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    it's some form of rocket launcher/mortar right?, but i got no idea of what type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Vengur View Post
    it's some form of rocket launcher/mortar right?, but i got no idea of what type.
    It's a form of rocket launcher, yes.

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    It doesn't look like a RP-3 launcher, the fins would get stuck.

    Rocket mortar perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Vengur View Post
    It doesn't look like a RP-3 launcher, the fins would get stuck.

    Rocket mortar perhaps?
    Nope.



    *This Bren gun carrier variant had no engine, it was usually towed by a tank.
    *It was highly explosive.
    *It had a single-shot 2-inch rocket launcher
    *The hoses near it were a vital part of this device.
    *Only used by the UK's 79th armoured division in very few battles.
    *The one in the picture is the only known survivor of this variant.
    Last edited by Jagdpanzer; April 16, 2012 at 07:15 AM.

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    It could be a Conger Minesweeper.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greek Firethrower View Post
    It could be a Conger Minesweeper.
    Uh-oh, somebody outknowledged Darkhorse on a British object.

    Conger Carrier is correct, the conger carrier was an engineless carrier that was towed by a Sherman or Cromwell tank (slave carrier). It carried a mine-clearing line charge. It consisted of a 302 meter hose, a 2-inch rocket, a tank with 1.13ton of nitro-glycerine and a pump. The rocket would tow the empty hose across the minefield. Then the pump would be used to fill the hose with nitro-glycerine. The tank would tow the slave carrier away and *BAM*!

    The Conger is the grandfather of the M58 MICLIC and the Python Minefield Breaching System.

    Operating the Conger Carrier was extremely dangerous. They were only used in the battle of Calais and the battle of Overloon. On 20 october 1944 an accident occured:

    Sad Memories: Holland 1944 by George Herbert.

    served in ‘A’ Troop 85 Battery, 11th (Essex) Med Regt, Royal Artillery, during World War Two.
    On the 20 October 1944 we were involved in the battle to clear the River Scheldt of the enemy in order that the Allies could get shipping down to the port of Antwerp.
    Breskens

    We had orders to move to new positions ready in preparation for the battle of Breskens and - because of the weather conditions and very bad flooding - we had to send an advance party forward with the reconnaissance party to lay a platform of railway sleepers on which to stand the guns so that the wheels didn’t get bogged down in the mud.
    We arrived at a farm that had been selected as our position. There were already some tanks and an assortment of military vehicles on the site. The tanks were 284 Armoured Assault Squadron, Royal Engineers, who were refuelling their ‘Congas’ (a modified Bren gun carrier with the engine removed and a storage tank to hold Liquid Nitro Glycerine in its place) - these were used in a system for clearing mines. The LNG would be pumped into a pipe or a hose and detonated to explode any mines either side of it.
    Devastation

    At approximately 13:00 hours there was a massive explosion, which was devastating. We all instinctively hit the deck and lay there until the debris had stopped falling. When I looked up the tanks were badly damaged and burning, and other vehicles were also on fire and exploding - the carnage was terrible.
    Returning years later

    Exactly 50 years later in 1994, Martin Reagan, who was a Sgt Tank Commander in 284 Squadron at the time of the incident, went back to Holland to retrace the journey to the farm at a place called Ijzendijke. He introduced himself and was made very welcome along with his three sons who made the trip with him.
    As a result of his visit, the local people said there should be a memorial set up in honour of the men that died there on that fateful day. There were a total of 41 killed, 16 missing and many wounded.
    Raising funds

    The Dutch people set up a committee to raise funds locally, and Martin did the same when he returned home to England. After considerable hard work and countless fund-raising letters, a large sum of money was made available with contributions coming from as far as Canada as well as the UK and Holland. The memorial was built and finally unveiled at a ceremony attended by a large number of veterans, relatives of those killed and Dutch people in October 1997.
    Court of Enquiry

    There was a Court of Enquiry held at the farm on the day following the disastrous event, and both Martin and myself have tried to obtain a copy to see what the official findings were as to the cause of the explosion. Martin explored various avenues within the Royal Engineers and even employed the assistance of a researcher to visit the Public Record Office at Kew but to no avail.
    I tried the Royal Artillery Museum, the Imperial War Museum and, as a last resort, I wrote to Professor Richard Holmes at the Security Studies Institute to ask if he could give advice as to where else we could search. In his reply he stated that if there is a copy of the findings of the Court of Enquiry it would almost certainly be at the PRO at Kew, but as we discovered previously it is not.
    Congas trial

    Martin knows that there had been trials in using the ‘Congas’ about a month before the explosion at Ijzendijke, and the conclusion was that the practice was extremely dangerous and therefore should not be used. This information was never passed on to 284 Assault Sqd, nor was information on the correct handling procedure for such a volatile substance as Liquid Nitro Glycerine, which should never have been transported in ‘Jerry’ cans.
    The casualty list at Ijzendijke on the 20th October 1944 was:
    Killed: 284 Armoured Assault Sqdn - 27; Royal Canadian Army service Corps - 10; ‘A’ Troop 85 Bty, 11th Essex Med Reg - 3; REME - 1.
    Missing: 284 Armoured Assault Sqdn - 9; Royal Canadian Service Corps - 7.
    Also a large number of men wounded.
    The farmhouse at Ijzendijke was completely demolished along with the barn. The orchard was stripped of all its fruits and trees destroyed.
    Two daughters of the family De Doddelaere, who owned the farm, were badly wounded, but thankfully no civilians were killed.
    Images from the explosion are etched on my mind forever.
    G Herbert, November 2004
    Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...a1985367.shtml

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    Picture of a Churchill towing a conger device.

    Picture of a Conger carrier.

    Picture of the result of the Conger refueling incident in Ijzendyke.

    Picture of an exploding Conger line-charge.


    The vehicle in the picture is in the National War and Resistance Museum in Overloon, The Netherlands. The carrier behind the Conger is a Windsor Carrier btw.
    Last edited by Jagdpanzer; April 16, 2012 at 04:27 PM.

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    Default Re: Identify that Tank/Ship/Plane/Artillery etc

    I blame Skyrim

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    Sorry, Darkhorse
    Next picture, shoudn't be too difficult:


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    Like I said, Skyrim

    That's a weird thing you've posted here. Is it one of the German experimental jet/rocket aircraft?

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    Yes of course, the most of their experimental weapons look weird


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    Silbervogel?

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    Unfortunately nope, it has other wings.


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    Default Re: Identify that Tank/Ship/Plane/Artillery etc

    I recognise it just trying to think of the producer, why are there so many

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greek Firethrower View Post
    Sorry, Darkhorse
    Next picture, shoudn't be too difficult:
    It's a Henschel Hs-294 anti-ship missile.Prototype of course never entered service.

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    Correct, your turn.
    +rep


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greek Firethrower View Post
    Correct, your turn.
    +rep
    Thank you!

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    HAL Tejas?
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    I might have inherited the stature and alcohol consumption of our ancestors, but Vengur got the ruthless, psychopathic bloodlust.
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    New rule: -one player each session will be designated the "Vengur Handler". It is like a dog handler in real life but you have to also pay attention to where his weapon is pointed at all times, make sure he does not have access to a parachute while in a chopper, keep him from running into buildings which the rest of the squad is currently suppressing, etc. An AGM/ACE compatible leash has been added to VAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Vengur View Post
    HAL Tejas?
    Correct! +rep and your turn!

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    Default Re: Identify that Tank/Ship/Plane/Artillery etc

    This one shouldn't be very hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
    I might have inherited the stature and alcohol consumption of our ancestors, but Vengur got the ruthless, psychopathic bloodlust.
    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    New rule: -one player each session will be designated the "Vengur Handler". It is like a dog handler in real life but you have to also pay attention to where his weapon is pointed at all times, make sure he does not have access to a parachute while in a chopper, keep him from running into buildings which the rest of the squad is currently suppressing, etc. An AGM/ACE compatible leash has been added to VAS.

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    A light tank prototype of the ÖAF.


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