Chilean & Peruvian 1880

[carricanta]

http://razonyfuerza.mforos.com/66969...acifico/?pag=2

[Tango12345]

Neither Chile nor Peru are going to be in this mod as we cannot mod the map and it does not stretch that far south.

[Pazu the Kitsune]

carricanta if you can help us with either Colombia or Venezuela during this timeframe we could really use it

[Tango12345]

Though we are still quite a way away from those factions, and they probably will not be in the first release. (if we were to do all the factions in one release then it would be a nightmare to get it released in a reasonable time.)

[carricanta]

carricanta if you can help us with either Colombia or Venezuela during this timeframe we could really use it

Any faction more?

[Pazu the Kitsune]

Any faction more?

No not really, those are the only South American factions that appear in the mod, theres a number of other latin american factions though (Mexico, Guatemala, Panama, Cuba...)

Like Tango said we wont be focusing on those factions for a while but any info you could provide would be useful (even if its just info you send to me via PM )

EDIT

Just noticed that you are from Spain, afaik thats a faction that we could really use help with atm ^^

[Tango12345]

Just noticed that you are from Spain, afaik thats a faction that we could really use help with atm ^^

To be honest, other factions are being worked on and Spain isn't likely to be one of the factions done in detail in the first version of the mod.

[PunitorMaximus]

why? spain had a quite big empire...

[Tango12345]

In 1865? Cuba and Puerto Rico are the only ones that are actually on the ETW map. They had already lost all of their other American territories.

[PunitorMaximus]

oh, but with military and economical outposts and they had still a strong army

[Tango12345]

They didn't have many outposts that are actually represented on the ETW map, and they were really past their prime by the 1860's-no longer affecting european politics in the same way for one thing. They will still be a major faction, but a line has to be drawn somewhere for version 1, and Spain is just on the wrong side of it.

[PunitorMaximus]

so i was wrong.....deduced this from my ww1 knowledge.

[Tango12345]

They still had some African territory, but that was it. They stayed neutral in WW1, the largest european country to do so, probably because a)they weren't threatened and b)they wouldn't be strong enough anyway.

[PunitorMaximus]

uhhm ya i know that they stayed neutral...
but not strong enough? despite their economical problems they had one of the best trained and equipped(khaki-green uniforms; m1916 was no joke) standing armies and a huge human cushion.
i dare to say that they could´ve extended(on CF side) or shortened(on allied side) the war up to 6 months. but thats just a what if-scenario.
ive to admit that i dont know much about spains situation in the midand late 19th century. thought it´d be similar to 1914

[Tango12345]

Well aside from losing Cuba I'm not sure much happened as far as foreign policy was concerned-there was a revolution in 1868 though.

And simply having green khaki and a standing army did not make you strong in early 20th century europe. By m1916 do you mean the machine gun or the year?

[PunitorMaximus]

as mentioned they were well trained which means familiar with modern tactics and they had their own special spanish mauser M1916. dunno why they got this, i think its because they were always very close to A-H (ya know, carl died in mexico) and germany. just type it in google pics. the rifle i mean

[Tango12345]

I know they were familiar with modern tactics and had modern weapons-every nation in Europe did at that point. I'm not sure of the direction this is going in?

[PunitorMaximus]

haha no of course not every faction used "modern" tactics
france for example. look at their heavy losses in the wars first weeks! not only because of their red throusers and dark blue uniforms, but because they tried to attack in lines......they had to change this very very quickly. 1914 artillery gave short shrift of late 19th century battle tactics
some seperate units were easy to hit too, f.e. the romanian cavalry or several greek evzone regiments(completely white uniforms plus red fez)
well as mentioned they learned quickly and introduced new uniforms.
however, hechtgrau(A-H), blue(portugal), dark and light blue (sveden, norway, belgium, romania) are no camouflage colours in my opinion. let alone the 1914 french uniform....
maybe interesting for your mod(if you dont know it by now): till 1914 the spanish army used a colourful range of different uniforms. most of them from the 1880s. from the blue-white striped infantry uniforms to the hussars red jackets and blue throusers. i can offer you some pictures
in 1914 they replaced them by khaki uniforms for the infantry and leaved the striped uniforms only to the colonial troops.
then, in 1916, they introduced khaki-green uniforms for all units, but still used the 1914 one. even the colonials got khaki ones, only the pith helmet remained.

[Pazu the Kitsune]

haha no of course not every faction used "modern" tactics
france for example. look at their heavy losses in the wars first weeks! not only because of their red throusers and dark blue uniforms, but because they tried to attack in lines......they had to change this very very quickly. 1914 artillery gave short shrift of late 19th century battle tactics
some seperate units were easy to hit too, f.e. the romanian cavalry or several greek evzone regiments(completely white uniforms plus red fez)
well as mentioned they learned quickly and introduced new uniforms.
however, hechtgrau(A-H), blue(portugal), dark and light blue (sveden, norway, belgium, romania) are no camouflage colours in my opinion. let alone the 1914 french uniform....
maybe interesting for your mod(if you dont know it by now): till 1914 the spanish army used a colourful range of different uniforms. most of them from the 1880s. from the blue-white striped infantry uniforms to the hussars red jackets and blue throusers. i can offer you some pictures
in 1914 they replaced them by khaki uniforms for the infantry and leaved the striped uniforms only to the colonial troops.
then, in 1916, they introduced khaki-green uniforms for all units, but still used the 1914 one. even the colonials got khaki ones, only the pith helmet remained.

But the mod ends in 1914 @_@

[PunitorMaximus]

ya, but he could use the stuff i found when i was researching