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Thread: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

  1. #741

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    @Demagogos nicator: Okay I'll do that, but I have two questions: 1. do you think I also should make allied missile and/or cavalry troops available to the Civitas Sine Suffragio government? 2. should the original italian troops still be available in the Civitas Societas government?
    @Alavaria yup I did that, it's much easier to figure out now =) Btw: if I send you the files, do you want to take a look at the traits if you know anything about traits in rome total war (I don't, and when I try to do things I cause a lot of ctd's =P ). If so, what you should do is: 1. give spies the right traits at the start of the campaign 2. apply player1's fixes 3. add the health/genetics/personality traits from RSII 4. Add a trait that hugely reduces the fertility (-20 for example) from generals when they are in enemy territory (or in the enemy zone of control and outside a settlement), and restore it when they are back in friendly territory with a delay of 3 turns (9 months) to simulate pregnancy. I also would like a small fertility bonus as compensation when generals are inside a settlement that is not under siege (again with a delay of 3 turns). 5. Replace the arse trait by more historical accurate homo and bi-sexuality trait. With a influence penalty (or in case of hellenic "active" homosexual generals a small bonus), depending on culture (for example a large penalty for the carthaginians, a medium penalty for the romans and no effects for the celts) and if the general prefers to be "active" or "passive" if you know what I mean =P (a passive general should get a greater penalty).
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  2. #742

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    During the Mid Republic, the allied infantry became nigh indistinguishable from the Roman one, not sure about the cavalry. However, increased demands for manpower made the socii unhappy and ultimately led to the Socii War and the following Lex Julia (essentially granting Roman Citizenship to all Italia bar Cisalpine Gaul).

    Therefore, I think it's reasonable that Civitas Sine Suffragio should be an upgrade for the Civitas Sine Sociorum and should replace the latter's infantry with Italic Legions (same stats as Roman ones, perhaps a little lower morale and/or stamina value). There probably should be some allied counterpart to the velites, as well. I'm not sure whether the cavalry retained its local flavour or became also more romanized, i.e. heavy shock cavalry. Either way, there should definitely be allied cavalry in CSS.

    While you are at it, you should correct the script to add 36 population to Pydna, otherwise you have to manually disband another unit there to recruit Elephants on huge units settings.

    And lastly, Roman Leadership system should be reworked somewhat to mitigate the negative morale effect of anything other than consul in hostile territory. Otherwise you are forced to keep all your legions together, losing a lot of flexibility (while historically, it was the other way around.) Perhaps FMs should lose their office after 2 turns outside a city, instead of one?
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  3. #743

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Iskandar View Post
    During the Mid Republic, the allied infantry became nigh indistinguishable from the Roman one, not sure about the cavalry. However, increased demands for manpower made the socii unhappy and ultimately led to the Socii War and the following Lex Julia (essentially granting Roman Citizenship to all Italia bar Cisalpine Gaul).

    Therefore, I think it's reasonable that Civitas Sine Suffragio should be an upgrade for the Civitas Sine Sociorum and should replace the latter's infantry with Italic Legions (same stats as Roman ones, perhaps a little lower morale and/or stamina value). There probably should be some allied counterpart to the velites, as well. I'm not sure whether the cavalry retained its local flavour or became also more romanized, i.e. heavy shock cavalry. Either way, there should definitely be allied cavalry in CSS.

    While you are at it, you should correct the script to add 36 population to Pydna, otherwise you have to manually disband another unit there to recruit Elephants on huge units settings.

    And lastly, Roman Leadership system should be reworked somewhat to mitigate the negative morale effect of anything other than consul in hostile territory. Otherwise you are forced to keep all your legions together, losing a lot of flexibility (while historically, it was the other way around.) Perhaps FMs should lose their office after 2 turns outside a city, instead of one?
    Well this is the roman government tree right now: (note: the "marian reforms" are actually polybian reforms, and the onagers and polyboloi are post-marian units)
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    ;;;;;;;;; ----------- #5 Roman Government Tree -----------building hinterland_roman_govt
    {
    levels roman_govt_1 roman_govt_2 roman_govt_3 roman_govt_4 roman_govt_5 roman_govt_6 roman_govt_7 roman_govt_8 roman_govt_9
    {
    ;Deditio in fidem populi Romani
    roman_govt_1 requires factions { rome_republic, } and building_present_min_level hinterland_settlement_id id_1
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief pagan 11 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 1
    cost 0 ;0
    settlement_min village
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_2 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_2 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy ; build time 12 turns
    roman_govt_3 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy ; build time 10 turns
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource rome ; Rome can go directly to civitas Romana, build time 36 turns
    roman_govt_5 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Sociorum
    roman_govt_2 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }


    ;Umbria
    recruit "Lancearii Umbri" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_2


    ;Picentes
    recruit "Lancearii Praetutii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_3


    ;Iapygian
    recruit "Lancearii Messapii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_4


    ;Lucanian
    recruit "Lancearii Lucani" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_5


    recruit "aor samnite milites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor and not hidden_resource aor_greek


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    ;Recruitment - Tarenine AOR
    recruit "aor tarentine cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor
    recruit "aor tar pikemen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor


    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek


    ;campanian aor
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7
    recruit "aor campanian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian


    ;etruscan aor
    recruit "aor etruscan hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan
    recruit "aor etruscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan
    recruit "aor etrusci ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan
    recruit "aor etruscan skirmisher" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan


    recruit "aor italic hastati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms
    recruit "aor italic principes" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms
    recruit "aor italic triarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 12
    cost 0 ;4500
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_3 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Sine Suffragio
    roman_govt_3 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }



    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;ITALY ONLY (EXCLUDES ROME)
    ;Italic aor
    recruit "aor italic hastati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms
    recruit "aor italic principes" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms
    recruit "aor italic triarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan and not marian_reforms


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and not marian_reforms


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan and not marian_reforms


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and not marian_reforms


    ;Recruitment - Tarenine AOR
    recruit "aor greek thureophoroi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor polis hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and not marian_reforms


    ;campanian aor
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7 and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian and not marian_reforms


    ;etruscan aor
    recruit "aor etruscan hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor etrusci ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan and not marian_reforms


    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman scorpion" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 10
    cost 0 ;36200
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Romana
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - ROME - Improved Faction Units + Oscan AOR, ITALY (EXCLUDES ROME) Full Italic + Regional Units, ALL REGIONS - Artillery - COMPLETED


    ;ROME ONLY
    recruit "fac rome funditores" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome rorarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome leves" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome velites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome hastati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome principes" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome triarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan hastati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan principes" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan triarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms


    ;Marian Reform troops
    recruit "rome marian evocati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian legionary" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian legionary first cohort" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    ;ALL REGIONS
    recruit "roman onager" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman scorpion" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 20
    cost 0 ;7500
    settlement_min city
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_5 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    }
    }
    ;Imperium Populi Romani
    roman_govt_5 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - Limited AOR outside Italy - COMPLETED


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia


    ;aor thrace
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german warband" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german clubmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7

    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus -1 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 4
    cost 0 ;9500
    settlement_min town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_6 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_6
    roman_govt_7
    roman_govt_8
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Foederata Free & Allied City or Allied Community
    roman_govt_6 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment- Full AOR - COMPLETED


    recruit "aor carth elephants" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants
    recruit "aor carth towered elephant" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants


    ;aor thrace
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor getai ramphoia swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor thracian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor dii swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia

    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic
    recruit "aor nuragic warriors" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german heavy cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german warband" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Belgae
    recruit "aor belgae swords" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul and hidden_resource special_hr_9




    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7

    recruit "aor paionian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource special_hr_1


    ;Asia Minor
    recruit "aor carian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_5 and not hidden_resource capital


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi ambacti" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor numidian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor numidian noble cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia
    recruit "celtib scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor scutarii falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and not hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor ilergetes scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor iberian elite scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor iberian scutarii cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian heavy peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian light hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    recruit "aor veneti hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor lusitania
    recruit "aor lusitanian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_lusitania


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor greek thureophoroi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor polis hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek prodromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek hippeis" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor thessalian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_mace and hidden_resource special_hr_6
    recruit "aor rhodian slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "aor cretan archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_3 and not hidden_resource aor_mace


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms

    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 6
    cost 0 ;8800
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_7 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_9
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Libera
    roman_govt_7 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - Limited AOR - COMPLETED


    recruit "aor carth elephants" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants


    ;aor thracia
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia


    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic
    recruit "aor nuragic warriors" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    ;Belgae
    recruit "aor belgae swords" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul and hidden_resource special_hr_9


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor numidian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia
    recruit "celtib scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    recruit "aor veneti hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian light hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    ;aor lusitania
    recruit "aor lusitanian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_lusitania


    ;Asia Minor
    recruit "aor carian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_5 and not hidden_resource capital


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7


    recruit "aor greek thureophoroi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek prodromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek and marian_reforms

    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 6
    cost 0 ;13200
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_8 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_9
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Stipendiaria
    roman_govt_8 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - Increased AOR - COMPLETED


    recruit "aor carth elephants" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants




    ;aor thrace
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor thracian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia


    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic
    recruit "aor nuragic warriors" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german warband" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    recruit "aor paionian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource special_hr_1


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor numidian noble cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia
    recruit "celtib scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;Asia Minor
    recruit "aor carian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_5 and not hidden_resource capital


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor scutarii falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and not hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor ilergetes scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia

    recruit "aor veneti hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian heavy peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian light hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    ;Belgae
    recruit "aor belgae swords" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul and hidden_resource special_hr_9


    ;aor lusitania
    recruit "aor lusitanian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_lusitania


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor greek thureophoroi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor polis hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek prodromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek hippeis" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor rhodian slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "aor cretan archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_3 and not hidden_resource aor_mace


    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms

    happiness_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 6
    cost 0 ;31700
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_9 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_9
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Romana
    roman_govt_9 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }


    ;Marian Reform troops
    recruit "rome marian legionary" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian legionary first cohort" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    recruit "aor keltoi light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul

    recruit "aor thracian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    recruit "aor german light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german heavy cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    recruit "aor paionian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource special_hr_1


    recruit "aor numidian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor numidian noble cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor iberian scutarii cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    recruit "aor greek hippeis" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor thessalian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_mace and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    recruit "roman onager" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman scorpion" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 36
    cost 0 ;62000
    settlement_min city
    upgrades
    {
    }
    }
    }
    }

    You can edit it and post it here and if I like your changes I will apply them to my EDB. Also if there are still unit slots free so if you want to see a unit added, just tell me but I'll talk about the unit with a historian before I add it.

    For the pydna script, well, I think it's already fixed:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    ; 1.2 Elephant Herd population ;
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;


    monitor_event FactionTurnStart TrueCondition
    console_command add_population Pydna -200
    console_command add_population Pydna 36
    end_monitor


    monitor_event SettlementTurnStart SettlementName Pydna
    console_command add_population Pydna -200
    console_command add_population Pydna 36
    end_monitor


    For the roman leadership system, I will ask someone to do it for me because I'm not good in creating and editing traits and corresponding triggers (unless you like errorless ctd's =P )
    Last edited by EmoDude; November 09, 2015 at 01:47 PM.
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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    During the Mid Republic, the allied infantry became nigh indistinguishable from the Roman one, not sure about the cavalry. However, increased demands for manpower made the socii unhappy and ultimately led to the Socii War and the following Lex Julia (essentially granting Roman Citizenship to all Italia bar Cisalpine Gaul).

    Therefore, I think it's reasonable that Civitas Sine Suffragio should be an upgrade for the Civitas Sine Sociorum and should replace the latter's infantry with Italic Legions (same stats as Roman ones, perhaps a little lower morale and/or stamina value). There probably should be some allied counterpart to the velites, as well. I'm not sure whether the cavalry retained its local flavour or became also more romanized, i.e. heavy shock cavalry. Either way, there should definitely be allied cavalry in CSS.
    I agree with above mentioned. Although not every Italic city went historically trough all three phases (from Civitas sine sociorum to civitas sine suffragio and then to full roman citisenship - I think most of them were stuck on the first level untill Lex Iulian was issued) making Civitas sine Suffragio upgrade to Civitas Sociorum would still make sanse gameplaywise to represent the social and militari changes from early to middle republic. Also at the current state of affairs player can spread roman citzenship over the whole penninsula way too early. As for skirmishers I think it would be fine just to enable regular roman velites for Civitas sine Suffragio settlements as adding Italic Velites which would be a clone of regular Velites is wast of unit slot. Regarding cavalry I think it is better to cunsult with some historian but I am sure some there should be some availabe in CsS settlements.

    Well this is the roman government tree right now: (note: the "marian reforms" are actually polybian reforms, and the onagers and polyboloi are post-marian units)
    If you are adding camillian trops and making polybian reforms you may consider making Italic Legions just reform replacement for native socii units instead of messing with governments. Only problem I see with both possible solution is that relativley large number of units will just disapear for good quite early in the game (whole native Italic roster). However, they will still be in the game in the form of mercaneries.

    so if there are still unit slots free so if you want to see a unit added, just tell me but I'll talk about the unit with a historian before I add it.

    For the pydna script, well, I think it's already fixed:
    I would suggest to add some units representing Celtic Castro culture of north Hispania (Asturia, Cantabria). Most probaly it would be light spearmen armed with some throwing javelins representing regular tribal warrior. I know that Hamilcar Barca former RTR VII lead historian wanted such a unit but it never get into the game because of lack of manpower/low priority.IIRC, RSII have such a unit which can be eventually used. I forgot haw the unit is called there.

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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Iskandar is very much right. I will only add that the Socii should contribute their own, more various and able cavalry. Their soldiers originally had a part called Extraordinarii who formed somewhat of an elite, which is described by Polybios. I can't remember details about the skirmishers either, but I'm pretty sure they had some. Since Velites were only ''invented'' in 212 BC they would have been the only skilled skirmishers in the Roman army until the Second Punic War (all the Roman proletarii skirmishers were useless, which was the reason why the Velites were formed at all).

    @Dem

    Our Iberian historian on RTRP (CheesyFreak) suggested axemen (with javelins) for the Asturians
    Last edited by Mausolos of Caria; November 09, 2015 at 02:32 PM.


    Interested in the history of ancient Athens? Have a look here!

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...0#post14553020

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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOldSchoolEmoDude View Post
    1. give spies the right traits at the start of the campaign
    That's doable.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOldSchoolEmoDude View Post
    2. apply player1's fixes 3. add the health/genetics/personality traits from RSII 4. Add a trait that hugely reduces the fertility (-20 for example) from generals when they are in enemy territory (or in the enemy zone of control and outside a settlement), and restore it when they are back in friendly territory with a delay of 3 turns (9 months) to simulate pregnancy. I also would like a small fertility bonus as compensation when generals are inside a settlement that is not under siege (again with a delay of 3 turns). 5. Replace the arse trait by more historical accurate homo and bi-sexuality trait. With a influence penalty (or in case of hellenic "active" homosexual generals a small bonus), depending on culture (for example a large penalty for the carthaginians, a medium penalty for the romans and no effects for the celts) and if the general prefers to be "active" or "passive" if you know what I mean =P (a passive general should get a greater penalty).
    Yeah I have no clue how to work those text files...
    I'm in your EDB, nerfing your economy.

    RSIII: Athens
    RSII: Sparta

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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    @demagogos nicator:
    I edited the roman government tree a bit:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    ;;;;;;;;; ----------- #5 Roman Government Tree -----------
    building hinterland_roman_govt
    {
    levels roman_govt_1 roman_govt_2 roman_govt_3 roman_govt_4 roman_govt_5 roman_govt_6 roman_govt_7 roman_govt_8 roman_govt_9
    {
    ;Deditio in fidem populi Romani
    roman_govt_1 requires factions { rome_republic, } and building_present_min_level hinterland_settlement_id id_1
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief pagan 11 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 1
    cost 0 ;0
    settlement_min village
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_2 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_2 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy ; build time 12 turns
    ;roman_govt_3 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy ; build time 10 turns
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource rome ; Rome can go directly to civitas Romana, build time 36 turns
    roman_govt_5 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Sociorum
    roman_govt_2 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }


    ;Umbria
    recruit "Lancearii Umbri" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_2


    ;Picentes
    recruit "Lancearii Praetutii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_3


    ;Iapygian
    recruit "Lancearii Messapii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_4


    ;Lucanian
    recruit "Lancearii Lucani" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_5


    recruit "aor samnite milites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor and not hidden_resource aor_greek


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan
    recruit "aor oscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    ;Recruitment - Tarenine AOR
    recruit "aor tarentine cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor
    recruit "aor tar pikemen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor


    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek


    ;campanian aor
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7
    recruit "aor campanian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian


    ;etruscan aor
    recruit "aor etruscan hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan
    recruit "aor etruscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan
    recruit "aor etrusci ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan
    recruit "aor etruscan skirmisher" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan


    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 12
    cost 0 ;4500
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_3 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    ;roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Sine Suffragio
    roman_govt_3 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }



    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;ITALY ONLY (EXCLUDES ROME)
    ;Italic aor
    recruit "aor italic hastati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms
    recruit "aor italic principes" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms
    recruit "aor italic triarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms
    recruit "aor italic velites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and marian_reforms


    ;Umbria
    recruit "Lancearii Umbri" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not marian_reforms


    ;Picentes
    recruit "Lancearii Praetutii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_3 and not marian_reforms


    ;Iapygian
    recruit "Lancearii Messapii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_4 and not marian_reforms


    ;Lucanian
    recruit "Lancearii Lucani" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy and hidden_resource special_hr_5 and not marian_reforms


    recruit "aor samnite milites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor and not hidden_resource aor_greek


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor oscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and not marian_reforms


    ;REGIONAL UNITS
    ;oscan aor
    recruit "aor oscan skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor oscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_oscan


    ;Bruttii aor
    recruit "aor hoplomachi bruttii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italic_aor and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    ;Recruitment - Tarenine AOR
    recruit "aor tarentine cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor
    recruit "aor tar pikemen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_1 and hidden_resource italic_aor and not marian_reforms


    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and not marian_reforms


    ;campanian aor
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7
    recruit "aor campanian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian
    recruit "aor oscan armoured infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_campanian and not marian_reforms


    ;etruscan aor
    recruit "aor etruscan hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor etruscan cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan
    recruit "aor etrusci ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan and not marian_reforms
    recruit "aor etruscan skirmisher" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_etruscan and not marian_reforms


    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman scorpion" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus -2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 10
    cost 0 ;36200
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Romana
    roman_govt_4 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - ROME - Improved Faction Units + Oscan AOR, ITALY (EXCLUDES ROME) Full Italic + Regional Units, ALL REGIONS - Artillery - COMPLETED


    ;ROME ONLY
    recruit "fac rome funditores" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome rorarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome leves" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome velites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome hastati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome principes" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome triarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan hastati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan principes" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan triarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms
    recruit "fac rome camillan equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not marian_reforms


    ;Marian Reform troops
    recruit "rome marian evocati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian legionary" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian legionary first cohort" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    ;ALL REGIONS
    recruit "roman onager" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman scorpion" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 20
    cost 0 ;7500
    settlement_min city
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_5 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    }
    }
    ;Imperium Populi Romani
    roman_govt_5 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - Limited AOR outside Italy - COMPLETED


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia


    ;aor thrace
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german warband" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german clubmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7

    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus -1 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 4
    cost 0 ;9500
    settlement_min town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_6 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_6
    roman_govt_7
    roman_govt_8
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Foederata Free & Allied City or Allied Community
    roman_govt_6 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment- Full AOR - COMPLETED


    recruit "aor carth elephants" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants
    recruit "aor carth towered elephant" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants


    ;aor thrace
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor getai ramphoia swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor thracian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor dii swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia

    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic
    recruit "aor nuragic warriors" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german heavy cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german warband" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Belgae
    recruit "aor belgae swords" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul and hidden_resource special_hr_9




    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7

    recruit "aor paionian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource special_hr_1


    ;Asia Minor
    recruit "aor carian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_5 and not hidden_resource capital


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi ambacti" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor numidian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor numidian noble cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia
    recruit "celtib scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor scutarii falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and not hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor ilergetes scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor iberian elite scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor iberian scutarii cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian heavy peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian light hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    recruit "aor veneti hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor lusitania
    recruit "aor lusitanian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_lusitania


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor greek thureophoroi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor polis hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek prodromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek hippeis" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor thessalian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_mace and hidden_resource special_hr_6
    recruit "aor rhodian slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "aor cretan archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_3 and not hidden_resource aor_mace


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms

    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 6
    cost 0 ;8800
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_7 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_9
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Libera
    roman_govt_7 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - Limited AOR - COMPLETED


    recruit "aor carth elephants" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants


    ;aor thracia
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia


    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic
    recruit "aor nuragic warriors" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    ;Belgae
    recruit "aor belgae swords" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul and hidden_resource special_hr_9


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor numidian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia
    recruit "celtib scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    recruit "aor veneti hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian light hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    ;aor lusitania
    recruit "aor lusitanian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_lusitania


    ;Asia Minor
    recruit "aor carian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_5 and not hidden_resource capital


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7


    recruit "aor greek thureophoroi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek prodromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek and marian_reforms

    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 6
    cost 0 ;13200
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_8 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_9
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Stipendiaria
    roman_govt_8 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }

    ;Recruitment - Increased AOR - COMPLETED


    recruit "aor carth elephants" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_elephants




    ;aor thrace
    recruit "aor thrace peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace
    recruit "aor thracian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    ;aor dacia
    recruit "aor getai peltasts" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia
    recruit "aor getai falxmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_dacia


    ;nuragic aor
    recruit "aor nuragic archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic
    recruit "aor nuragic warriors" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_nuragic


    ;aor german
    recruit "aor german youngspears" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german bonereaper" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german warband" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;Batavian
    recruit "aor german batavian" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource special_hr_6 and hidden_resource aor_german


    ;aor Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_Castro


    ;Recruitment - Keltoi AOR
    recruit "aor keltoi skirmishers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi spearmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi swordsmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul
    recruit "aor keltoi light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul


    recruit "aor paionian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource special_hr_1


    ;africa_numidia aor
    recruit "aor numidian noble cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor libyan javelinmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    ;celtiberia aor
    recruit "aor celtib caetrati" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia
    recruit "celtib scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_celtiberia


    ;Asia Minor
    recruit "aor carian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_5 and not hidden_resource capital


    ;aor iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor scutarii falcata" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and not hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor ilergetes scutarii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia and hidden_resource special_hr_1
    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia

    recruit "aor veneti hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti ekdromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor veneti equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_veneti


    ;aor illyriana
    recruit "Ferentarii Liburnii" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource aor_veneti
    recruit "aor illyria light peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian heavy peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria
    recruit "aor illyrian light hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria


    ;Belgae
    recruit "aor belgae swords" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul and hidden_resource special_hr_9


    ;aor lusitania
    recruit "aor lusitanian infantry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_lusitania


    ;aor Balearic
    recruit "aor balearic slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic
    recruit "aor caetrati tribesmen" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_balearic


    recruit "aor greek thureophoroi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor ekdromoi hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor polis hoplitai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek toxotai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek psiloi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek peltastai" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek prodromoi" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor greek hippeis" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor rhodian slingers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "aor cretan archers" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_3 and not hidden_resource aor_mace


    recruit "aor campanian hoplites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_7


    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_2 and not hidden_resource capital
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource liby_phoenician or hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek and hidden_resource special_hr_9 and marian_reforms

    happiness_bonus bonus -3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus 3 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 6
    cost 0 ;31700
    settlement_min large_town
    upgrades
    {
    roman_govt_9 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource not_used
    roman_govt_9
    }
    }
    ;Civitas Romana
    roman_govt_9 requires factions { rome_republic, } and not hidden_resource italy
    {
    capability
    {
    religious_belief christianity 100 requires factions { rome_republic, }


    ;Marian Reform troops
    recruit "rome marian legionary" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian legionary first cohort" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "rome marian equites" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    recruit "aor keltoi light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_gaul

    recruit "aor thracian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_thrace


    recruit "aor german light cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german
    recruit "aor german heavy cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_german


    recruit "aor paionian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_illyria and hidden_resource special_hr_1


    recruit "aor numidian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia
    recruit "aor numidian noble cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_africa_numidia


    recruit "aor cantabrian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor caetrati cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia
    recruit "aor iberian scutarii cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_iberia


    recruit "aor greek hippeis" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_greek
    recruit "aor thessalian cavalry" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and hidden_resource aor_mace and hidden_resource special_hr_6


    recruit "roman onager" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman repeating ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman ballista" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman scorpion" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms
    recruit "roman siege 30mina" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    recruit "roman siege 1talent" 0 requires factions { rome_republic, } and marian_reforms


    happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    law_bonus bonus 1 requires factions { rome_republic, }
    }
    construction 36
    cost 0 ;62000
    settlement_min city
    upgrades
    {
    }
    }
    }
    }

    @Mausolos & demagogos: I'll add such a unit then
    @Alavaria: then I'll ask someone else to edit the trait files
    "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice; socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality. " -Mikhail Bakunin
    "One of the oldest canards against anarchism is that it is impractical, that without central authority to keep the peons in line any large project will dissolve into chaos and disorder. Yet the open source software movement provides modern day proof that anarchism works, even when not conducted by anarchists." -Sublett

  8. #748

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    It seems that Civitas Sine Suffragio requires Marian Reforms in order to recruit Italic Hastati/Principes etc. However, that was not the case. The Socii gradually started to emulate roman infantry and by the time of the Second Punic War they were pretty much the same. The Marian reforms were over a century later and did away with the cavalry and light infantry and merged all three heavy infantry types into one.

    Basically, as Roman draw on allied manpower increased, their armies started to become more similar. This fostered dissatisfaction among the Socii as time wore on, though, which is why I think Civitas Sine Suffragio has negative happiness and law bonuses. So CS should have all the local flavour infantry and cavalry, whereas CSS should replace these with Italic Velites/Hastati/etc. and some cavalry, whether local or romanized, I am not sure. All of this needs to happen independent of the Marian Reforms, the Reforms should replace the Roman and Allied units with the cohorts.
    Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana...

  9. #749

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Those "marian reforms" are actually not marian reforms but polybian reforms instead
    "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice; socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality. " -Mikhail Bakunin
    "One of the oldest canards against anarchism is that it is impractical, that without central authority to keep the peons in line any large project will dissolve into chaos and disorder. Yet the open source software movement provides modern day proof that anarchism works, even when not conducted by anarchists." -Sublett

  10. #750

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    See this is what happens when people don't read code as code.
    I'm in your EDB, nerfing your economy.

    RSIII: Athens
    RSII: Sparta

  11. #751

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOldSchoolEmoDude View Post
    Those "marian reforms" are actually not marian reforms but polybian reforms instead
    Quote Originally Posted by Alavaria View Post
    See this is what happens when people don't read code as code.
    Didn't read his previous post in its entirety, wondered for a moment about the string meaning and decided to go with the simplest explanation. Occam's Razor is not set in stone, especially when operating from faulty information, nothing to see, move along, these droids aren't the ones you are looking for...

    p.s. Also, naming conventions used to matter
    Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana...

  12. #752

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Iskandar View Post
    p.s. Also, naming conventions used to matter
    They do, we're at this point basically abusing the ALX.exe to do all kinds of special things it wasn't envisioned for by the original creators.

    But we have to live with their hardcodes, like why would RTW ever need more than 500 units, or 200 regions or 20(21) factions?!
    I'm in your EDB, nerfing your economy.

    RSIII: Athens
    RSII: Sparta

  13. #753
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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Regarding the starting spies not having the "Native of" trait, I think every starting spy doesn't have it, it either wasn't possible or was by design. I just use the starting spy do the conventional spystuffs.

  14. #754

    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    More like when the traits were added, the person didn't think of editing the descr_strat to give these. Obviously every other spy has it, you'll note the starting ones even have the right names (eg: of Sparta).
    I'm in your EDB, nerfing your economy.

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    RSII: Sparta

  15. #755
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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    I remember reading this thread ages ago RTR-VII-Spies-informers-conspirators-and-traitors, they don't say whether or not the spies can be fixed so I guess you can edit the descr_strat, you'll just have to start a new campaign, i guess. I gather that a an effort to polish up RTRVII is in the works, if so here are a couple issues I remember having while playing a while back. Playing as the Romans and the Scroll ancillaries they added in (I think) patch 3, were way too easy to get, all my family members would be have all 8 ancillary spots full, most being the scrolls , which made transferring the the Cursus Honorum ancillaries a huge pain. Making them harder to get or lowering the chance would probably help with the issue. There is also a bugfix submod in the submod section that had a few fixes that I feel were pretty spot on, might be worth checking out. Thanks, good luck.

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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathtoEgo View Post
    the Scroll ancillaries they added in (I think) patch 3, were way too easy to get, all my family members would be have all 8 ancillary spots full, most being the scrolls , which made transferring the the Cursus Honorum ancillaries a huge pain. Making them harder to get or lowering the chance would probably help with the issue.
    Those scrolls are quite troublesome at times. Don't leave generals in settlements unless you're ready to get loaded down with them... or have a plan to make max use of it.
    I'm in your EDB, nerfing your economy.

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    Default Re: RTR VII Patch 3 Bugs and Issues Thread

    Playing as the Romans and the Scroll ancillaries they added in (I think) patch 3, were way too easy to get, all my family members would be have all 8 ancillary spots full, most being the scrolls , which made transferring the the Cursus Honorum ancillaries a huge pain. Making them harder to get or lowering the chance would probably help with the issue. There is also a bugfix submod in the submod section that had a few fixes that I feel were pretty spot on, might be worth checking out. Thanks, good luck.
    Strangelly enough in my current roman campaign (and first in RTR VII in the same time) my FM did recieved any single scroll ancillary but all the AI helenistic characters I have seen on the campaign map had the tons of them.

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    Is there anyone who knows how to replace the bugged barbarian wooden walls by the ones from vanilla? The gates are invisible and the destruction animation is missing.
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