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    It seems as though Mount and Blade multi-player is possibly one of the most challenging I've played in terms of how difficult it is to become decent enough to not die 10 times for every 1 kill. Seriously, I've installed c-RPG and on average I get around a 2:9 K/D, and there seems to be no way to improve in a noob/intermediate server - 90% of players in the popular servers are M&B veterans who know the ins and outs. How long did it take you guys to get any good at the game?

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    The way I learned to fight was spamming, and moving fast. IMO I would say that c-RPG is a bad way to learn the combat mechanics, just because the unbalanced distribution of power among the players. Being a good combatant means either being a good archer, blocker, or spammer. You can train all of these skills in either a native DM server(Or any other server with varied experienced fighters), or just in SP with the block settings set to manual.

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    stay away from C-RPG while your a noob play native team deathmatch or join a clan. watch out for people that have their sensitivity 100% up especialy when using 2 handers they can swing once u can block it then they can turn 90 degrees and get yet another instant swing off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain_in_a_vat View Post
    How long did it take you guys to get any good at the game?
    How long? 2 years of Warband and I'm still no good
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    Default Re: Impossible learning curve

    Spamming?

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    Spamming refers to never blocking and just attacking.

    It took me about 4 weeks of duelling 'til I felt I could hold my own against 95% of the people. The key is to duel until you can block somewhat well and attack back before the foe strikes back(sometimes referred to as clickblocking, but the idea is that you always start your attack immediately, otherwise you miss your chance to attack back). After that it gets easier.

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    Default Re: Impossible learning curve

    cRPG is really quite crap for balance, don't expect much there.


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    Comes with the level differences. Then again they also in my opinion make the game more fun and personal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CtrlAltDe1337 View Post
    cRPG is really quite crap for balance, don't expect much there.
    Yeah, no . I was running around in a shirt, scarf and a pitchfork while being chased by 5 guys in plate armour wielding halberds and battle-axes.

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    I know that joining a clan in MM helped me get a lot better. We're actually Melee specialists :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain_in_a_vat View Post
    Yeah, no . I was running around in a shirt, scarf and a pitchfork while being chased by 5 guys in plate armour wielding halberds and battle-axes.
    Well, 5 guys vs. 1 is unbalanced by default. But I can start winning 1v1 after I hit level 15 or so and get a decent twohander/Polearm. Bastard/katana, etc.

    At the moment I'm 33 and I use a katana and the black lamellar vest(light medium armour) and I can win multiple enemies simultaneously. Regardless of their gear and level. It's just a matter of footwork and blocking. The problem lies in having a disadvantage in level, gear and skill at the same time. Makes it very hard for beginners. Native is definately the better choice for a new player(even though I didn't do it).

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    I was going to post that (Reapy made the original AFAIK, btw), but I was too lazy I took the horse shortcut personally.


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    Yeah. I fail at multiplayer. I have no idea why I play it so much. Mount and Musket is quite fun and it is fairly easy to block.

    I usually pick some sort of heavy cavalry (Russia has the best cav imo) and do alright getting cheap hits on skirmishers, cannoneers, and infantry with their backs turned to me. Sometimes I'll even have a little fun in a cav fight. I have him chase me to the end of the map then I turn and just aim for the horses head and ride away just for the lol's sometimes. ...as long as they aren't lancers!

    In Native Mount and Blade I usually score even. I don't even spend my money 'till later in the match and then the match ends.

    I used to play cRPG I like the Rageball thing except when everyone decides to kill each other instead of playing the game.

    In general as a footman I cannot block for unless I have a shield and even then I have a hard time. When I try to block with a weapon it always goes in the opposite direction I want it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yeah. I fail at multiplayer. I have no idea why I play it so much. Mount and Musket is quite fun and it is fairly easy to block.

    I usually pick some sort of heavy cavalry (Russia has the best cav imo) and do alright getting cheap hits on skirmishers, cannoneers, and infantry with their backs turned to me. Sometimes I'll even have a little fun in a cav fight. I have him chase me to the end of the map then I turn and just aim for the horses head and ride away just for the lol's sometimes. ...as long as they aren't lancers!

    In Native Mount and Blade I usually score even. I don't even spend my money 'till later in the match and then the match ends.

    I used to play cRPG I like the Rageball thing except when everyone decides to kill each other instead of playing the game.

    In general as a footman I cannot block for unless I have a shield and even then I have a hard time. When I try to block with a weapon it always goes in the opposite direction I want it too.
    Was just wondering about M&M blocking, do you just block downwards when somebody is attacking you with a bayonet? There are still four block directions yet only two attacks, and when I block downwards they still seem to be able to hit me through it with their thrust. I do believe it's the easiest mod for M&B because of how easy it is to simply aim and fire at a mass of advancing infantry, however I still completely suck when it comes to melee. It's like everybody who plays Mount and Blade is a god damned veteran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain_in_a_vat View Post
    Was just wondering about M&M blocking, do you just block downwards when somebody is attacking you with a bayonet? There are still four block directions yet only two attacks, and when I block downwards they still seem to be able to hit me through it with their thrust. I do believe it's the easiest mod for M&B because of how easy it is to simply aim and fire at a mass of advancing infantry, however I still completely suck when it comes to melee. It's like everybody who plays Mount and Blade is a god damned veteran.
    I'm not really the one to ask about that. But I am pretty sure it is because they hit you from the side. They try to do a 360 and hit you in the back too.

    If you are in a nice open map just go cav and go for cheap kills. Steer clear from bayonets.

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    I mean you can only thrust and bash with the rifle- two attacks, yet you can block in four directions. Sometimes I find myself using the traditional means to block thrusts (downwards block) yet they stab me right through it?
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    If they are doing fancy spin moves it may go through your down block. Other then that, you can also chamber their attacks. I still need to learn that skill :p. But it's extremely useful in a melee. I would suggest joining a regiment/clan, it helps you get a lot better at MM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain_in_a_vat View Post
    Was just wondering about M&M blocking, do you just block downwards when somebody is attacking you with a bayonet? There are still four block directions yet only two attacks, and when I block downwards they still seem to be able to hit me through it with their thrust. I do believe it's the easiest mod for M&B because of how easy it is to simply aim and fire at a mass of advancing infantry, however I still completely suck when it comes to melee. It's like everybody who plays Mount and Blade is a god damned veteran.
    TBH in M&M you should really only block downward if their using a bayonet but dont get to comfortable as sometimes they will go for a overhead swing and end up killing you (i tend to go for overhead if they are just blocking downward thrusts ) lol

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