The Syrian Civil War Thread

[Vanoi]

Lol you support the terrorists and their Sharia councils. The ones who beat up old men and commit suicide bombings.

Really? I haven't seen motiv supporting Al-Nusra in this thread.

Oh wait thats right, you think all of the Syrian rebels are terrorists no matter how many times this view has been debunked.

I think its the greatest example of confirmation bias i have ever seen.

I support the people who slaughter such people.

And meanwhile killing thousands of civilians. But those women and children were just dirty jihadists am I right?

[motiv-8]

Lol you support the terrorists and their Sharia councils. The ones who beat up old men and commit suicide bombings.

Yeah that's why you can find me writing stuff like "I'm with Jabhat al-Nusra!" Oh wait no you can't, because I'm not. Oh wait, I post videos from people who protest their activity at the same time they oppose Assad. Oops, look like your attempt at a tu quoque argument fell as flat as your other attempts to attack others.

I support the people who slaughter such people.

Well that's a lie, otherwise you would be supporting the lion's share of the opposition which fights such people AND the jihadists. Instead you support criminality, abuse, dictatorship, oppression, gangsterism, sectarianism, and now you are supporting jihad. That's a shame but also hilariously ironic. Now you're without a doubt, by your own admission, a jihad apologist.

[Treize]

If I had to choose between a sunni theocracy or war it would be the latter.

[The Gurkhan]

Better dead than Red.

Amen.

[motiv-8]

If I had to choose between a sunni theocracy or war it would be the latter.

That's SO interesting, and disturbing as far as false dichotomies go, but this thread is about Syria. If you cannot keep track of the discussion perhaps you should take some time off. Or perhaps you could tell us more about your support for the Syrian government and its jihad against its own people?

[Treize]

If a sensible minority has its way over a fanatic allahuakbar screaming majority I support this minority in keeping the majority under the thumb.

[motiv-8]

Haha that's cute, Treize has been too busy glorifying dictators and murder to read the thread and see how someone saying Allahu Akbar in no way means they're a terrorist or a theocrat.

Also +1 for the inadvertent racism towards Arabs.

[Rights of the Individual]

Conciding with these developments is the destruction of the Syrian Army's 113th Brigade which was assigned to defend the Deir Ez-Zor Airport, the last major regime installation in the city, if not the whole province.

What are the vehicles being shown? I saw the video earlier and I couldn't make them out. maybe a Fire Control BMP for Artillery or SAMs?

[motiv-8]

A lot of them look like ZSU-23 Shilka's to me but I'm not sure.

[Rights of the Individual]

I thought that too but the "turret"s are completely wrong along with the fact that they're missing a crucial component; guns

[frozenprince]

Treize advocates slaughter in thread, claims one side morally superior to other. Ignoring that side he supports is MORE fanatical than the one he decries.

I... am actually in awe of that.

[DarthShizNit]

Unless those vehicles were knocked out in combat (doesn't look like it) it seems a waste to fill them full of RGP's instead of using them yourself, unless the goverment set them on fire instead.

[Heathen Hammer]

Or perhaps you could tell us more about your support for the Syrian government and its jihad against its own people?

Or perhaps you could tell us why do you support Syrian insurgents in their war against their own people?

[motiv-8]

That's pretty simple, and I've done it before. I support the ability of the people to take up arms in order to defend themselves against the violence of their own government, when they have no other recourse, as happened in Syria in 2011. I would have much preferred there to be no civil war, no death, no destruction, no wasting of an entire generation to conflict, poverty, hunger, and despair, but Bashar al-Assad insisted that his people have all those things so here we are.

That question is an elevation in knowledge for you, actually; you finally admit that the insurgency is native in character instead of mindlessly repeating the propaganda line that they're "foreign terrorist gangs." So good on you, you're learning.

[Treize]

Treize advocates slaughter in thread, claims one side morally superior to other. Ignoring that side he supports is MORE fanatical than the one he decries.

I... am actually in awe of that.

Yeah sure. Nobody is saying Assad's regime was all good and nice. On the contracy. But the only alternative is the Muslim Brotherhood or worse.
Under Assad the three main religious groups lived peacefully side by side, they had free healthcare, free education and a reasonable living standard.
But hey, lets have ten thousands of deaths, have many formerly beautiful, lower standards of live, infrastructure that takes years to rebuild (if you had a functioning government that is) and ancient cities now turned into Battlefield 3 maps so we can have the wonderful freedom to elect the Muslim Brotherhood to lead us (and opress the dirty Alewite/Christian kafirs).

The people who support Assad prefer religious tolerence, free healthcare/education over bearded men with the quran on their left hand and a kalashnikov in their right hand. Even if that means having to live in a totalitarian police state.

[Vanoi]

Yeah sure. Nobody is saying Assad's regime was all good and nice. On the contracy. But the only alternative is the Muslim Brotherhood or worse.

Once again showing Treize you don't know anything about this conflict.

Under Assad the three main religious groups lived peacefully side by side, they had free healthcare, free education and a reasonable living standard.

I guess free healthcare education and reasonable living standards is suppose to make up for the fact the people live in a totalitarian police state?

But hey, lets have ten thousands of deaths, have many formerly beautiful, lower standards of live, infrastructure that takes years to rebuild (if you had a functioning government that is) and ancient cities now turned into Battlefield 3 maps so we can have the wonderful freedom to elect the Muslim Brotherhood to lead us (and opress the dirty Alewite/Christian kafirs).

You mean just like in Libya where they elected an Islamist party that wanted to enforce Sharia law? Oh wait....

I know you like to ignore facts and any arguments presented against you, but please at least stop posting blatant lies. There are many alternatives in this conflict. Its just with your obvious confirmation bias you seem to only see one alternative with the rebels while ignoring all of the others.

The people who support Assad prefer religious tolerence, free healthcare/education over bearded men with the quran on their left hand and a kalashnikov in their right hand. Even if that means having to live in a totalitarian police state.

Even though there is no guarantee whatsoever this will happen?

[Thorn777]

That's pretty simple, and I've done it before. I support the ability of the people to take up arms in order to defend themselves against the violence of their own government, when they have no other recourse, as happened in Syria in 2011. I would have much preferred there to be no civil war, no death, no destruction, no wasting of an entire generation to conflict, poverty, hunger, and despair, but Bashar al-Assad insisted that his people have all those things so here we are.

That question is an elevation in knowledge for you, actually; you finally admit that the insurgency is native in character instead of mindlessly repeating the propaganda line that they're "foreign terrorist gangs." So good on you, you're learning.

So what about them drones or stripping away citizenship when them Alex Jones's, Malcom X's, or Raging Bull's take up arms against an opressing US govt?

[Vanoi]

or stripping away citizenship when them Alex Jones's, Malcom X's, or Raging Bull's take up arms against an opressing US govt?

You realize the US government has had the power to strip people of their citizenship for a while now? Like over a hundred years?

And in fact the very scenario you described is treason. If convicted of treason, a person will lose their citizenship.

[motiv-8]

So what about them drones or stripping away citizenship when them Alex Jones's, Malcom X's, or Raging Bull's take up arms against an opressing US govt?

What "opressing" US "govt"? The one that let these people express their opinions? That allows them to vote? Malcolm X preached violence when even members of his own community rejected it and succeeded in bringing change by peaceful means. Alex Jones can -- and does -- vote for political candidates who are amenable to his whacked out views. It's embarrassing for you that you compare the situation in a free, democratic country with that in a dictatorship where if you wanted to open a business, you had to pay off the right Ba'ath Party member, if you wanted a passport you had to pay off the right Ba'ath Party member, if you wrote a newspaper article calling for democracy you were kidnapped by intelligence agents until your family paid off the right Ba'ath Party member, if you wanted to participate in government you had to be a Ba'ath Party member, if you peacefully protested you were shot in the street or kidnapped and tortured.

[white-wolf]

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