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    I'd defiantly with Post-Apocalyptia, as long as we make it a character driven one and not a nation driven one.


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    Since I got up early & had a spot of free time this morning, I decided to try to finish up as much of the post-apoc American map as possible. Check it out:

    North & Central America, c. 2565 AD/510 Post-Apocalyptic

    As you can see, the continent's largely consolidated under a number of modest to large kingdoms, with only a few minors around. I suppose you could say that what I had in mind was a setting that was pulling itself out of the immediate post-apocalyptic chaos & barbarism into a new era of civilization & order, or IOW, less Fallout 1/3 and more Fallout 2/New Vegas; some regions on the West & East Coasts will have even reestablished contact with Asia/Europe respectively, although on a very minor scale (as in, 'we know each other exist & have a vague idea of the factions on the other continent' + some missionary work & limited trade confined to a few metropolises at most) so far - no trans-Atlantic or Pacific invasions or extensive trade routes yet. If you guys want a character-driven game we could go for either the WEF approach (players control characters in various positions of power in a single faction) or the proper small-scale RPG route (you guys are soldiers in a faction's unit, a minor feudal lord & his vassals, or something). I can think of several factions that can work with either approach, honestly. But in the meantime, try to guess at each faction, their history & their objectives
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    I can accept an Ohio divided, but Toledo under Michigan? This I cannot abide

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    I'd play any of these, considering my tests are next week I should have more free times in the upcoming months.

    I guess the Neo Confederation is the Grey One? And some sort of Lousiana nation and is that some NCR like thingy in California?
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    Ok i'll have a go at guessing.
    Wasteland

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    South America- A disorganized wasteland of jungle tribes and warlords all vying for control of the remaining resources and usable land.

    The Caribbean- The Caribbean Confederation= An alliance of former English and american territories who have banded together into a somewhat functional government.

    Lower Central America- The Jungle Republic- The remnant of the former nations of the area banding together what resources and people it can produce to maintain it's ever shrinking territorial boundaries.

    Upper Central America- The Third Mexican Empire A totalitarian society ruled over by competing families that originated from the pre-war drug lords who took control of the former mexico following WW3.

    South Central United States- Republic of Texas - A fairly well organized country due in part to the large amount of infrastructure and population that survived the blasts. It's large land mass is still unsettled i many areas, It's once great cities have largely remained abandoned however some new settlements have developed along the ruins of these areas largely the chain of military installations to ward off invasion from the hostile Mexican Empire that stretches from the El Paso to Brownsville. as well as the large towns that have developed along the great western wind farms. A massive span of wind turbines that stretches across the western portion of the nation. These were build in large quantities following the fuel crises of the mid 21st century. While many of the older models have fallen into disrepair, a large number can still be maintained.

    Southwestern United States- California

    I think that Fallout pretty much covered it.

    Utah- ( ) A Mormon theocratic religious state.

    Northwestern United States-

    Great Plains- Great Plains Alliance

    Arkansas- The Republic of Arkansa- A Puppet state of The Republic of Texas, having been gained as a war concession from the Southern Confederation almost 100 years ago.

    Eastern Missouri- The Democratic State of Missouri (DSM) - Not wishing to join the Great Plains Alliance, eastern Missouri broke off of what remained of the form state of Missouri when it was being consolidated into the Great Plains Alliance. After a drawn out civil war the Missouri rebels with the help of Southern Confederacy managed to defeat the Plains Allince, thus gaining the DSM their independance.

    Mississippi-Alabama- Second Confederacy of States- The more radical component of the Southern Confederation, which broke off from the Confederation due to the belief that the Confederation was not upholding the beliefs and ideals of the the CSA of old. The government here is much more hostile to outsiders, militaristic, as well as being blatant racist.
    Southeastern United States- Southern Confederation

    Southern Florida- Republic of South Florida- Having broken off from northern Florida before the Great Nuclear War, to form its own state, South Florida kept this separation when the Southern Confederation was consolidating their boundaries, deciding to remain out of the Confederation. It is largely a backwater of hostile locals and mutated wildlife.

    Kentucky-West Virginia

    South Ohio-South Indiana

    Wisconsin-Illinois

    Michigan- Confederacy of the Great Lakes

    Northeastern United States- United States

    Nova Scotia-Newfoundland- United Duchy of Halifax

    Quebec- The 6th French Republic

    Ontario- The Ontarian Empire

    Manitoba- Canadian Kingdom of Manitoba

    British Columbia- Union of Britain

    Northwest Territories- The Northwest Confederation

    Alaska-

    Hawaii-

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    South Eastern United States - Neo-Confederacy (Similar to the actual Confederate States)
    Southern Florida - Tribals (Seminoles? Inbreed Swamp-folk?)
    Utah - Deseret (Latter-day Saints Theocracy)
    South West - New Californian Republic (Trying to recreate the old "American dream" in the same vein of the original one)
    Caribbean - Cuban Communists
    Blue in Canada - Kingdom of Quebec (Monarchist French Canada)
    Pink in Canada - Ontarian Kingdom (Monarchist English Canada)
    Green in Mexico - Third Mexican Empire (still plague by internal strife and the workings of powerful cartels)
    Mass in the center of the US - Various Horse People loosely united under one banner, including but not limited to native Americans who've left the reservations
    Hawaii - Kingdom of Hawaii (Natives who rose up against foreigners on their islands after/during the apocalypse, trust me they would if they could )
    Northeast - the United States (some weird ultra religious people, probably obsessed with the "old" united sates to the point that it inhibits progress)
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    Orange in Texas: Texarkana from A Canticle for Leibowitz? Please?
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    California is divided. This upsets me.

    My guess for the Washington-Oregon-N.California yellow group is "Cascadia" or some such.

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    Some correct, some not. Especially the guesses at NCR, c'mon guys, I already said I was gonna try to avoid completely copying Fallout Just to establish some background: the 'apocalypse' in question was indeed a Fallout-y WW3 that ended with the Americans & their enemies raining nukes on each other, but that was 500 years ago and humanity's done an okayish job of picking up the pieces of civilization by now. Some places even have electricity, actual industry and/or significant numbers of working fuel-powered vehicles, though they obviously aren't likely to share these wonders of pre-war civilization with others.

    Purple (Utah)
    The Church of Latter-Day Saints directly rules Utah as an absolute theocracy led by the Morrison family of 'Prophets', descended from the last pre-apocalypse President of the LDS Church, and aided by counselors of the First Presidency. As of the game start, they'll be suffering from a growing schism between modernist and fundamentalist wings, led respectively by reigning Prophet Gordon VII Morrison & his uncle Joseph; the modernists aren't remotely open to liberal democracy or anything that looks like it, in fact quite the opposite since they want to reduce the First Presidency to a powerless advisory body & invest all temporal authority in the Prophets' hands, but they do want to maintain the prohibition on polygamy + pursue a peaceful approach to spreading the Mormon faith while the fundamentalist faction wants the exact opposite of these things (on top of reducing the Prophet to a toothless figurehead & hoarding all temporal power for themselves).

    Brown (NorCal, Pacific NW & S. BC)
    The northern half of the former Californian Empire, which still insists on being called THE legitimate Californian Empire but is usually just referred to as 'North California'. Said empire was founded by 'High Commissioner' George Faust, descendant of the last pre-apocalypse LAPD commissioner whose heirs wound up directing the LAPD survivors into establishing a safe but authoritarian government in the ruins of Los Angeles, in the 2240s-70s (over 200 years ago) - culminating in him exterminating the hippies of SF after they refused to bow to 'The Man' that he represents + his son subduing the EPA in Oregon/BC. In 2420, this empire imploded into a civil war between Emperor Leonard II's sons; the weak-willed elder Thomas who was a pawn of the high nobility, and a tougher younger son named Henry who was popular with the more martial lesser nobility & chivalry of the realm. The Northern Cali Empire was founded by Henry after he failed to take over all of California & has its capital at San Fran, and once they ruled the land as far as Colorado but have steadily been pushed back by the Grangelanders (beige).

    Teal (SoCal, AZ, Baja Cali & part of NM)
    This would be the Southern Californian Empire, arguably its 'legitimate' half. It's ruled by Thomas Faust's granddaughter Alexandra who, like her dad and grandpa, is a powerless figurehead for the Great Houses centered around the capital of Los Angeles. While the nobles are playing their intrigue-ridden games, the neglected frontier of the empire has been giving way before the Texans, Mexicans, Mormons (Deseret was formerly a protectorate of this half of the empire before breaking free in 2450) and now the Grangelanders.

    Orange (Texas + Oklahoma + parts of neighboring states + NE Mexico)
    Definitely not a republic, not yet anyway. It's the Holy Kingdom of Texas, ruled by descendants of the Bush family - the last pre-apocalypse POTUS was a Bush, and those with his blood in their veins now claim to be his rightful successor & thus the true lord of all America. They're a fiercely martial and religious state who've put their oil wealth behind both a powerful army (with the most mechanized & motorized formations in America to date) and spreading their fanatical branch of Evangelical Christianity in the Wahhabi fashion (complete with inciting foreign believers to work against their governments & eventually install pro-Texan governments in their home countries), and boast elite units in the form of the Texas Rangers (light infantry) and the 'Greyhound Division' (the first and best armored unit on the continent). They aren't the greatest fans of democracy - to them, two past Bush Presidents smote down 'the eastern devil Saddam' twice over and they both still lost power anyway, obvious evidence that the masses should not choose their leaders - but they are more populistic than the Confederacy to the east, and have allowed the creation of legislative assemblies with limited powers; now a power struggle is brewing between said assemblies (divided between constitutional monarchists & outright republicans) and the Holy Monarchs who want to hold on to their power. Though originally brought to heel by the Columbian Confederacy, the Bushes never liked being equals to the other Southern royal houses and broke away in a civil war 160 years ago.

    Blue (NY, PA, New England)
    Meet the Free States of America, a republican federation that represents the closest thing to a revival of the American Dream in the former USA. They've done their best to clone the pre-war institutions of the USA: power is divided between the President (executive), the Congress of Free States which is further split into a Senate & House of Representatives (legislative), and a Supreme Court (judicial), the Constitution is still upheld and a strong civic-nationalist spirit has been nurtured among its people. Yet it's not without its problems - the Mid-Atlantic core of the Free States (coastal NY & eastern Penn) are dominated by plutocratic merchant houses that have no problem with buying votes and employing powerful political machines to retain power, New England (formerly divided into many feuding petty-kingdoms) was only brought into the federation through the Concord of Charlestown that made the region's most powerful petty kings into essentially autonomous hereditary Governors (nominally equal to other state governors, but in fact with much more power up to & including private armies in the form of their states' National Guards) and those living in the recently-conquered western & southern territories of the Federation still chafe under martial law with no constitutional protections. That said, at least the Manhattan-based plutocracy (currently represented by sitting President Martin Godin) is being challenged by an alliance of lesser merchant houses, urban poor and Pennsylvanian religious populists calling themselves the 'Populares', led by legendary-war-hero-of-humble-origins and ex-Marshal of the Free States Douglas Grant; while Grant insists that his platform is strictly about cleaning up corruption and giving the common man a government that actually represents them, his rivals claim he's only running to seize power, will violate the rights of the Yankee pseudo-nobility to further strengthen his own position, and is ultimately aiming to become like the hated Confederacy's hated High King.

    Grey (Ex-Confederate core)
    This is the Columbian Confederacy that was first founded in 2270, a confederal monarchy made up of lesser hereditary kingdoms within the borders of the modern Southern states & led by a High King or Queen elected by said lesser monarchs & the higher aristocracy of the realm. The Southern gentry are further divided into the 'Houses of the Round Table', older and more powerful dynasties who determine foreign policy & elect the High Monarchs (indeed, said HM is considered only a primus inter pares among the Round Table) and the 'Houses of the Southern Congress', lesser nobles and knights who only have the right to sit in the larger Congress in Charleston and do not elect High Kings and Queens - though they can still direct domestic policy to an extent. Though they were once the premier power on the Eastern Seaboard, ruling everything from the Mohawk River in the north to the Everglades in the south at the apogee of their might in 2385, they have since greatly declined owing to internal strife (thanks be to both the old color-blind system of slavery + the notoriously corrupt & cutthroat nobility...) and defeats abroad: Texas was lost in 2405, the resurgent Free States steadily pushed their border back south with the help of the Yankees of New England from the signing of the Charlestown Concord in 2407 onward, Mississippi and most of Alabama were lost to a slave rebellion 2460-68, and it took a destructive civil war fought between 2472 and 2482 to finally abolish slavery (to be replaced with sharecropping everywhere outside of South Carolina, where it was replaced with serfdom instead), greatly sapping the Confederacy's remaining strength. The Confederacy is still an extremely backward and decentralized empire, with the state-kingdoms wielding their own armies + tariffs + legal systems that make domestic governance a nightmare, with some kingdoms being relatively industrialized & liberal (Virginia and North Carolina in particular) and others still chiefly rural and conservative (South Carolina being the most extreme example, having kept its fullblown caste system from the days before the Confederacy). King Albert III Littlepage of North Carolina bribed, bullied and murdered his way into the Gray Throne in 2552 and, though personally a deeply unpleasant man, he does have the foresight, the cunning and the ruthlessness to turn the Confederacy's fortunes around - if his rivals in the Round Table and the Congress would let him.

    Dark red (MS + AL)
    These lands are held by the 'Tuskegee Collective', an agrarian socialist republic born of a slave rebellion in Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana against the Confederacy in the 2460s. The Collective's founders seized the great plantations and rebuilding industry of Alabama and Mississippi (after killing as many of their former owners & said owners' supporters as possible, of course) and divided them up among their people - '20 acres, a rifle and a mule for all' was the revolt's slogan in its later stages, after all. Since then, the Collective's 'Popular Militias' have been jealously safeguarding their borders against their former masters to the east and the Texans to the west, while farmers' and workers' councils deliberate in the occupied mansions of the now-exiled Deep Southern nobility on how to best carry out the revolution. However, the Collective's very existence is an obvious ideological threat to their neighbors, and in recent wars the Confederates have begun to make inroads into Alabama while all of Louisiana was lost to the Texans in 2499-2510, and the murderous 'White Terror' visited upon former Collective citizens in both have shown them what they can expect should they fall. Further complicating matters, the Collective's leadership is increasingly divided between a moderate faction led by Allen Attucks which favors maintaining the domestic status quo of numerous family-sized private farms & businesses + preserving racial harmony between blacks and whites (whose ancestors jointly fought to free the Collective, after all) as well as making peace with their neighbors, and a more extreme faction led by Elijah Greenfield (influenced by the Illinois Commune, see below) that intends on abolishing the democratic communal assemblies in favor of concentrating power into the hands of a central committee, collectivizing farms and violently exporting the revolution.

    Red (IL + parts of Indiana)
    Meet the Commune of Illinois, the continent's first and staunchest adherents to the Theory of Marxism-Lennonism: a mishmash of Buddhism, Communism & pop culture that believes there are no gods, but humans can attain enlightenment & build a paradise of harmonious prosperity on the bones of the Old World if they work together to overthrow the kings and bourgeoisie who would subjugate their fellow man out of selfishness, as commanded by the Marx brothers who discovered the truth and were put to death for it by the pre-apocalypse authorities + John Lennon who transcribed their texts and boiled it down to a few catchy songs (chief among them 'Imagine', clearly a description of what the Enlightened Earth should look like) for future generations. They firmly believe that the reconstruction & expansion of heavy industry is the only way to attain paradise, that working in a factory is the key to enlightenment, that the previous two require the absolute guidance of the Central People's Committee in Chicago (whose members coincidentally automatically ascend to the status of 'Enlightened Ones' upon their death and have at times been consulted for advice by their successors through channelers) to succeed, and thus denounce the agrarian Tuskegee Collective to the south as heterodox deviants from the glory of Marxism-Lennonism.

    Beige (Great Plains, Rockies)
    The Empire of the Plains and Mountains (whose denizens are known as 'Grangelanders' or simply 'Grangers'), the Mongol horde crisscrossed with cowboys: a fast-growing empire founded by Wyomingite warlord Russell Holliday 60 years ago, who beat or talked most of the myriad granger-lords and Indian tribes of the Great Plains into falling in line and exterminated those who would not kneel. They are reliant on an entirely mounted/motorized army + a crude air force to overwhelm its opponents with speed & shock in a post-apocalyptic attempt at reinventing the blitzkrieg. The Hollidays are known for being quite open to new ideas & accepting those who submit immediately into their domain with grace, to the point of granting them total cultural and considerable local autonomy so long as they pay their respects and taxes whenever Granger officials swing by...and savagely raping, murdering & pillaging their way through the lands of those who don't, which serves as their primary carrot/stick combination in diplomacy. Emperor Dwight Holliday is now quite determined to carry out his forefather's dream and unite all of America under Denver's heel, by word or by sword.

    Light green (Missouri)
    The Kingdom of Missouri is an autonomous vassal state of the Columbian Confederacy. Having regained their independence in the same war as the Texans and Arkansans, the Missourians made a killing off of tariffs on trade up & down the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers for many years. However, recently Queen Ada Schwengel was forced to submit to the Confederates once more after High King Albert defeated her army and sacked St. Louis in 2560, though due to limits on his own strength he did have to at least nominally recognize Missouri's continued independence. What Schwengel thought was a victory in the short term has turned into a disaster however, as Granger forces from the west have been storming into western Missouri and the kingdom's weakened forces cannot hope to defeat them alone: she will require at least the aid of the Confederacy, or some other outside ally, if she and her people wish to escape an ignominious fate at the hands of the Grangelanders - and there's no way that help will come without even more strings attached.

    Pale pink (Arkansas)
    The Kingdom of Arkansas, like the Kingdom of Missouri, was a reluctant member of the Confederacy - much like their neighbors the Bushes, the region's ruling Blythe family claimed descent from a pre-apocalyptic presidential family (in their case, the Clintons, though the connection is much more dubious than in the Bushes' case), and so they resented having to answer to younger and less prestigious royal families to the east - and broke free along with the Missourians and Texans 160 years ago. Unfortunately, the Blythes' belief that isolationism would protect them proved very, very false when their one-time Texan allies wound up invading their kingdom in 2467. Despite the Arkansans' best efforts, by 2470 their King Orville II had been killed in single combat with Texan Holy King George IV (who lopped his head off with a chainsaw while riding a motorcycle, no less) and Texan forces had sacked Little Rock, forcing what remained of House Blythe to seek shelter with their former Confederate overlords and abandon their kingdom to over 80 years of occupation by the Texans. In 2559 Confederate forces under Albert III's personal command finally drove the Texans from most of Arkansas and restored Orville's descendant Roger to the throne; however, it is very clear that the restored Kingdom of Arkansas is little more than a puppet of the Confederacy, and while plans to fully annex it are in the works, elements among Arkansan society are plotting to rebel and reassert their independence before that can happen...and ironically, some of them are now looking back to the Texans for help in doing so.

    Pink (Ohio, part of Indiana)
    The Kingdom of Ohio's very name is misleading - it is a kingdom without a king, having driven its last King and all of House Audubon out some 200 years ago in a popular uprising only for his natural successor, the humble Lord Steward Clive McCook, to decline the crown and instead take up the mantle of Regent, which his heirs wore from that time onward; and it doesn't control all of Ohio but does control parts of Indiana, having tragically lost the Toledo Strip to raiders from Michigan in 2549 and eastern Ohio to the Free States Army twelve years before that. Though the McCooks have reigned as just and much-beloved Regents in times of peace (indeed, their benevolent rule was one of the reasons that the Indianan lords elected them to rule over the Hoosier State in 2420 after the extermination of their ruling family by the Communists), in war they have a far worse record (hence the above losses) - until now: Roderick McCook, the eldest son and heir to Regent Isaac II, has emerged as a fierce warrior and especially hotheaded leader with very little time for his ancestors' cautious, consensus-based style of leadership & who has no problems with personally dirtying his hands in battle. A rupture is growing between father and son as Roderick disapproves of his father's attempts to buy peace with the Great Lakesmen and to forge alliances with their neighbors, instead preferring to not give the Lakesmen another inch of Ohioan soil nor another Ohioan dollar, and may even be plotting to replace his old man - not as Regent, but as the first King of Ohio from House McCook.

    Cyan (Great Lakes)
    In the aftermath of the apocalypse, the Nordic Americans of the Midwest opted to start imitating their Viking ancestors and pillage their neighbors for survival rather than start sowing fields or building homemade generators themselves. Navigating the rivers of America and Canada, they were able to strike as far south as New Orleans (sacked twice by Lakesmen in 2345 and 2447) and as far north as Quebec City (which was occupied by the legendary Lakesman warlord Eric 'of the Evil Eye' Wahlgren 2376-80). Most recently and infamously, between 2461 and 2468 the Lake-Lord Lance Gyllenhaal sailed down the Mississippi and out into the Gulf of Mexico, stormed several Texan oil rigs, burnt down Pensacola, raided the shores of Cuba and planted his flag over Guantanamo Bay before swerving northeast to raid Charleston and New York; and though he was repulsed by Confederate and Federal forces at both cities, he still survived to make it back home with enough loot & slaves to sustain his family for decades. Though he tragically died a decade later when he decided it would be a good idea to try the same thing and wound up being quartered by the Confederates in Atlanta for his trouble, his son Carl not only preserved the family legacy but even one-upped his old man by uniting the Lake clans into one kingdom for the first time between 2480 and 2495. As King of the Great Lakes, Carl's great-grandson Beck now aims to conquer all of the former United States with his army of seasoned raiders and warriors, counting on the rivers of the land to lend him strategic mobility and the ability to surprise his enemies - and should he fail, well, as long as he dies like a true warrior in the process (for a brave death is the only way to atone for failure among the Lakesmen) he'd be fine with that too.

    Brown (KY, WV)
    The Appalachian clans have not had a great time surviving in post-apocalyptic America, to say the least. Often scorned as inbred, slavishly traditional hicks with tempers as fragile as glass by their neighbors (especially the Confederate nobility who've derided them as 'cohees' fit only for hard labor and raided their lands for slaves for centuries), they've been largely left to rot alone in their mountains even as said neighbors grew more prosperous and rebuilt themselves, and were engaged only when outsiders wanted something from them - namely, their quality weapons and coal from their mines. Granted, the Appalachians haven't made it much easier on themselves - their myriad clans battled each other over causes from the serious (control of coal mines, let's say) to the trivial (at one point, two clans went to war over the supposed killing of one clan's hound by the other), and in the past they have proven all too eager to accept foreign 'help' against their rivals, help which never came without strings attached and inevitably bit them in the behind down the road. As of 2520, the four remaining great clans of these mountains - Crockett (though they had technically mostly moved to Kentucky), Gibson, McCown and MacLaine - banded together through the Pact of Lexington, a blood oath that they would cease trying to kill each other and instead answer any attack on one as though it were an attack on all in a desperate attempt at preserving their independence from foreign encroachment on all sides.

    Olive (Everglades)
    They're the Sons of Disney, swamp tribals who have reinterpreted Disney creations such as Mickey Mouse (or to them, the 'Mouse King' who is the voice of the All-Father Disney) as gods and have also branched out to cover other cartoon figures (ex. Warner Bros' Wile E. Coyote --> the 'Dread Coyote' who will pursue not only his archenemy the 'Great Runner', but also anyone who annoys him, to the ends of the earth and cannot be killed) - and are perfectly willing to die & to kill for their deities. They were subjugated time and time again by the Confederates, who tried to forcibly convert them to the Southern Baptist Convention and whose settlers drove them again & again from their lands, even reservations granted to them by the express order of the Confederal Congress; yet every time, whether it took a year or a century, the tribe's chiefs would rally their people and drive the Confederates out by the barrel of the rifle. Starting in 2564, Paramount Chief Fights-With-Ducks leads his people on their umpteenth rebellion against Charleston's authority, while the Confederates under High King Albert have at last given up on assimilating them: a thousands-strong Confederate expeditionary force, backed up by thousands more armed settlers & adventurers, is now on their way to enact a more...permanent solution to the 'Trouble in the Everglades' and to make sure nobody will be contesting their newest settlements anytime soon.

    Dark green (Alaska)
    The only faction of truly non-American origin in former US territory, the Tsardom of Alaska was founded by descendants of those few Russian soldiers who occupied this state in WWIII and managed to survive when the bombs fell. In the wake of the nuclear apocalypse, their most senior surviving commander - a certain Colonel Ivan Semyonov, who was infamous for having delusions of grandeur before the war - proclaimed himself Tsar in the ruins of Anchorage; thanks to his astonishing competence in the years after the Third World War, his men humored him and his descendants, who were eventually able to command their subjects' absolute loyalty by promoting a cult of personality with some basis in their actual achievements (and ruthlessly punishing anyone who stepped out of line). Even today, Tsar Igor III Semyonov has not deviated from his ancestor's mission: to take over America before crossing the Bering Strait to impose their rule on their distant homeland. Before they can even begin contemplating the conquest of the Americas though, much less going home as conquerors, they must overcome their chief rivals: the Eskimo Confederacy to the east, and the Great Plains Sich to the south.

    Some religions
    Exceptionalism: A form of bastardized Christianity, especially popular in the Mid-Atlantic Free States. This faith holds that America was founded as a new Jerusalem; that the Founding Fathers were divinely ordained to shape the new nation and ascended to become angels after their death; that the Presidency is a holy office and that Presidents are not only temporal but also spiritual leaders of the federation (unless he's a non-Exceptionalist, in which case Exceptionalist believers essentially declare the leadership of their religion 'sede vacante' until an Exceptionalist once more sits atop the Presidential Chair in Philadelphia), anointed by God but also raised high by their people in democratic elections; that the Constitution is worthy of reverence, perhaps not on the scale of the Bible itself but as part of 'holy tradition'; and that they have every right to only reunite America under their banner, but also bring the light of freedom to the rest of the world in due time. Many Presidents, in keeping with Exceptionalist tradition, have had an eye on restoring Washington DC and moving the capital of the FSA there, which Exceptionalist doctrine states is one of the necessary steps to bring about the Second Coming; thanks to Marshal Douglas Grant, who captured the ruined city in a daring offensive in 2550, there is now a chance of all that finally happening (well...maaaaybe not the 'Feds move back to DC = Second Coming inevitable' part).

    This religion's cradle is Pennsylvania, where it is taken so seriously that even despite the First Amendment some county authorities will look the other way when a lynch mob breaks down the door of a critic of any President, but less so on the New York coast where the cosmopolitan plutocrats are more welcoming of foreign influences, and has made few inroads against the Catholics and traditional Protestants of New England. The 'Black Bureau', a holy order dedicated to defending the President of the Free States (regardless of his/her actual religion) and smiting their enemies, was founded in Philadelphia in 2355 by seventeen fanatical Exceptionalist soldiers and bureaucrats in the wake of yet another Free Stater defeat at the hands of the Confederacy; today, the 'Men in Black' (as the order's soldiers are known) are rightly dreaded by all who see their black helicopters or vans approaching, friend or foe, for they have also taken to investigating the government's inner workings for corruption as well.

    Revelationism: Another bastardized form of Christianity, this time emerging from Pentecostalism, Hyper-Calvinism and reactionary fundamentalism in general after undergoing severe post-apocalypse distortions. Revelationists believe that the Apocalypse written about in the Book of Revelations has already come to pass in WW3, and that they are now God's soldiers in the Tribulation, carrying the holy duty of preparing the Earth for the arrival of His Son by exterminating all who offend Him. As one may predict from that doctrinal development, they tend to be violently xenophobic and fanatical, demanding that any unbeliever they find either convert or burn first in their worldly flame before they start burning in Hellfire. It is not unheard of Revelationist missionaries to murder unbelievers who refuse to listen to them on the spot. They denounce all other Christian faiths as heresies whose adherents should be given precisely one chance to turn to their light or be annihilated as servants of Satan, and non-Christians as unworthy of even a chance at redemption - clearly, if God wanted them to be saved then He'd have made them right Revelationists before they ran into each other, right? Revelationists are also (in)famous for their practice of snake-handling and imbibing small quantities of poison from childhood to both express the power of their faith and build up a natural immunity to poison, while dismissing any casualties as a sign that the boy or girl who died clearly did not have God's favor: to nobody's surprise, this practice has only further entrenched their reputation as psychotic lunatics in the eyes of their neighbors.

    The Revelationists are common in the Appalachian Mountains, even in the Columbian Confederacy where the authorities have been working hard to suppress their faith in favor of the Southern Baptist Convention (which, despite being authoritarian in structure & approving of first slavery and now serfdom, generally frowns on endangering children with snakes and poisons + murdering strangers for not listening to you). Small, secretive Revelationist communities also exist as far north as Michigan and as far south as Texas, and the Grangers are also looking at this warlike religion with increasing interest. In the free Appalachian territories, though the Revelationists have no proper holy order like the Exceptionalist Black Bureau or the SBC's Brotherhood of the Holy Grail, their elite warriors are known to favor flamethrowers and blowtorches as weapons with which they can burn sin out of the world.

    Marxism-Lennonism: The primary belief among the workers of the Illinois Commune, Marxism-Lennonism is a syncretic blend of Buddhism, Communism, spiritualism & pop culture. According to Marxist-Lennonists, there are no gods, but humans trapped themselves in a vicious cycle of oppression known as the 'Eternal False Revolution' where kings and the bourgeoisie will constantly battle each other for the right to oppress the unenlightened proles, due to their own selfishness and pride. However, the Marx brothers discovered a way to break this wheel, attain enlightenment and build a paradise on earth: they had to awaken the consciousness of the oft-dominated proletariat by getting them to set aside all interpersonal struggles so they can focus on the class struggle, after which they must cast the kings and bourgeoisie of old down and build a new, industrial paradise of harmonious equality and prosperity where nobody starves or sleeps without a roof over their head atop the bones of the oppressors. Though the brothers were put to death by the pre-apocalypse authorities, their friend John Lennon transcribed their texts and boiled it down to a few catchy songs (chief among them 'Imagine', clearly a description of what the Enlightened Earth should look like) for the convenience of future generations, and Marxist-Lennonists feel it is possible to commune with the spirits of these deceased great men through channelers; only once the Eternal Revolution has ended and a paradise of enlightened workers reigns over the Earth can their spirits finally rest.

    Marxist-Lennonists are obviously mostly found in the Commune of Illinois, as those who would spread the Word of the Marx Brothers elsewhere are often in danger of being executed by local authority figures if they get caught. Within the Commune's borders, more fanatical adherents of this ideology have founded the 'Red Guard' to supplement the Communal armed forces: accepting soldiers from all walks of life under the belief that all who unconditionally accept, meditate on and fight for the Word of the Marx Brothers will have already done their duty to earn a place in paradise, they make up for their relative technological inferiority with sheer numbers (the Red Guards are the most numerous holy order on the continent) and raw zeal.

    Tell me what you think so far, guys. I'll write some more tomorrow, don't wanna break the character limit here.
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    I think you have some of the colors mismatched.

    So San Francisco's liberal cultural legacy is completely ... exterminated?

    Also, I'm imagining marijuana plantations almost on the scale of pre-Civil War cotton farming.
    Especially if you have a NV-style "tribe/gangs" and a pyramid structure for society.
    So if the plant survived, you can bet its being grown in mass as a cash crop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastard Feudalism View Post
    I think you have some of the colors mismatched.
    Ah yeah, sorry. I'm tired atm, but I'll fix it up tomorrow.
    So San Francisco's liberal cultural legacy is completely ... exterminated?
    Well, that certainly seems to be the case, and the Californian Empires think so. Whether they're right or not, well...
    Also, I'm imagining marijuana plantations almost on the scale of pre-Civil War cotton farming.
    Also a possibility in more tolerant nations, like the Granger empire.

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    So the Californian states are fascist/feudalists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastard Feudalism View Post
    So the Californian states are fascist/feudalists?
    I'd say more the latter than the former. I had the WRE & ERE in mind when writing them, as well as the Jin and Song dynasties (what with the Grangers being cowboy Mongols and all) - split halves of a dying empire with one half having a slightly better chance at not being wiped out than the other, and one of which is noticeably more martial & less 'refined' than the other one.

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    Huh. Interesting.
    I'm from California (like you didn't already know ), so I can help you with these factions a lot (if you need it).
    Any questions about the west coast and all that.
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    I'm digging it Barry, really am.


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    Barry, this doesn't happen to be inspired at all by that CKII Post-Apocalypse America mod, does it?

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    Nice work! Awesome so far!
    "We all know whatmy brother would do. Robert would gallop up to the gates of Winterfell alone, break them with his warhammer, and ride through the rubble to slay Roose Bolton with his left hand and the Bastard with his right. I am not Robert. But we will march, and we will free Winterfell … or die in the attempt."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorBatman999 View Post
    Barry, this doesn't happen to be inspired at all by that CKII Post-Apocalypse America mod, does it?
    Yes indeedy - the base concept & some parts are definitely inspired by that mod, especially the Great Lakes Viking thing. Couldn't pass up on something that cool

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    Now if only the Great-Lake Vikings were neo-pagans.. Though my favorite's gotta be the Disney cultists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kip View Post
    I can accept an Ohio divided, but Toledo under Michigan? This I cannot abide
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