Welcome to the commentary thread for the current debate. I'm sure this will be another terrific debate from these two.
Welcome to the commentary thread for the current debate. I'm sure this will be another terrific debate from these two.
Heir to Noble Savage in the Imperial House of Wilpuri
I think a genocide as Christians would be ALOT scarier than genocide by environmentalists. As a rule environmentalists try to not mess up the environment which in war ro genocide really provides limitations in this day and age where most weapons do so. Also, if the Crusades are anything to go by, if the Christian or "Christian" populations are ever riled up to actually fight for something like that again, then a Crusade with modern technology would be even worse than before. If Christians actually chose to go into a genocide in this age where everyone fears killing someone on purpose due to what people will think of them (depending on your own beliefs and mindsets of course) than the fervor would be higher and the second crusade (which is probably what it would take the form of or be related to) would porbably be as good as the first in the "new" crusades which would ensue.
By the way I AM a Christian so not hating, just giving my opinion...
Normally, you write your own posts instead of copy/pasting from answersingenesis. Like TR did here:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/arti...ng-the-obvious
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Well if the spelling is correct and there are no grammatical errors then the odds are he copy pasted.
But seriously? Genocide? Why such a fantastical debate topic?
Is it just me, or do none of the environmentalist quotes have anything to do with the killing off of an individual race?
Last edited by Veliky Kaiser Theos; March 10, 2012 at 08:38 PM.
I didnt even bother to read his block of quotes.
We had crusades and jihads so i think religious leaders should not have nukes.But people who like trees and flowers and nature are usually not the type to use nukes.And are too stoned to even bother going to war.
So to Justicars bite size post:
TR is able to respond with a book full of copy-pasta... nearly an entire page to such a small post.I showed you exactly where god does state all unbelievers must die in my first post. And your canaanite 'defence' which amounts to 'we spread black propaganda about them then raped and murdered our way across there land'. So you support the Holocaust? The nazis made it clear that it was there land, and that all jews should leave. Which by the standards as you apply them is all you need to do before genocide and rape become ok. You also issued no rebutal of the duty to rape.
And the thread is about: Is Genocide still, or has it ever been the religious duty of the Abrahamic faiths, if so should they ever be forgiven, or should they be pariahs as the perpetrators of the holocaust are.
Woah, Total relism is back?
Time to open the Second Front. Hurrah! Hurrah!
Anyway, blimey, this is just ridiculous, then again, what did I expect from TR?
Total wrote the title, it wasn't what he'd asked to debate.
But why genocide? Simple. There is a biblical duty to genocide, laid out in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, Which begged the question in my view 1) do those rules still apply? (And the NT appears to say they do) and 2) Even if they do not why should Yahweh who orders them be forgiven? Mao, Stalin, Hitler. All ordered Genocide, all are rightly viewed as monsters, why is Yahweh any different?
My posts are unlikely to be huge, as just raising a few examples should suffice to make the point, (with additional references if necessary)
Last edited by justicar5; March 12, 2012 at 05:45 PM.
I dont think TR directly answered your question in your last post. Instead he posts a page full of quotes. You asked why should yahweh be forgiven for genocide when Stalin isnt. TR literally ignores it. Or its somewhere in his quote block.
Well that depends. If you genuinely believe that the submission is forgiveness, then is it?
That doesn't answer the question. Why does a god deserve forgiveness?
You don't really need to search for something to find whether it was copied. Grammar is a good enough indicator.
Last edited by Veliky Kaiser Theos; March 13, 2012 at 09:28 AM.
Beauty with Google is that you can search for sentences and your find the site it matches. I wouldnt be surprised if Cahoma just copy pasted that quote from TRs post into google and discovered the link on the first return.
he has just posted walls of text, mostly from AiG (that nest of murderous vipers)
I imagine this is a result of some hyperbolic overreaction to an overpopulation discussion.