WIP: The WW1 mappack ( New map video GALICIA p 27 ,new map Easternfront p29, fort de Vaux p31)

[General Brewster]

I would have sworn I posted "nice" earlier this day

Awesome work

[panzerschreck]

I need a little help: could you find me more pics about the landing boats at Gallipoli (dardanelles), I would like to add some models of landing boats to my map

[PunitorMaximus]

here you can see many steam ships with sails too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3E_O...yer_detailpage
some pretty pictures

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enjoy

[Litany of fury]

This is certainly working up to be a simply spectacular mod!

[panzerschreck]

Thanks Punitor Maximus


an other research: I am looking for pics about the battle of Tannenberg in 1914. I found very few pics, always the same. They don't allow me to imagine how was exactly the battlefield. I need also some pics in good quality to make a loading screen for the map, especially pictures of defeat.
+rep for help

[PunitorMaximus]

thats an easy one (considering research)
this will tell you everything about the battle itself


the battle of tannenberg is extremely difficult to depict in NTW, cuz it took place in a huge area.

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and here are some good pictures for loading scrrens:

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russians

germans

russian prisoners


nice colour pic of russian advance (im sure they´re don cossacks, cuz of the trousers)

[panzerschreck]

thats an easy one
this will tell you everything about the battle itself


the first pic gives you great info about the landscape and the vegetation.

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thanks, but I knew that video, if you find others things, I take

[PunitorMaximus]

see edit. some simages for loading screen.
finding some terrain info is dammin difficult.
if i find some i´ll ofcourse give it to you

tannenberg, east prussia = stebark, poland
http://maps.google.de/maps?q=St%C4%9...-8&sa=N&tab=wl
well, the battle is 98 year ago, but the terrain only changed considering forests and fields.
i hope you can gain the vegetational information from the video and the battle plans.
although i think the the forests are still very close to the 1914 ones.

[panzerschreck]

As Kut el Amara will be delayed (problem of vegetation), NEXT MAP will be: (In red the part of the battle that will be represented) TANNENBERG, 1914


Loading screen will be:

[panzerschreck]

Some tries about trench warfare with a new model from primergy, gabions that were still used in WW1:

[Highlander_23]

Pretty epic! That would be fine for trenches for me!

[PunitorMaximus]

i also think that his is the best solution for tannenberg.

pretty trenches btw! are the menable to fire over them?
will you use different trench types for the maps and regions?
stone walls in gallipoli, the alps, the balkan and the near east, dirt trenches at the western front...

[panzerschreck]

i also think that his is the best solution for tannenberg.

pretty trenches btw! are the menable to fire over them?
will you use different trench types for the maps and regions?
stone walls in gallipoli, the alps, the balkan and the near east, dirt trenches at the western front...

exactly, all the trenches maps will not be the same.
yes the soldiers fire over them and are protected by them.

[Whukid]

exactly, all the trenches maps will not be the same.
yes the soldiers fire over them and are protected by them.

How much are they protected by artillery? IMO, in an ideal scenario, (Note that key phrase) the earthworks in NTW would protect from small arms but not heavy artillery. How that would be implemented, I have no idea.

[Highlander_23]

Something tells me if an 80 pound shell lands beside you in a trench you won't worry if the trench defended you, because you probably won't even have time to think. I could be wrong though.

[General Brewster]

How much are they protected by artillery? IMO, in an ideal scenario, (Note that key phrase) the earthworks in NTW would protect from small arms but not heavy artillery. How that would be implemented, I have no idea.

Honestly I think it makes no difference for arty. Perhaps for tanks as they for me seem to not shoot in an angle and might hit the thrench and not kill soldiers behind it.

The arty more shoots in a curve so I think it just shoots over the trench and in it/behind.

[Whukid]

well, for example, in vanilla NTW and ETW, cannon, mortar, and howitzer shells don't kill anyone if they impact the trench. especially in the case of these gabions, the shell would wreak havoc on the poor bastard crouching behind it in reality.

Historically, large artillery shells had the ugly tendency to collapse sections of a trench if they hit within a given proximity, killing all the soldiers in that section. Basically, will that be able to be implemented? If not, it's not a big deal at all, but it's always good to ask

[General Brewster]

I think we will have the killing infect because of the bigger ratio of area that is hit with a TGW shell.
This is a really good thing to test actually. You kinda made me wanting to know it to.

I don't know about damage though. Haave to wait for panzer on that one

[panzerschreck]

protection offered by defences are essentialy for direct hits, for example they will be more protected from rifles shots. But indeed, they will have very little protection in the case of artillery shells that comes from above, if there are in 5.0 small cannons (I don't know, it's a example) that fire in direct line, they will be protected quite efficiently.
An other thing, trenches will be wider than there were in reality in reason of the formations used by the units in total war games (if we do very narrow trenches, there is pathfinding problems with the units), so artillery will have better chances to fall in the middle of a trench than it was in reality.

[PunitorMaximus]

the earthworks in NTW would protect from small arms but not heavy artillery

when the HE grenade hits the gabionade itself the units behind are completely protected from shrapnells and all the other explosion effects.