
It makes hotseats more enjoyable if we get to screenshots of other battles so people know what is going on in the campaign.

Screenshots would be anyway needed for checking many things,and not just if battles are played or not
Moreover see what others do is instructive and increase trust among players (sometimes we might be surprised to get defeated, and see how that happened would avoid unnecessary suspicions)

[Anjinsansa]

Can anyone point me in the direction of some general instructions for hotseat games?
I am thinking about how to save and post my screenshots and savegames etc
Remember I am HS NOOB before you flame I just want to make sure I am not going to hold anything up

[Tonno]

It might be we are starting this to fast.

Posting a save is np... I'll write it down just a sec.

[Tonno]

I'll try to short it up, if anyone don't understand it send me a PM and I'll explain it more detailed.

Player that is on turn before you will post his turn attached to his post, it will always be on the bottom of the post, in .rar fiel.
Something like this: (click on show to see the pic )

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Then you press that little thingy and a download will start, I hope, the save will be rared, you unpacke it to your desktop (for example) then copy, or cut, it to the save folder: something like this \Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\retrofit\saves---> if you don't have save folder just make one, or play a few turns in the SP campaing.
After you copied the turn and played (make a password for your save) it like a boss, press end turn and other nations turn will come up. You save on the opening screen (you will see that) and get out of the game.
Then you get to the save folder and rename the save with the name of the faction that is next on turn.
Rar or zip it. Go to the thread of the game (this thread) and post the save in a totaly new post.
How to upload save.
Use this :

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After you click it it should look something like this:

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Don't mind my beautifal language . You press search and find your charming save, upload it and at the end it should look like on the first pic I posted.

I think I didn't miss anything important.
PS
Sorry for the bad english

[Desley]

I will start this hotseat in 2 hours, otherwise it will be tomorrow, I am trying to find out how to change the faction turn order.

[SlartyBartfast]

Does this Retrofit Mod work with the latest version of kingdoms?

[Desley]

You mean 1.5? yes it is required.

[SlartyBartfast]

Thank you. That's all I needed to know. Thanks for setting this up btw.

[Tonno]

I was messeging a explanation of some rules to one of the players, and thought maybe I should post it in the thread for everyone, just in case.
So take your time and read it, slowly, so you can understand my crapy words. And be prepared for this kind of long posts, cuz when someone makes a mistake, usualy ppl start spaming the thread.

3. Is missing one more part, but more and more HSs play with that kind of rule.
Armies that are defeated in battle by a player that comes after them in the turn list may not move the following turn. This is to make it fair for people who are defeated by players that come before them in the turn list.

---->Well this one is easy to understand just try to read it a few times and you'll see what the point is.
So lets say that France is behind England in turn order.
So the English is like "lets kill this mf France". And France is like "no no no", but they still have to defend, right. English sends an army in France . (If some Frech units get defeated by English one, on English turn, that French army will not be able to move when France turn comes up---> duo to game mechanics) So to make it fair for every one: If France (they are behind the English on turn) defeats a English army that army is not allowed to move next turn from the spot they retreated to, althought they will be able to, cuz when turn ends and new one starts, all armys, agents and sutff gets their movement back--->duo to game mechanics.

No attacking ships inside a port. Similarly, you cannot leave a blocked port without fighting the enemy ships first. Because of this rule, armies cannot be on a fleet that is in port.

There is a bug in the game, usualy you can't attack ships in a port, but there is a way to do so. So to prevent that exploit, you are not allowed to attack ships in a port-simple. As your port is blocked, you are not allowed to leave that port until you fight enemy ships thaz are blocking the port, althought you can-> probably bug as well.
The last part with units in ship that is in port is a long story with tone of discussion behind it. Short version is, players are greedy and they will do anything for a win. So as your ships are protected in a port cuz of the rule, some players where exploiting that and puting units in ships that are in port, what is Godlike protection= you can't attack it from the land cuz of the game mech, and you can't attack it from the sea cuz of the rule.
It's exploit of the game mech and so it's baned. I hope I am clear.

Only ONE merchant per resource, if you place more merchants on a single resource you will get a heavy fine.

---> there is one more explot ( oh realy ), well I never tryed this one so I don't know if it realy works. Story goes like this: you can build a fort next to a resource (for example gold one ) we all know that fort can have agents in him and 12 of them. So you put 12 good merchants on a gold resource. Think about the cash you would get----> EXPLOIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you are allowed to put only one merchant over a resource. End of story. I hope you liked it.

PS
If I posted something wrond, older and better players pleas speak up so we can edit the wrong parts.

EDIT
Ah, post is not that long.

[tyboman]

guess it starts tomorrow?

[Gimli]

guess it starts tomorrow?

[Desley]

When I get home, I will start it.

[Julio85]

Next, I want to play too! I never played in this way, I'm curious!

[Lord Valerius]

Hey Julio, you could also join other Hotseats, for this one will go for a while I believe. But some players tend to become inactive during a game so spots might become available here as well, so stay tuned. You can also play at more than one HS at a time, it is not very time consuming after all.


Regards

[Antoniusz]

Should we implement a little bit of RP in our negotiations/writing messagess in the topic?

[Lord Valerius]

I'd like that, but I wouldn't make it mandatory for everyone.

[Tonno]

Should we implement a little bit of RP in our negotiations/writing messagess in the topic?

Of course...

[Rero]

Well i hope atleast that there won't be a really angry huge unified blob of catholics knocking on Jerusalems gate...

[Tonno]

Well i hope atleast that there won't be a really angry huge unified blob of catholics knocking on Jerusalems gate...

It's retrofit, Egypt and Turky always die pretty fast .
So make good/great diplomacy, and great tactical plans. You'll need both to stay long in the game. Maybe with all human players that will be a bit easier as there won't be a lot of room for fast expanding of Europian countrys= a lot of pvp. But remember diplomacy works wonders.

[Desley]

The first save will be up in 1hour.