Did King Kong Outsource 3.1?

[Conqistador]

Man, first time i tried TATW was with Eriador (one of the most challenging for starters), the campaign was very hard for me, but it was very funny too. I mean, if you can't play the mod because of difficulty and other things, firstly try to seek advice from the "veterans", there's plenty of starting tutorials and there's always people interestd in helping. If even seeking the advices you find the mod to be harder than you expected, then search the mod workshop for tutorials about modding and apply then in TATW to change things you dislike, rather than spamming the forum with "this mod is so hard", "i want my troops to be recruited from turn 1 someone do it for me" -type threads. As Garb said, KK and team made the mod, and as the creators, they have the right to make it at their own taste, it isn't their obligation to make the mod as each person likes.

[Bucle_CT]

Close this thread, please, no sense on keep going :

1. If you experiment bugs go here --> http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=502071
2. If you have suggestions, go here --> http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=502077
3. If you don't like the mod, don't play it, but enough of ranting people who work for free for our entertainment....and to Gaiserix, if your intention isn't ranting choose better the tittle for your thread next time.

[lolIsuck]

I honestly don't see any of your problems

[Bucle_CT]

I honestly don't see any of your problems

Do you honestly see any sense in keep this thread open?

[lolIsuck]

Nope, I don't understand why they didn't lock it after KingKong's comment

[The Holy Pilgrim]

Nope, I don't understand why they didn't lock it after KingKong's comment

Because it's still up for discussion.

If things get too hairy, a local moderator or a moderator will step in

Every member is entitled to their opinions, like it or not. Just because a thread is criticizing the mod (within ToS limits, that is), that does not qualify it for being shut down.

I have massive respect for the TATW team and all that they have done, but those who don't like it should not be hushed for expressing their views, especially if they don't violate the ToS.

And like I said, if things get too rough and people start insulting each other, that's when the thread will be closed.

Keep up the great work, KK and team.

[CannabisMaximus]

Actually I can't understand why now so many people complain about this. Would you rather like to see every illage to be fully developed at turn 150/200?
Anyway, no matter what I do, people will always complain, but personally I think it was the right way to go.

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I totally back you up inhis decision. But I am a fan of long dragged out campaigns.. 500or so turns is my average quitting point in good campaigns... Tho.. I doubt that every tw player likes that. Some may Need a faster Submod so that can have 100turn games or 150.. Not have to fight for 600 turns to make hobbiton a huge bustling city... Everyone likes different things... Good is relative to taste. I like the new additions to mechanics.... I can't spit Orc armies out of conquored elvish lands in two or three turns. And I actually have to bring them in from mordor.. Btw. if anyone has ever played broken crescent and liked it... This new version of third age holds similar frustrations and difficulties when attacking foreign lands

[Beregond]

Because it's still up for discussion.

If things get too hairy, a local moderator or a moderator will step in

Every member is entitled to their opinions, like it or not. Just because a thread is criticizing the mod (within ToS limits, that is), that does not qualify it for being shut down.

I have massive respect for the TATW team and all that they have done, but those who don't like it should not be hushed for expressing their views, especially if they don't violate the ToS.

And like I said, if things get too rough and people start insulting each other, that's when the thread will be closed.

Keep up the great work, KK and team.

AMEN

Of late, there seems to be too much hostile 'don't like - don't play' attitude

Everyone has the right to voice his/her opinions

[King Kong]

..But why would you like to get suggestions and feedback if you cant stand logical critics?

of course I'll listen to critics, this was also the reason to leave the thread open for a while.
I really appreciate every kind of critics and I also really don't mind if someone has a harsh opinion.
Critics are still a very important way to move something forward.

But actually my intention of my reply was just to make it clear that I'm responsible for the OP's complaints and that the gameplay changes have some reasons behind them.
I just wanted to prevent that someone thinks that those changes have been made in a haste or without thinking about them, because the opposite was the case and nothing was outsourced.

Anyway, for the future I'll have something in mind which could also please the people who think the game is too slow paced (I assume that it is the main critic of a part of players).

I guess the thread has served it's purpose well and the points of view and intentions should be clear now. And before the quite friendly discussion ends up in any hostilities, I think it's better to close it now.

But thanks all for your input!