Mod for Medieval East Asia: The Mongol Invasion Total War

[kirush2]

Let's have something to begin to do. I want to make troops of Korea and the Sultanate of Delhi.

[nhinhonhinho]

Mongol/Yuan roster!?

_Chinese conscript: garrison troop, iron helmet, no armor, Chinese sword (the Dao)
_Chinese infantry: basic troop, iron helmet, light lamellar armor, Chinese spear (the Quiang)
_Chinese heavy infantry: basic troop, iron helmet, lamellar armor, Dao and round shield
_Mongol infantry: basic troop, iron helmet (with fur and feather), padded armor, fur coat, carry spear, composite bow, small round wooden shield
_Mongol heavy infantry: basic troop, iron helmet, heavy lamellar armor, fur coat, mace and big wooden rectangular shield
_Dismounted Khan Guard: Elite troop, iron helmet with marks, heavy lamellar armor, small round iron shield, composite bow, scimitar
_Mongol archer: basic troop, fur hat, composite bow, scimitar, no armor

_Chinese medium cavalry: Cavalry with light lamellar armor and dao
_Mongol Horse Archer: Cavalry wear fur hat, fur coat, composite bow, scimitar (use Huns elite horse archer model)
_Steppe Cavalry: another version of Mongol horse archer (use Huns Archer)
_Mongol Heavy Horse Archer: Cavalry, backbone of Mongol hordes, lord of the steppe, massive number, composite bow, small round shield on the left hand, scimitar
_Mongol Lancer: Equip much like Heavy Horse Archer yet no bow, heavy lance, scimitar
_Mongol Cataphract: Super heavy cavalry, covered in armor, helmet, marks, armored horse, big lance and mace
_Khan Guard: Cataphract cavalry, carry bow, mace
_Dali Cavalry: Cataphract, lance, sword (different model than Mongol once)

_Mongol Thunder Bomber: light armor guys carry bombs

_Onager
_Western Trebuchet
_Mongol Rocket Launcher

That's enough for Mongol/Yuan Horde i think

[kirush2]

Here's a map of East Asia. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=3715
Test please and Express opinion on the location of the provinces. Where abated? Where is add?

[tianzong]

Looks good unit choices but wouldn't it be better to allow marian reforms so that you only get those chinese units when you conquer the xixia or some regions from it? Also they should get those siege engines when they conquer one of the three chinese empires (xixia, jin, song)

[Spike]

Here's a map of East Asia. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=3715
Test please and Express opinion on the location of the provinces. Where abated? Where is add?

1st, the scale is actually too small seriously, if it still can be enlarged, please try enlarge to 1021 pixels in height, so we can have proper province borders and map movements, remember Asia is much larger than Europe

[kirush2]

I can increase. But with such a number of regions of the map will look empty

[Spike]

I can increase. But with such a number of regions of the map will look empty

it's actually more realistic representation when most of the map will look empty, at your scale, the east indian coasts, sumatera and Java coasts, and east China coasts, and korea, will be CRAMPED (seriously, I have no qualms of having tibet, mongols, and other hinterlands look empty, but it's the spice trade coasts that will suffer if you put the scale too small

[kirush2]

Well. I'll try to remake

[nhinhonhinho]

Hm...can we add several settlement or event fort to made the map chowder

Looks good unit choices but wouldn't it be better to allow marian reforms so that you only get those chinese units when you conquer the xixia or some regions from it? Also they should get those siege engines when they conquer one of the three chinese empires (xixia, jin, song)

Well actually with the year 1279 the Yuan was formed and Southern Song are in tough situation. It's no strange for the Yuan to have a large number of Chinese troops and Dali cavalry

[Spike]

the question is, is they are considered local levies (AOR) units, or factional units?

[nhinhonhinho]

I think local units sound more exactly. It'll be weird if you can recruit Chinese when you are fighting in India

The Chinese is local once while the Mongolian is factional

[Spike]

meanwhile is there's some visual references like this?

note, this is 13th century hindu soldiers at Indonesia


well, it's not me who draw that, it's my other half... just forgive the over-toned muscles./..

[kirush2]

I do not know how it is historically accurate, but it looks good. I'm from Russia and I think that this warrior looks exactly as it should look.

[tianzong]

Hm...can we add several settlement or event fort to made the map chowder



Well actually with the year 1279 the Yuan was formed and Southern Song are in tough situation. It's no strange for the Yuan to have a large number of Chinese troops and Dali cavalry

You said 1279? I thought it would start in 1230. Sorry my mistake

[Spike]

I do not know how it is historically accurate, but it looks good. I'm from Russia and I think that this warrior looks exactly as it should look.

it's based at what we have in the museums

[Spike]

speaking of unit design.... here's the rough sketch of base unit for South East Asians (Indo-Malay-Champa, and with some hair changes, Siamese and Burmese)

[nhinhonhinho]

Hm...Let's decide the unit roster

Spike will create Malay-Indo, Burma i think!
Kirkush2 You made the Indian, Japanese and Korean ok!?
Me Champa, Khmer, Viet, Mongol, Chinese

Hm where's mister Pazu!?

[Pazu the Kitsune]

Here....nhinho remember that there were 2 main Siamese Kingdoms at 1279, the Sukhothai and the Lanna.....Sukhothai collapsed in 1438 and Ayutthaya replaced it shortly thereafter.

I will gladly make some unit roster drafts for the Khmer, Lanna and Sukhothai, but not Champa (my knowledge on them is virtually nothing )

Also check your visitor messages

[Spike]

Hm...Let's decide the unit roster

Spike will create Malay-Indo, Burma i think!
Kirkush2 You made the Indian, Japanese and Korean ok!?
Me Champa, Khmer, Viet, Mongol, Chinese

Hm where's mister Pazu!?

I don't know about the Burmese, I'll make Indian ones as I stated before

[kirush2]

I don't know about the Burmese, I'll make Indian ones as I stated before

So I have not yet to do Indian units?