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    Default Re: Would humanity have the right to extinguish alien races? [.Mitch. v Aanker] discussion thread

    Wise quote brother! Beware the Xenos, the Aliens, the Mutants!

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    Default Re: Would humanity have the right to extinguish alien races? [.Mitch. v Aanker] discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Diocle View Post
    Wise quote brother! Beware the Xenos, the Aliens, the Mutants!
    Did the Mechanicum not get all of its technology from a C'tan? Was the human race not created by the Old Ones? Was the Emperor even human?

    Anyway, we already extinguish species here, so why could we not extinguish life elsewhere?

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    Default Re: Would humanity have the right to extinguish alien races? [.Mitch. v Aanker] discussion thread

    Didn't 'Avatar' put this whole issue to rest?

    In other words, yes we should definitely try to exterminate alien races, unless they have flying dragons. And big trees.
    Last edited by Point Blank; February 28, 2012 at 01:34 AM.

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    Default Re: Would humanity have the right to extinguish alien races? [.Mitch. v Aanker] discussion thread

    if we make a game theoretical analysis it is a prisoners dilemma, so, we should at first, if we make a deeper one, we find out its actually an ininetly iterated prisoners dilemma with 100% probability so it will be incredibly harmful to our own survival to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christonikos View Post
    Anyways, since we have the right to destroy our own race, who cares about aliens?
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    1. Well there`s the all encompassing... `Right of Might.` the stronger has the right to do whatever he wants. It works for most people when they know they`re too strong to lose, ie Avatar (oh wait, they did lose).

    2.And then there`s the right of morality... `What you are doing is morally wrong to me, so change or die.` Works often.

    3.Then there`s the Self defence `If we don`t kill them they will kill us`. This might be viable if they really are wanting to kill us. Also works as a lie.

    4.And then there`s the `Live and let live, no one deserves to die just because they exist.` people still have problems with this.

    I am of the last opinion. kind of pointless thread though as we don`t have any Aliens to worry about yet.

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    There are only two rules in this universe:

    1. Weaks are dominated by strongs.

    2. Dead men would remain dead, without hope and future.

    Rest is free for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    There are only two rules in this universe:

    1. Weaks are dominated by strongs.

    2. Dead men would remain dead, without hope and future.

    Rest is free for all.
    1.Does domination make the strongs better?

    2.Where's hope or future in a world where strongs kill weaks?


    Nobody can be strong forever. One day you'll become weak, and you'll be dominated or even killed. Is this the world you want to live in?

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    I am a xenofacist, I say we extinguish any planet that dare oppose the Terran might in the galaxy.
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    I will make it simplistic.

    first case : Aliens can organize themselves into state.
    So let's say if one European country have the right to exterminate the population of USA, Russia, Iran, Somalia or South Korea then yes humanity have the right.

    second case : Aliens can't organize themselves in more advanced way than animals
    So if humanity have the right to exterminate bears, wolves, spider, mosquito or any other animal the same goes with aliens.


    For myself I say let's exterminate each others. Humans animals and aliens alike. Life is so boring and annoying. Lets' have some fun.

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    I always prefer raping to exterminating! Save the virgins for me please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    I always prefer raping to exterminating! Save the virgins for me please!
    Nothing Japanese style please ... we gotta do this the human way, kill the males and leave the women for the Nanking in Space !
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    There is no such thing as right here... You guys actually believe than an extra-solar alien civilization would abide the UN laws?...

    I'd say we nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...

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    Rights are social constructs relative to humanity. In other words: they are delusional. So the question should not be "would humanity have the right...", but rather "would humanity claim the right". Since humanity invented these rights, humanity can apply or withdraw them at will.

    What we objectively do have, however, is free will. Free will to act upon our moral intuition with which every human is gifted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aqd View Post
    1.Does domination make the strongs better?

    2.Where's hope or future in a world where strongs kill weaks?


    Nobody can be strong forever. One day you'll become weak, and you'll be dominated or even killed. Is this the world you want to live in?
    Words of pure wisdom.

    Killing Aliens is stupid in the extreme. We're probably just some upstart barbarians to them, what chance do we have anyways? We're a weak, frail people, divided by Millenia of Warfare. The guys here think that Humanity is All-Powerful. Look at what happened to Rome, it will happen again.

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    Raping Alien females? Holy crap! You guys surpassed Sci-Fi Authors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine View Post
    Words of pure wisdom.

    Killing Aliens is stupid in the extreme. We're probably just some upstart barbarians to them, what chance do we have anyways? We're a weak, frail people, divided by Millenia of Warfare. The guys here think that Humanity is All-Powerful. Look at what happened to Rome, it will happen again.
    What if said aliens are less advanced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatta Optima Maxima View Post
    What if said aliens are less advanced?
    I would say: Derp.

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    It's more likely as could we be capable of doing it? Would the Europeans be able to conquer the native Americans had they were welcomed with automatic rifle fire?
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