Bellum Crucis 6.3 is OUT + TORRENT ADDED + ENGLISH AND SPANISH TRANSLATION. A VIDEO PREVIEW OF THE NEXT VERSION!!!

[SirPeacemaker]

one day Peacemaker ... vy dva jste Češi ne ?

I dont know if he is, but I´m Slovak I´m writing this in english, because I´m not sure if is our native language allowed in this conversation

[one day]

one day Peacemaker ... vy dva jste Češi ne ?

Only in English, please... (Taky všechno vykecáš.. )

[Maroslav]

[Blackphoenix]

Great Mod, without a doubt one of the best i have ever played for Medieval 2!

But having played 2 full games (well almost) i found a couple of weird bugs.

The first one i think it has been mentioned here, is about the unit/building cards, the screen gets all messy and alot of those times it crashes de game without having the chance to save. really annoying when i remember that the last time i quicksaved was like 10 or 20 turns ago

The second one is really weird, i don't know if its something that happens just to me or if anyone has experienced it. For some reason the game gets really slow when it reaches around turn 265. everything gets really slow, the turns passing, the campaign map, everything. I have tried with the original game and other mods and it doesnt happen there, maybe a weird script that gets activated around that turn or something? because when i return to the game menu or even start a new game, the game runs at a normal speed but has soon as i load the problematic one, it gets slow. tried two diferent saves from diferent games and they both get really slow when i reach 200's turns.

But i have to say, apart from these two problems, really love the mod.
Keep up the good work guys!

[SirPeacemaker]

Hmm another question. I just joined a crusade but I cant hire any boats at seashore. Since I have no city close to sea I can´t build any ships. Now I have big desertion in my crusaders army, because marching to Holy land is soo slow. Is there really no chance to hire a mercenary boat?

[one day]

It´s new for me, that the generals cannot hire any mercenary boats near coast. Maybe It would explain, why AI cannot reach the destinations of crusade in this version.

[Maroslav]

in manual is written the mercenarry boats can be hired only in some cities in Italy.

[SirPeacemaker]

Looks like this is Czechoslovakian topic only Maroslav , you were obviously right what you wrote me in the private message

[Marman]

Hi all,
follow this link to find the the instructions of how to make your mod English speaking and looking.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3639

Let me know if it worked for you.

[Matherlandia]

Hi there, that's Mather, administrator of MTWI.


As you can easily imagine, I really don't appreciate deplorable, totally fake assertions about our community, our moderators, our users, and a visible lack of respect about our work at large.

Nobody on MTWItalia cares about TWC

Guy, How long are you registered on this forum ?


Have you got any idea how many co-ops projects we've been involved in, since 2006 on THIS FORUM ?


Do u believe MTWI banner u can find on Twc homepage is just for decoration ?

Reasons do span from "TWC is too big and thus there's too much stupidity involved, both from users and admins"

I cannot stand surety for 3,154 users with total freedom of thought (we really do not manage a concentration camp) but I can do it for myself as Administrator and forum founder , so please, I dare you to find one of my post speaking in
these terms about TWC.

Yes sure they are correct when it comes to mod-management, and you could also never had any issue with them. I get it. What has this stuff to do with my post? Boh

Never said "all TWC users are supid". Nor "all MTWI users are genius". The fact I take the time to post here these things is the proof, as already stated by me (superfracchiona )

In other words, you never told what u told.

As far I can see, Obi-wan Berlusconi has taught you well.


Actually, it's not a secret you rather partially defined our historical point of view about TW OFFICIAL

FORUM (maybe things got better since 2006/2007 when users could be easily banned and their threads

closed/removed just for posting a

bad feedback on a TW game, no idea, you know what ? I really don't care, that's another story and not

referred to this forum)



By the way, I can personally ASSURE Northman75 that Fracchione IS NOT SPEAKING in my or my

moderators' name and so HE'S NOT SPEAKING IN MTWI's NAME.

MTWItalia is a team of dedicated modders which dislike the actual CA games, due to lack of modding support

That's just a half truth, TW serie is not a unique block (we grew up on Shogun the first) and the attitude you are referring to, looks fortunately connected to the past (or at least is what we HOPE ! For further info, I invite you to read my really
explanatory "wall-text" posted on http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...456597&page=28 )

many of mod makers are diferent nationality but they post their mods here( here where main language is english) and work together with betatesters. i think better idea is rly remove your mod here and present him here, where is a
fan majority which need support and help with. Bcoz i think almost of your ita forum users know twc and use him. Open one english topic in italian forum ? why? lets do here and in big style how is possible. and lets go fix bugz

Maroslav, your feedback is clear and comprehensible as a "customer" 's viewpoint but u really should
consider our mod community stand too...so I'll try to let u understand point by point :


1) MTWI IS NOT ONLY BELLUM CRUCIS; we were born as group of ancient / medieval history accuracy lovers who strongly wished to get the best possible experience of history reviving using videogames.

This love immediatly brought us to TW saga which we consider - to this day - the best available videogame engine and best way to get that feeling.


Due to our European history Knowledge and technical skills we clearly understood we could improved many aspects of that system and lead it to the path we wanted, so...why not ?

We started to mod it brick by brick, unit by unit, faction by faction.


BC is just ONE of the results we got, one of the many mods hosted or produced by Medieval Total War Italia Community.


We are friends, collegues, buddies : we're a LIVING COMMUNITY keeping a long and personal history : WE ARE NOT A MOD REPOSITORY.


MTWI is the HEART, BC's just part of the body.

Could a body live dividing it from his heart ?

2) MTWI IS NOT ONLY TOTAL WAR; we host several historical games discussions about M&B mods,

Stronghold saga, historical MMORPGs and even relating to few fantasy, generally historically-related, games.


Historical literature, films, music and even heraldic research :


I repeat, WE ARE NOT A MOD REPOSITORY.


3) As we previously explained more and more times,


BC is an historical mod MADE BY ITALIANS, INTENDED FOR ITALIANS.


We certainly respect modders who intend their works for the big international public but it's not the


way we are and we use to think.


We don't develop historical scripts and events for fame, we do it to be true to medieval history from an


Italian historiographic viewpoint, and you know what ? It works ! People all over the world appreciate BC

because able to provide a different, HISTORICAL game experience but man, that's a kind of result you

can only get by doing it in the way you feel, surrounded by people you trust in a well protected

ambient.

We LOVE to be able to share our work with every man, woman, hobbit, would like to respond to Bellum

Crucis challange ALL over the world and that's the only reason why we proceeded with big

translations into most common and accessible languages (ENG and SPA),

We certainly appreciate your feedback as gamers and history lovers, we think that's a basic way to

correct errors, gaps, inaccuracies and remember that your support is specially regarded if connected to

historiographically less-known European countries and factions THUS here comes the creation of the

thread.

But the point is (and if I wasn't clear enough) THAT's THE WAY WE ARE : an Italian community who

pretends to go on with its way of doing things, in its natural environment.


Really Hope I made myself clear and dispel rumors and uncomprensions I've seen along the discussion


in case more doubts, just come to visit our Embassy section on MTWI, I promise you a really fair shake


Best Regards !

[SirPeacemaker]

Hi all,
follow this link to find the the instructions of how to make your mod English speaking and looking.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3639

Let me know if it worked for you.

Is this the same file as it´s recommended at the beginning of this topic?

[Maroslav]

man i dont steal u your love to history etc and i rly respect your work bcoz is the best and most funny on campaign map what i ever seen. only what i asked here if you can work on less agrresive diplomatic system. but i rly dont understand one thing and its this ,,BC is an historical mod MADE BY ITALIANS, INTENDED FOR ITALIANS.'' . You made this mod mainly for Italians but i posted here coz u wanted share this challenge for all people- thats rly little conflict between these opinions. One time u posted here so u had to get that people will go here and posts their suggestions and bug reports etc. Except some Fracchione i see only fans who came here ask on something fro mthis mod. My opininon is that u have unbalanced and senseless aggresive diplomatic system in BC and i asked if u will change something on that in future for me and players like me who dont like so much agrresive Ai but want play your mod for your great improvements. some changes on diplomatic system dont change anything on historical accuracy and will make some resort of players much more happy. But if u dont want listen, speak and try do something for people here (TWC) than i rly dont understand why u posted this here. And how i said many times, it can be rly pitty dont cooperate with people, who has some ideas which can be good for your mod, bcoz this mod can be perfect for everyone and it will not change anything on your mod in finall.

[Fracchione]

@Mather, Fracchione has never said he speaks for MTWI. He is used to tell the truth. If you fear the might of TWC or Berlusconi, it's not my fault.Nor if you are aligned with a bunch of rabbits the only thing they do is advertising. The serie won't improve this way.

[+Mr.Crow+]

but i rly dont understand one thing and its this ,,BC is an historical mod MADE BY ITALIANS, INTENDED FOR ITALIANS.'' . You made this mod mainly for Italians but i posted here coz u wanted share this challenge for all people- thats rly little conflict between these opinions.

No friend, there is not a conflict: we italians has created also the famous PIZZA. Pizza is something MADE BY ITALIANS, INTENDED FOR ITALIANS...but we have exported it in all over the world

this mod can be perfect for everyone

Do you really think a thing like this one?....Friend, a mod that can be perfect for everyone DOES NOT EXIST...it's like unicorns, dragons, hobbits and Fracchione's stupid statements


BTW we really appreciate fans' ideas...we read them all also if we don't answare each time: if we like an idea you will be sure that you will see it in future mod version, but if we don't like it you will not see it...

And guys, don't forget: we are not paid for this...if someone think to have a splendid idea to improve the mod, he can always create a submod...we love submod

[Maroslav]

i doubt that Italians had so big problems when they shared pizza with other countires pizza and your mod is totally uncomparable rly stupid compairng When i order pizza they let me chose what i want. pizza is for one person but your mod is for many players. anyway- perfect mod can not exist true, but with listening wishes of fans you may be very close. question is if u want listen.

[+Mr.Crow+]

question is if u want listen.

BTW we really appreciate fans' ideas...we read them all also if we don't answare each time: if we like an idea you will be sure that you will see it in future mod version, but if we don't like it you will not see it...

And guys, don't forget: we are not paid for this...if someone think to have a splendid idea to improve the mod, he can always create a submod...we love submod

[Maroslav]

ok thats great i thought u dont wanna do it in fact make more versions of dificult like in Stainless Steel will nto change anything on your great mod only it will become better for some players.I cant do submods bcoz i havent experience and work with diplomatic and Ai scripts can be hard for start or not? and it can do maybe uncompatible if somebody dont know how works your another scripts?. btw. - when i play denmark i can form kalmar union if i am in war with norway?

[Matherlandia]

Nor if you are aligned with a bunch of rabbits the only thing they do is advertising. The serie won't improve this way.

Man, things can evolve...I repeat, Total War is not an unique block and people who work on are not always the same.

If u ask me an honest feedback about Rome TW BUGbarian Invasion, Merdieval Vanilla or Empire total S..t, I can surely agree;

but u cannot honestly reserve this lapidary verdict to Shougun 2, because it simply would't reflect the truth.

I am not part of TW or CA staff, so I can certainly give no assurance on next tw chapters, but, as Tw long
time veteran, I can tell u I noticed a REAL ATTITUDE CHANGE based on fan base feedback since Napoleon TW.

It's impossible to deny CA guys took A LOT of cues from mods, fan wishes and suggestions this time and THIS IS THE EXACT REASON which determined the creation of a very higher quality product comparing with previous chapters.

AI, historical units, animations, videos, strat and battle map graphic and balance, vassalage, online customization characters...In other words, a positive clean break with past s..ts (at least in my view).

You can actually doesn't like the "exotic" historical period, or not so much (as I do) but you cannot deny
that's a very good product, to be right.

That's just my opinion, I don't pretend to see the future cause it's clear enough how anything could happen in videogame business but I'm pretty sure if CA developers will keep this new line (thanking rising presence of more rival companies too),
and not so far we'll get a superb Rome 2 / Med 3 Total war.

"Chi vivrŕ, vedrŕ" we Italians use to say (=who'll live, will see.), that's it.

[Northman75]

man i dont steal u your love to history etc and i rly respect your work bcoz is the best and most funny on campaign map what i ever seen. only what i asked here if you can work on less agrresive diplomatic system. but i rly dont understand one thing and its this ,,BC is an historical mod MADE BY ITALIANS, INTENDED FOR ITALIANS.'' . You made this mod mainly for Italians but i posted here coz u wanted share this challenge for all people- thats rly little conflict between these opinions. One time u posted here so u had to get that people will go here and posts their suggestions and bug reports etc. Except some Fracchione i see only fans who came here ask on something fro mthis mod. My opininon is that u have unbalanced and senseless aggresive diplomatic system in BC and i asked if u will change something on that in future for me and players like me who dont like so much agrresive Ai but want play your mod for your great improvements. some changes on diplomatic system dont change anything on historical accuracy and will make some resort of players much more happy. But if u dont want listen, speak and try do something for people here (TWC) than i rly dont understand why u posted this here. And how i said many times, it can be rly pitty dont cooperate with people, who has some ideas which can be good for your mod, bcoz this mod can be perfect for everyone and it will not change anything on your mod in finall.

I really cant agree here with you. I fully understand that the mod was ORIGINALLY made by italians, intended for italians, cause BC was "born" and developed in the italian TW community, so thats why some aspects/contents of the mod are more from an italian point of view just like "matherlandia" said. So I can sure understand this point. BUT there are not only fans at this thread who are alone with problems/questions realated to BC (just look who opened this thread and is always present to help out). And I think if you come along with good ideas which fit in the concept of the mod, then the devs will listen and think about it, but people just have a different taste what makes a good mod/game, so please dont be so angry about that diplomacy ai. Yes it is damn aggressive, but not senseless or too aggressive, it just makes the mod a lot more challenging. And based on the reputation system it makes a lot sense. So to start such a big discussion for that detail is not fair. There are always things i a mod which could be better, but hej, thats why theres a hell of a variety of mods out there so that everybody can find a mods thats fits his taste and like Mr. Crow said, there is no perfect mod (wise words indeed)

[Maroslav]

senseless discusion man how u said we all have our own tastes. i didnt say problem in diplomacy is only coz is based on rep. and military statistics- i said is uselessly and bad made, bcoz is e hard make reputation higher. Man plis try first play this mod on harder dificult not only on easy and play some small naton not some HRE or something big and than tell me. second- i dont see historical ,,authentic'' in auto-drop of my reputation with other factions. how is possible i have reputation 9 with Syrians against who i go on crusade but have only 4 reputation with someone with who i never had borders, no contact except with diplomat? is little weird. In fact- i dont wanna be ignorant but its a just a game and this mod is the closest to me with gameplay- i only wait on next bugfixes and i hope they will do something with this agresive ai. about other of this conversations- thats only sad oftopic which is leaded for senseless explaining which nobody cares about- only on results of works.