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    Default Foreign Trade.

    I think they kinda need to fix the foreign trade system.
    I dont know if this is a bug or not but this is the story.
    I started my campaign as chosu and i wanted to have trade with the french and get there units/ships.
    in my first 20 or so turns i got 2 trade requests from britain and 2 or 3 from america i declined them all as i wanted to trade with france.
    I am now on turn 150 and have not had a request since so now im stuck with no foerign trade at all so i cant get those big ironclads or elite marine units.
    I have done 4 campaigns with similar result u get 4-5 trade requests the first 20 or so turns then nothing.
    Any1 else had this or just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattebubben View Post
    I think they kinda need to fix the foreign trade system.
    I dont know if this is a bug or not but this is the story.
    I started my campaign as chosu and i wanted to have trade with the french and get there units/ships.
    in my first 20 or so turns i got 2 trade requests from britain and 2 or 3 from america i declined them all as i wanted to trade with france.
    I am now on turn 150 and have not had a request since so now im stuck with no foerign trade at all so i cant get those big ironclads or elite marine units.
    I have done 4 campaigns with similar result u get 4-5 trade requests the first 20 or so turns then nothing.
    Any1 else had this or just me?


    The Imperial clans cannot get France as foreign support, and the Shogunate cannot get Britian. America can work for both.

    There are, like, 90 threads about this already.
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    Default Re: Foreign Trade.

    Quote Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra View Post


    The Imperial clans cannot get France as foreign support, and the Shogunate cannot get Britian. America can work for both.

    There are, like, 90 threads about this already.
    I thought this was an old thread being resurrected, they're all so similar! D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra View Post


    The Imperial clans cannot get France as foreign support, and the Shogunate cannot get Britian. America can work for both.

    There are, like, 90 threads about this already.
    oh didnt know that thanks =>
    but still its not about that.
    Its the 4-5 Requests and then nothing.
    So if u Chancle on those for what ever reason u can never get it.

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    Oh, ok, Im sorry. I misunderstood.

    About that, I do not know. I assumed it was a feature.
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    If you kept getting denied your trade request wouldn't you get the feeling that the clan you are asking doesn't want your trade? I'd stop.
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    I don't know, maybe the trade option events might have been scripted just for those few turns. But one thing is certain, imperial clans can never get France and shogunate ones can never get Britain. If you turned down your "default" foreign trading partners too many times, the offer might have lapsed or the randomness of the event would make it highly unlikely to encounter it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamWarrior View Post
    If you kept getting denied your trade request wouldn't you get the feeling that the clan you are asking doesn't want your trade? I'd stop.
    u must have missunderstood.
    im not talking about normal trade request im talking about the foreign trade support event thing.
    With France britain or America.

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    i know that now but i still have to restart my entire campaign to be able to get a trading partner now wich kinda sucks =( since i dont wanna start over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattebubben View Post
    i know that now but i still have to restart my entire campaign to be able to get a trading partner now wich kinda sucks =( since i dont wanna start over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattebubben View Post
    u must have missunderstood.
    im not talking about normal trade request im talking about the foreign trade support event thing.
    With France britain or America.
    I understood the question but if the foriegn powers keep offering their help and you keep denieing it they won't keep asking. It's probely just scripted but my point of view makes it more realistic.

    They should however give you the option of asking the foriegn powers for help rather then let them ask you however.
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    Default Re: Foreign Trade.

    Do britain, france and usa have any individual strengths or are thye all the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PandaChef View Post
    Do britain, france and usa have any individual strengths or are thye all the same?
    Different ships/units.
    the ships are the big difference.
    The naval side is a BIT unbalanced but there are several thread on that subject.
    Long story short 1 of the british ships can take out fleets alone.
    Its alot more expensive then the others and u cant have as many as the other foreign ships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattebubben View Post
    Different ships/units.
    the ships are the big difference.
    The naval side is a BIT unbalanced but there are several thread on that subject.
    Long story short 1 of the british ships can take out fleets alone.
    Its alot more expensive then the others and u cant have as many as the other foreign ships.
    The Warrior. It can take on whole fleets alone. You only get one. But don`t get cocky as it can be overwhelmed if you don`t get it back to Port and keep fixing it up. Also leaving around enemy Ports with coastal defences for a couple of turns will quickly have it swimming with the fishes too.
    A plea to CA: Please give us NON-STEAM OPTIONS such as with GOG.COM`s Alan Wake and Witcher 2, etc. Even allow a system such that Mount and Blade Uses. Many of us will pay extra for a Steam-free version of RTW2.
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    2. It discriminates between internet users and non-users or those who simply do not want it.
    3. The `advantages` are only advantages in a very small and superficial manner. They do not counter the disadvantages.
    4. It suits the company way more than the user. We are simply told it`s better for us
    Finally,I shall not give CA|SEGA my money for RTW2 while it forces Steam on me. They have given us no good reason why it must be so. Basically they don`t care.

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    Noo. Double post.
    A plea to CA: Please give us NON-STEAM OPTIONS such as with GOG.COM`s Alan Wake and Witcher 2, etc. Even allow a system such that Mount and Blade Uses. Many of us will pay extra for a Steam-free version of RTW2.
    The use of STEAM-ONLY by CA is ethically wrong because:
    1. It does not need to be forced. It could be optional as other games have proven.
    2. It discriminates between internet users and non-users or those who simply do not want it.
    3. The `advantages` are only advantages in a very small and superficial manner. They do not counter the disadvantages.
    4. It suits the company way more than the user. We are simply told it`s better for us
    Finally,I shall not give CA|SEGA my money for RTW2 while it forces Steam on me. They have given us no good reason why it must be so. Basically they don`t care.

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    There's some difference in the land units too..
    French being best in ranged, worst in melee. (Also being the most expensive, though the difference is +50 to marines, +100 to US marines and i think +10 / +20 upkeep compared to RM / USM)
    Royal marines are in between on both.
    US Marines have better melee, slightly worse accuracy / reload rate.

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    I think the global differences are this:


    Britain: Gives you improved ship accuracy.
    USA: Improved Artillery accuracy.
    France: ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niftyeye View Post
    I think the global differences are this:


    Britain: Gives you improved ship accuracy.
    USA: Improved Artillery accuracy.
    France: ???
    Logical upgrade from France would most likely be infantry unit accuracy. Probably +5, since ship / artillery accuracy seems to be that.
    But I can't recall right now, even though I took french military mission in my Jozai Campaign few weeks ago..

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