Yes.
P1000 is correct.
Designed by Krupp, but cancelled in 1943 by the (quote) "dangerously wise" Speer.
The main armament was to have been a modified naval gun turret. Supposedly, one turret for the Ratte was in fact built, but after the project was cancelled it was moved to Norway as part of a coastal battery, and can still be seen on Google Earth.
http://jalopnik.com/5864615/the-secr...coastal-cannon
I don't know though. The Ratte was designed to have 2 x 28cm guns, while this one in Norway only has the one.
Even more insane would have been the p1500. Slightly lower in height but 42m long and a main armament of 1x 80cm seige gun.
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A lot of the German special weapons and "Wunderwaffen" were insane.
I think it's my turn:
That article is as wrong as you can get.
*the turret with single gun in the pictures is a so-called 40.6cm 'Adolf' gun and not a 28cm gun. The Adolf guns were designed for the German H class battleships which were never built. Instead they were used for coastal defense.
*The turret with two 28cm guns of the Ratte was the same type of turret used on the Scharnhorst class battlecruisers. Only difference was that the center gun was removed. Gneisenau's B and C turrets were shipped to Norway to serve as coastal defence guns in 1943. They were used on Ørland.
*Not one of these guns is anywhere near Skagerrak.
*The Ratte would have weighted 1,000 tons and not 1,500 tons.
This is a better article on the P-1000 Ratte: http://www.panzerworld.net/p1000-ratte
One of the most popular myths is that a turret for the P 1000 was actually completed, and installed in a costal fortification in Norway when the P 1000 was dropped. While the Germans did construct three fortifications armed with (or intended to be armed with) 28 cm S.K.C/28 turrets, two in Norway (Batterie Fjell and Batterie Ørland) and one in Denmark (Batterie Tirpitz), these were in fact the guns of Gneisenau, which were used after Gneisenau was destroyed (some of Gneisenau's 150 mm guns were re-used in the Danish Stevnsfort after the war). (Asmussen, A)
Last edited by Jagdpanzer; September 20, 2012 at 04:15 AM.
Thanks Red Knight. I didn't even read the whole thing properly, just as far as where they wrongly described the P1000 as 1500 tons. I thought the Google Earth link was neat anyway
I wouldn't have known about the Adolf gun though without knowing where to look it up, thanks for that.
I knew about the Gneisenau's turrets becoming coastal batteries. Another piece I read somewhere about the Rat claimed that it would have used the actual turrets from the Gneisenau...
Your turn Greek Firethrower.
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A huge waste of resources anyway.
Speer however, was a clever clever man.
Russian river monitor 'Shtorm'. Or 'Shkval'. Which might be the same name. (Google translator...)
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Correct, your turn.
I like monitors ... small craft armed to the teeth
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Certainly is. Your goFrench Char 2C super-heavy tank?
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It's Odd-Ball Tank Week on "Identify..."
Soviet T-35
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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Oh there is odder than that
"A quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself ... always a laborious business." A. A. Milne
"A quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself ... always a laborious business." A. A. Milne