Do you believe that the White Man has a responsibility to civilise God's people, by whatever means necessary?

[♖The Balkan Sobranie♖]

For centuries the White Man traversed across the globe to explore the darker, more mysterious parts of the map and bring with him law, education, religion, roads, industry, sport, justice and enlightenment. The world we live in today was very much shaped by European pioneers who wanted to build a greater place, but do you think it can ever be justified? Do you believe that colonization and Empires were merely excuses for greed? Is it the responsibility for White Men to project their will on those they view as inferior?

[Squiggle]

The notion of bringing good to someone by force is paradoxical, and is the very basis of the thinking that not only justified the imperialism you spoke of, and all the abuses of it, but the horrors of socialism, communism, the abuses of paternal monarchist states and all the rest. Its the very thing thats justified every excess of Government throughout history.

So no.

[athanaric]

Not all white people are part of Western civilization and not everyone within that civilization is white. Which means the premise is just wrong. Race doesn't equal civilization and neither does skin colour. You could ask just as well: "Does Man have a responsibility to civilize Woman?"... In short: it's nonsensical.

[Border Patrol]

White Man's burden, yo.

[The Unknown General]

The notion of bringing good to someone by force is paradoxical, and is the very basis of the thinking that not only justified the imperialism you spoke of, and all the abuses of it, but the horrors of socialism, communism, the abuses of paternal monarchist states and all the rest. Its the very thing thats justified every excess of Government throughout history.

So no.

For American imperialism and I'm sure about other western countries, it was more about nationalism than race. However, America did play the race card when they begun their imperialist era.

[Hilarion]

The thread title is pretty hilarious. If only there hadn't actually been people who thought that way .

[Dr. Oza]

No.

[The Unknown General]

White people are the devil, case closed (Sarcasm, though we as a race did a lot of .)

[Exarch]

white man's burden whilst taking as payment, all the best resource and mineral and grazing rights, and all of your native pussy as well, whilst them coloured folk get the honour of fighting and dying mostly in the white man's army.

[The Unknown General]

Is it bad to laugh at while guilt? I mean I can't control what my ancestors may or may not have done.

[Exarch]

no, but it is laughable to believe that simply sending in "aid" ie money that gets diffused into corrupt officials' pockets and footy jerseys of losing teams can somehow make all those years of slavery and exploitation alright.
Whilst, of course, forcing those countries to open their markets whilst crippling their local producers.

[Sphere]

5th Amendment

[kellakk]

Definitely not. But while it's true that "the White Man" has caused many, many problems over the past centuries, wrongs that occur now must be judged with a clear and open mind, without any bias towards one group or another. People have the tendency to judge actions based on events that occur in the past, even if these same events are irrelevant to the action taking place. Such prejudices help no one, for prejudices they are.

A good example of this is the Trayvon Martin thing going on at the moment. People are going crazy over the "apparent" guilt of Zimmerman, but without a perfect knowledge of the events that occurred immediately before the shots, it's impossible to make a good judgment on whether Zimmerman is guilty of murder or not. People are making judgments without the full picture.

[basics]

Surely one has to ask what is a white man? I personally have never seen one or a black man for that matter. But if we're talking of the races that have moved this world on more so than others I'm not so sure that the Chinaman can be excluded anymore than the Babylonian can since they established themselves long before the so-called whites did.

And then came the swarthy Greeks who appeared neither one nor the other if I can be bold enough to say so, who when in the ascendency gave this world the foundations for many things that still have that foundational quality even today. I think of philosophy and more importantly maths in its many forms. And, after them came the just as swarthy Roman/Italians who learned and put into practise what the Greeks established.

The White man then was no more than a babble of warlike tribes stretching themselves across the Northern Hemisphere without education yet a preponderous need to flex their weight around. So what made the difference in the years that followed? Does anyone doubt that Christianity played its share because by it we of these races learned to read, write and calculate to such an advantage that eventually we left most of the world behind.

Today China is fast overtaking us again just as the Asian is fast catching up just as Latin America has grasped its potential to utilise its mineral wealth to its advantage. The most cause for concern is darkest Africa which also has vast amounts of minerals yet seems incapable of administering it properly. I presume that the questioner had this in mind when he or she made the question?

If that is the case, do we have a responsibility to them because of recent history? The honest person would say that already we have taken on that responsibility by feeding that continent billions in aid only to see it not reaching the people for whom it was given. Instead their leaders and lackeys prosper whilst their peoples suffer making us the offenders. In this the African has got to get to grips with.

[MathiasOfAthens]

For centuries the White Man traversed across the globe to explore the darker, more mysterious parts of the map and bring with him law, education, religion, roads, industry, sport, justice and enlightenment. The world we live in today was very much shaped by European pioneers who wanted to build a greater place, but do you think it can ever be justified? Do you believe that colonization and Empires were merely excuses for greed? Is it the responsibility for White Men to project their will on those they view as inferior?

Sounds like someone just got to their "White Mans Burden" in their High School history class.

[Phier]

As a white man I see it as my responsibility to vacation in their sunny lands and buy low cost mass produced goods from them.

[The Unknown General]

As a white man I see it as my responsibility to vacation in their sunny lands and buy low cost mass produced goods from them.

This

[Justice and Mercy]

For American imperialism and I'm sure about other western countries, it was more about nationalism than race. However, America did play the race card when they begun their imperialist era.

No, like with most cases of Western Imperialism, it was about TRADE.

In other words, generally speaking the Westerners were fighting the good fight.

We want freedom both for ourselves and for foreigners.

[The Unknown General]

No, like with most cases of Western Imperialism, it was about TRADE.

In other words, generally speaking the Westerners were fighting the good fight.

We want freedom both for ourselves and for foreigners.

I mean't it was an excause for them to do it.

[♖The Balkan Sobranie♖]

Sounds like someone just got to their "White Mans Burden" in their High School history class.

Incorrect for two reasons; one, I do not go to 'High School', I go to a private school in England; and two, I have not been given that poem to study.